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Just tell her you won't give her any tech support when she doesn't know how to do something on MS Windows.
 
Can I ask a question and not sound like a totaly jerk? Why does everyone refer to it as AN Hp? Hewlett Packard definitely starts with a consonant, wouldn't it be A Hp? Just wondering.
 
Can I ask a question and not sound like a totaly jerk? Why does everyone refer to it as AN Hp? Hewlett Packard definitely starts with a consonant, wouldn't it be A Hp? Just wondering.

I'm guilty of that as it happens subconsciencly.

There is times when you use an instead of A with an h. Mostly when using a silent h. an herb, an hour, an honarable. When typing it out or even saying it, you're pronouncing the 'H" - which in English is spelled 'aitch'.

Either way, you're right - but the 'an' just flows out easily and I don't sit back and grammar/spell proof all my posts :)
 
Can I ask a question and not sound like a totaly jerk? Why does everyone refer to it as AN Hp? Hewlett Packard definitely starts with a consonant, wouldn't it be A Hp? Just wondering.

It depends on whether you're pronouncing it in your head as "an HP" or "a Hewlett Packard". If you do the former, you go with "an". It's the same reason I refer to "an MBP" vs. "a MBP".
 
She wants to use AutoCAD and 3-d Studio Max as her primary applications which are Windows only and you blame her for not buying a mac?

I don't see the problem: would you want to dual-boot everytime you want to check your mail?

Didn't think so...

Eventually she'll be using the windows partition more and more and she'll be running around with a mac primarily booted in windows, paid a premium for the design only and not the OS (which she would have to pay extra for as well).

Not worth it. She made the right choice.
 
If the HP has equal or better stats (processor, memory, drivespace, graphics) than the MBP, costs a grand less, and she's used to XP/Vista, then it would be the better deal for her. It sounds like she's quite fine with Windows, having used the HP laptop throughout school, and I wouldn't recommend switching to an entirely different operating system in her fourth year of graduate study. A good computer stays out of your way without drawing attention to itself; if she wants the HP and doesn't want the MBP, I'd trust her judgement, since she's the one who'll have to use the computer for 40 hours a week.
This is good advice. Simply put, switching to a new OS and having to deal with grad school is more work than it is worth. Not to mention, not everyone who runs a mac has issues with windows. I know I didn't. I think you need to let her buy what she wants and not stress about what you can do about it. There will be many things in life that your sister will do that you could stress about, an eletronic purchase shouldn't be one of them.
 
I just hope she got Windows XP on that laptop. :D

HP and Dell offer good deals on their Windows laptops. It'd be a good idea to keep your sister on a familiar platform for the time being to get all that work done. No sense on trying to make entirely new workflow for all those hours spent.
 
It depends on whether you're pronouncing it in your head as "an HP" or "a Hewlett Packard". If you do the former, you go with "an". It's the same reason I refer to "an MBP" vs. "a MBP".

Agreed, this is the correct way in terms of grammar.
 
Tell her to consider a Thinkpad. Great quality and prices are much cheaper these days - heck, I might buy one.
 
Tell her to consider a Thinkpad. Great quality and prices are much cheaper these days - heck, I might buy one.
thinkpad = :eek: :mad:
hp = quite (some very) nice
apple = very nice
personal opinion, but the thinkpads are b*tt-ugly, and architecture is design based, so a horribly designed laptop wont look great to others...
 
Tell her to consider a Thinkpad. Great quality and prices are much cheaper these days - heck, I might buy one.

Thinkpads aren't built by IBM any more. They might carry the IBM name still, but they're not made by them.

Anyway, to the OP, your sister made the right choice. Whats the point of her buying a Mac when shes going to be spending 40 or so hours a week in Windows?

HP does make nice machines. I will admit, it took me a couple of HPs to finally get one thats held up. Once it proved it wasn't going to die on me, I've been "stressing" it by playing games in my free time and it's held up beautifully.

It might be better for her to look at one of HP's business notebooks though. They generally come with workstation GPUs and MUCH better standard warranties than their consumer line or Apple offers. Most of them have standard 3 year warranties and you can pay extra for on-site support and such. Plus they're built better than the consumer line and even the MacBook Pro.
 
The laptop my work IT people issued me (which doesn't get too much use by the way, since I prefer my Macs) is an HP-Compaq nx9240. Its a very nice machine... essentially identical specs to the previous generation 17" MacBook Pro (2.16GHz Core 2 Duo, 100GB 7200 RPM drive, 256MB Radeon X1600 video).

The thing I most don't like about it is the brightness (or lack thereof) of the screen. Its a 17" 1680x1050 display, and while its sharp and clear, its too dim even at its maximum setting and with the ambient light sensor off.

The machine is quite solidly built - feels like a tank compared to HP's consumer line.

But the screen is too dim. And its 50% heavier than an otherwise identical 17" MacBook Pro.
 
Is is too late to sell or swap your sister to a family upset with their sister getting a MacBook?
 
I think the OP's sister has made the right choice. She's in school right now and needs two major Windows programs. Her parents are giving her a large window of opportunity as to which machine she wants but when you are in the middle of school and know nothing about Mac OS X and the programs she needs don't run on it there's nothing wrong with her getting an HP notebook at this time. I would recommend the same thing to my friends if they were in this predicament.

She seems to have an interest in the Mac OS system and it's computers so after school is finished maybe she could sell her HP in favor of a Mac but it's too risky right now to start something new that will cost considerably more (since you have to buy a copy of Windows as well) when she could get a Windows machine to do it for less.

Think about if you were on a tight work schedule and there were two family cars in the driveway, one was a stick shift and one was an automatic and you know nothing about driving the stick then you choose the path of least resistance and that would be the automatic.
 
Thinkpads aren't built by IBM any more. They might carry the IBM name still, but they're not made by them.

I never said they were.

All I'm saying is that when the T61 is now hovering at $940 from Lenovo's site, it's hard not to consider...
 
Can I ask a question and not sound like a totaly jerk? Why does everyone refer to it as AN Hp? Hewlett Packard definitely starts with a consonant, wouldn't it be A Hp? Just wondering.

I have no clue. I thought it was HP, not Hp. I also forgot to mention that I own stock in HP. Even though I do, I have a mac :D. (just as a cautionary measure)

Tell her to consider a Thinkpad. Great quality and prices are much cheaper these days - heck, I might buy one.

Agreed, they are well made laptops. Though that is just the Thinkpads, I do not know about the other Lenovo designs.
 
I just hope she got Windows XP on that laptop. :D

HP and Dell offer good deals on their Windows laptops. It'd be a good idea to keep your sister on a familiar platform for the time being to get all that work done. No sense on trying to make entirely new workflow for all those hours spent.

That's a good point because if she is using vista, there might be a lot of broken computer monitors from the frustration.
 
It depends on whether you're pronouncing it in your head as "an HP" or "a Hewlett Packard". If you do the former, you go with "an". It's the same reason I refer to "an MBP" vs. "a MBP".

But MBP is just a shortcut commonly used on MacRumors because people are too lazy to write MacBook Pro. I would write "a MBP" because I pronounce it as "a Mac Book Pro", not "an emm-bee-pee".
 
I never said they were.

All I'm saying is that when the T61 is now hovering at $940 from Lenovo's site, it's hard not to consider...

I came close to buying one yesterday. If you do, be sure to go to dealigg.com first to get the weekly coupon. That shaves another $100 off. Also, for the next few days, you can upgrade from a 2ghz to a 2.4ghz processor for 9.95 when configuring. It's nuts.
 
depend upon which HP

If your sister gets a business class hp, she will have english speaking tech support, excellent service, and a solid computer (these have metal LCD covers, composite palm rests, and are certified for CAD. If she gets a dvxxx, then good luck with Indian support.

The HP business class computers, like the NC8430, are solid, well made machines. They have a track pad and a track stick, and have much of the same features as the mbp. They are not cheap, and I don't think you will find a new one at $1800.

Since she used AutoCAD (and most likely other win only software, like minitab and other statistical s/w), she is pretty much limited to a true win xp/vista machine. Leopard can run the s/w, but often not as well as a dedicated machine (I have since stopped trying to use boot camp, fussion, or parallels to run my windows specific s/w - too many issues).

So, perhaps that is her only route, but hopefully she gets an NC or NW HP rather than the consumer dv series.

Wayne
 
That's a good point because if she is using vista, there might be a lot of broken computer monitors from the frustration.

Though its more towards superfetch being an extreme memory hog, when you have only 2 gigs of ram total. I have vista on my desktop, and it seems to work the best with 4 gigs :(. Lets just say that many parts of the guts of vista are a welcomed change (match more towards how other operating systems like linux work, in a way), but there are many things lacking with vista. For most people, XP should work...
 
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