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Can the new Penryn Macbook Pro's run Tiger?
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Why go through the trouble of a workaround. Just use the proper OS and things will work.
Why go through the trouble of a workaround. Just use the proper OS and things will work.
Well, I am doing it for the fun of it and I would like to have Tiger on my MacBook Pro. And why not? I do it on an external HD, what do I lose from that? Nothing. What do I gain? Lots.
The big problem seems to be with just the sound not working on newer machines running tiger as is the case here also. http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os-x-operating-system/135510-installing-tiger-new-imacs.html I don't know of anyone on the forums who has successfully got a system fully functional and working as of yet, quote me if i'm wrong. Looks like no tiger for me unfortunately until there's a fix for the sound.
Unfortunately not. Well, not without playing around with it (VMware Fusion 2 ß).
Whenever I install by using the install package, it fails near the end, something to do with the Volumes folder missing or something. I haven't tried installing it by rebooting yet, but so far, when I restored the image I made of the disc (to get MacBookPro4,1 on it), onto a hard drive, it keeps rebooting after boot. Ideas?
UPDATE: I have tried installing the OS as a stripped down system, and at the point of it saying "About a minute" left, it takes ages. I know this is common, but there is no activity from the DVD or the external HD. It then takes ages to switch into the next two phases of "Finishing Installation". After that, it tells me I need to reinsert "Mac OS X Install Disc 1". It is already in there. If I eject it and return it, it would tell me that the disc is unreadable. The dmg I made as a backup does not mount unless I reboot, and any other disk images (no matter what format they are). Any ideas anyone?.
UPDATE: I have tried installing the OS as a stripped down system, and at the point of it saying "About a minute" left, it takes ages. I know this is common, but there is no activity from the DVD or the external HD. It then takes ages to switch into the next two phases of "Finishing Installation". After that, it tells me I need to reinsert "Mac OS X Install Disc 1". It is already in there. If I eject it and return it, it would tell me that the disc is unreadable. The dmg I made as a backup does not mount unless I reboot, and any other disk images (no matter what format they are). Any ideas anyone?.
Okay, I installed Tiger onto an external HD, but upon boot, it reboots. Any ideas? I really want Tiger.
-AnonMac50
UPDATE: Okay, so I installed 10.4.11 update to the external HD in Leopard. Upon booting into Tiger, it Kernel Panics. Here is the report for it.
-AnonMac50
UPDATE: Okay, so I installed 10.4.11 update to the external HD in Leopard. Upon booting into Tiger, it Kernel Panics. Here is the report for it.
Code:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 100555 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 5
Anonymous UUID: F6F72D44-2FF9-4A84-938B-4A1CCBB3613C
Sat May 1 23:28:34 2010
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A49CB): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x00000098, CR3: 0x00b92000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x00000000, ECX: 0x03ab6804, EDX: 0x0414ea24
CR2: 0x00000098, EBP: 0x250ab8f8, ESI: 0xffffffff, EDI: 0x250ab954
EFL: 0x00210202, EIP: 0x3c613ff2, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x012c0010
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x250ab6a8 : 0x128d0d (0x3cc65c 0x250ab6cc 0x131f95 0x0)
0x250ab6e8 : 0x1a49cb (0x3d2a94 0x1 0xe 0x3d22b8)
0x250ab7f8 : 0x19b3a4 (0x250ab810 0x414e804 0x250ab828 0x3c613bbf)
0x250ab8f8 : 0x3c600fbf (0x3ab6804 0x3c7b3700 0x0 0x250ab98c)
0x250ab938 : 0x3c5d0794 (0x0 0x250ab954 0x0 0x3dff1c8)
0x250ab998 : 0x3c5d2982 (0x3c7b3700 0x0 0x3c7c5000 0x3b5f7000)
0x250abb38 : 0x3c5cabbb (0x0 0x4b09d0 0x93000001 0x4d7c5000)
0x250abb88 : 0x3c5cbd6e (0x3838c00 0x39d1180 0x0 0x4)
0x250abbd8 : 0x3c5cbe80 (0x3838c00 0x3ec7300 0x3838c00 0x1)
0x250abc18 : 0x3519c875 (0x3838c00 0x1 0x0 0x0)
0x250abc78 : 0x3519606b (0x3838c00 0x5 0x5 0x3838c00)
0x250abc98 : 0x38c991 (0x3838c00 0x36eb370 0x36eb370 0x0)
0x250abce8 : 0x3b2df6 (0x3838c00 0x36eb370 0x36eb370 0x0)
0x250abd48 : 0x18d6fd (0x3838c00 0x36eb370 0x0 0x0)
0x250abdb8 : 0x12b4ee (0x38ae480 0x3f80198 0x250abdf8 0x11e042)
0x250abdf8 : 0x124b17 (0x38ae400 0x36b7658 0x4024c80 0x0) Backtrace continues...
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.NVDAResman(4.5.8)@0x3c5c9000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.2)@0x35260000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.8)@0x3518e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.4.8)@0x351a9000
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.4.8)@0x3518e000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.2)@0x35260000
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386That looks like problems with display drivers (wrong/missing). I really don't know why, since I got my Tiger installation up and running just by updating to 10.4.11.
It also seems to freeze at the point of starting loginwindow.app (the part that starts up, where you get the progress bar saying Starting Mac OS X or something). It is a MacBookDisc. I will try installing the MacBook Pro Software update 1.0 or 1.1 (the ones that required OS 10.4.9 as minimum), and I'll go from there. It doesn't want me to install, as my mac is a MacBookPro4,1 and the update is for the MacBookPro3,1. Oh well, I can still do it, I am sure I'll find a way.
I have read many times that the MacBook Disc kernel panics the computer. Do you know of a way to fix it? What disc did you use?
-AnonMac50
UPDATE: OK, I installed the MBP update using Pacifist, and the other updates normally (I edited the .dist file). The other updates were security updates and Safari updates. Reboot into Tiger, the gear spun longer. Then it worked. There was a 1440x900 res, but the cursor shadows weren't there. It detected my WLAN connection, but I didn't connect. I logged in, then installed the MBP update normal, but, after the reboot, it happened. Kernel Panic. Oh well, I'll keep trying.
How to install Tiger on an Early 2008 PowerBook C2D using MacBook disc.
SUCCESS!! First, you need to make an image of the disc. Edit it so that it allows installation on a MacBookPro4,1. Then Install the package in Leopard, not Snow Leopard. A MacBookPro4,1 comes with Leopard originally, so you can get Leopard off there. Download Pacifist, then install the MacBook Pro Update 1.1 (the old one which requires 10.4.9 or higher instead of the one that require 10.5.2 or higher) with Pacifist. Then update to 10.4.11 (Intel). Reboot into Tiger. If you want to connect to the internet whenever you want, then don't install the Security Update.
UPDATE: OK, install the updates, just make sure they are before the first boot into Tiger. Otherwise, too late.
-AnonMac50
SUCCESS!! First, you need to make an image of the disc. Edit it so that it allows installation on a MacBookPro4,1. Then Install the package in Leopard, not Snow Leopard. A MacBookPro4,1 comes with Leopard originally, so you can get Leopard off there. Download Pacifist, then install the MacBook Pro Update 1.1 (the old one which requires 10.4.9 or higher instead of the one that require 10.5.2 or higher) with Pacifist. Then update to 10.4.11 (Intel). Reboot into Tiger. If you want to connect to the internet whenever you want, then don't install the Security Update.
UPDATE: OK, install the updates, just make sure they are before the first boot into Tiger. Otherwise, too late.
-AnonMac50
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Great job. What MacBook disc did you use (OS version, MacBookX,X)? Does Bluetooth fully work (can be turned off)? What about other things like trackpad?
I used a MacBook2,1 disc. Bluetooth works perfect. The trackpad doesn't, it thinks it's a USB mouse. The reason is the hardware change to support multi-touch gestures. Keyboard doesn't fully work, but it is fixable.
Note, the Internet does not work after reboot or shutdown, no matter what. The rest works fine.
EDIT: Could you upload your Tiger network driver or something? Which Tiger disc did you use? How do I fix the networking issue? Thanks.
It's surprising the amount of people reverting to an old OS. I have had nothing but positive experiences every time I upgrade the OS. What is the purpose for going backwards?
Every Mac does that. Losing the internet connection while it sleep, as only the RAM is powered. So why should it be connected to the internet anyway?
I know that, as it always disconnects my IM software when it goes to sleep. But I meant that when I put it to sleep for a few hours, after waking it up, it didn't connect, it couldn't even find any networks. Previously it would work after sleep. Still, I think it is because of incorrect network drivers, as I used a MacBook2,1 disc instead of a MacBookPro3,1 disc. If I find one, I'll try it.
-AnonMac50
OK, so, the machine probably can run an OS older than 10.4.9. Because, I know it can boot the same OSes that the previous MacBook Pro can. I just installed Tiger (for the millionth time) and instead of installing 10.4.11 I tried 10.4.10. No go, it needs 10.4.11. Oh well.
I know this is an OLD thread, but I wanted to say, I have Tiger working perfect now. I have an external drive with 4 partitions (one for each OS X release since and including Tiger). I use to test apps I make among other things.
OK, on how to do it...
I used a MacBook2,1 disc.
I am using a MacBook4,1 to install, as that still has Leopard on it. This won't work on Snow Leopard or Lion. First, the partition to be installed on has to have the owners not ignored THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!. Then, inserted the MacBook2,1 disc, and made an image of it. I modified it by changing the OSInstall.dist (located inside OSInstall.mpkg) to allow installing on a MacBook4,1. I then launched the OSInstall package, and got it to install on the Tiger partition I created. I unchecked all option, so only the essentials were being installed. Once installed, I downloaded the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.2 from Apple's site. It's designed for the MacBookPro3,1 but I got it because that was the only way to get Tiger to run on the computer (this is a graphics update, and without it, the OS would always KP). I used Pacifist to install it. Then I got 10.4.11 Combo for Intel to install onto the partition. Once all was installed, I then copied "AppleUSBTopCase.kext" from Leopard and installed it to Tiger. I repaired permissions, ejected the drive, and plugged it in to the MacBookPro4,1. AppleUSBTopCase allows the keyboard to be recognized correctly. Otherwise, it would not see it as a the "short" keyboard it is, and won't recognize the function keys. I booted the OS on my MacBook Pro (everything working nicely so far except the trackpad, as it is seen as a one button mouse, and gestures don't work (not even scrolling, tapping, or secondary clicking). I decided to connect to a network using WiFi. When I reached the Desktop, the Airport icon showed it as not configured. Opening network preferences showed it as "Built-in Ethernet". To fix it, first I installed the Airport Extreme Update for Tiger 2008-002 (not sure if it is needed), restarted, then I went to /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration. I opened NetworkInterfaces.plist and changed "IOInteraceUnit" from "0" to "1". I also deleted AppleAirport2.kext, Extensions.mkext, Extensions.kextcache. Once that was done, the Airport icon stilled said non configured, but opening Newtork preferences, it showed, that a new network port was detected, and it was Airport. I clicked OK, and clicked Apply Now. Airport then started working.
That's about it. It now works perfect minus multitouch. I'm working on that though.
AnonMac50
OK, on how to do it...
I used a MacBook2,1 disc.
I am using a MacBook4,1 to install, as that still has Leopard on it. This won't work on Snow Leopard or Lion. First, the partition to be installed on has to have the owners not ignored THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!. Then, inserted the MacBook2,1 disc, and made an image of it. I modified it by changing the OSInstall.dist (located inside OSInstall.mpkg) to allow installing on a MacBook4,1. I then launched the OSInstall package, and got it to install on the Tiger partition I created. I unchecked all option, so only the essentials were being installed. Once installed, I downloaded the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.2 from Apple's site. It's designed for the MacBookPro3,1 but I got it because that was the only way to get Tiger to run on the computer (this is a graphics update, and without it, the OS would always KP). I used Pacifist to install it. Then I got 10.4.11 Combo for Intel to install onto the partition. Once all was installed, I then copied "AppleUSBTopCase.kext" from Leopard and installed it to Tiger. I repaired permissions, ejected the drive, and plugged it in to the MacBookPro4,1. AppleUSBTopCase allows the keyboard to be recognized correctly. Otherwise, it would not see it as a the "short" keyboard it is, and won't recognize the function keys. I booted the OS on my MacBook Pro (everything working nicely so far except the trackpad, as it is seen as a one button mouse, and gestures don't work (not even scrolling, tapping, or secondary clicking). I decided to connect to a network using WiFi. When I reached the Desktop, the Airport icon showed it as not configured. Opening network preferences showed it as "Built-in Ethernet". To fix it, first I installed the Airport Extreme Update for Tiger 2008-002 (not sure if it is needed), restarted, then I went to /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration. I opened NetworkInterfaces.plist and changed "IOInteraceUnit" from "0" to "1". I also deleted AppleAirport2.kext, Extensions.mkext, Extensions.kextcache. Once that was done, the Airport icon stilled said non configured, but opening Newtork preferences, it showed, that a new network port was detected, and it was Airport. I clicked OK, and clicked Apply Now. Airport then started working.
That's about it. It now works perfect minus multitouch. I'm working on that though.
AnonMac50
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thanks so much anonmac
i have tiger working on my imac 2008 ! for the first time ever since i bought it i have wanted this since 2008
the drive wasnt seen as a bootable system untill i applied the 10.4.11 combo intel updater!!
amazing..
i have tiger working on my imac 2008 ! for the first time ever since i bought it i have wanted this since 2008
the drive wasnt seen as a bootable system untill i applied the 10.4.11 combo intel updater!!
amazing..