i cant travel with a desktop. maybe the new mac pro but i will see about that 🙂
why is it so difficult toget retina "pro" laptop with a decent gpu?
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why is it so difficult toget retina "pro" laptop with a decent gpu?
They can put the nvidia 760M that has on par with 650M at thermal , and 760M is vey decent for gaming too
But that was my point with the Razor. They can put it in a laptop that is even thinner so why not to rMBP? They don't need to go that crazy but it would be preferable to get something on the faster side gtx rather than gt? or 770GT?
That would be quite decent, no?
You know how hot my rMBP gets when anything GPU is required? It becomes a heater especially after the patch to "fix" it 🙁
btw, you all focus on the display which i know is crap but if apple was to do something like that they would put their retina display. The hold up is there for some reason as other haswell laptops are already out. Could it be thunderbolt 2 or IGZO displays? Who knows but they could put a decent GPU.
IF razor can do it then im sure Apple can do 100x better job.
And I do have the current rMBP and yes it has "ok" GPU performance but that is my point. It's just "ok". I would rather have something a bit more powerful so the machine doesn't turn into an oven when something requires some GPU 🙂
IF razor can do it then im sure Apple can do 100x better job.
And I do have the current rMBP and yes it has "ok" GPU performance but that is my point. It's just "ok". I would rather have something a bit more powerful so the machine doesn't turn into an oven when something requires some GPU 🙂
Apple could put a better GPU in the rMBP.
They would have to put in a less powerful CPU (like the Razer)
They would probably have to have a smaller battery to make room for more cooling (like the Razer)
They would have to put cooling vents on the very bottom of the laptop (like the Razer) which isn't as good for using on your lap or on a soft surface that could block airflow.
There would be less battery life because of the smaller battery and increased power usage when the GPU kicks in.
That's a lot of tradeoffs. Those tradeoffs make perfect sense for a company like Razer that is focused specifically on customers who want a gaming laptop. They don't make very much sense when you're trying to create just a few models of laptop that appeal to a very wide consumer and professional user base like Apple is.
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TDP is the machine's intended heat dissipation ability. The Retina MacBook Pro's thinness, shared heat pipes (the GPU and CPU share the same heat pipe, complicating matters), and limited power AC adaptor make it difficult to make it more powerful.
1) Being thin w/long battery life means that half the space in the rMBP is battery. Since Li-On batteries cannot be packed more densely, it's a pure compromise between battery capacity and cooling space. Also, just being thin makes the laptop run hotter.
2) The MacBook's design is kinda stupid, at least from a cooling perspective. There's a set of heat pipes that connect the CPU and GPU, and lead out to the fans. This conducts heat away from the core components and out of the computer, but it also allows significant inter-component heating. For example, running Furmark (zero CPU usage, maximum GPU torture usage) would bump my 2011 MacBook's GPU to 99C and my CPU to 85C. The design itself is not conducive to cooling powerful components, especially not power-draining GPUs.
3) Power consumption is often overlooked. While an extreme example, the NVIDIA GTX 780M is the fastest mobile graphics chip in the world -and has a power consumption (and TDP) to match. 100W. The chip in the current MacBooks, the GT650M, consumes (and dissipates) 45W. The next true step up, the GTX 670M, consumes 75W (the GTX 660M consumes 50W, but is just a higher clocked GT650M). Seeing the problem here? Not only can the current cooler not dissipate this much heat, the wall adaptor tops out at 85W.
1) Being thin w/long battery life means that half the space in the rMBP is battery. Since Li-On batteries cannot be packed more densely, it's a pure compromise between battery capacity and cooling space. Also, just being thin makes the laptop run hotter.
2) The MacBook's design is kinda stupid, at least from a cooling perspective. There's a set of heat pipes that connect the CPU and GPU, and lead out to the fans. This conducts heat away from the core components and out of the computer, but it also allows significant inter-component heating. For example, running Furmark (zero CPU usage, maximum GPU torture usage) would bump my 2011 MacBook's GPU to 99C and my CPU to 85C. The design itself is not conducive to cooling powerful components, especially not power-draining GPUs.
3) Power consumption is often overlooked. While an extreme example, the NVIDIA GTX 780M is the fastest mobile graphics chip in the world -and has a power consumption (and TDP) to match. 100W. The chip in the current MacBooks, the GT650M, consumes (and dissipates) 45W. The next true step up, the GTX 670M, consumes 75W (the GTX 660M consumes 50W, but is just a higher clocked GT650M). Seeing the problem here? Not only can the current cooler not dissipate this much heat, the wall adaptor tops out at 85W.