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Can we wear it in the shower?

Julien said:
As I have said before when I come in from doing extreme trail running I'm dirty and sweaty. I can just hop in the shower and my watch is also cleaned.
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Hmm. Still don't understand. When I get home from a long run and hop in the shower I definitely want all sweaty materials off me ASAP, including my watch squeezing my now blood engorged wrist and my chest strap.

And your watch might get cleaned but the skin beneath your watch won't, at least well. When I take a shower cleaning me takes priority.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
Hmm. Still don't understand. When I get home from a long run and hop in the shower I definitely want all sweaty materials off me ASAP, including my watch squeezing my now blood engorged wrist and my chest strap.

And your watch might get cleaned but the skin beneath your watch won't, at least well. When I take a shower cleaning me takes priority.
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Um, take it off after it gets cleaned in the shower while still in it?
 
It is water resistant. So yes it is safe. Going for a dive in the ocean however is not recommended and is unsafe.
 
Julien said:
IPx7 will cover everything below and IPx6 will cover a shower. Also it would be conservatively rated because of the absolute numbers Apple will sell. Since Apple is giving a XPx7 waterproof rating they could not and WILL NOT denied a water ingress claim.
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Sorry, but, you are wrong. This is true for the first number which apple has left unspecified (X) but not true for the second numeral. In the case of the second numeral, it's true up to 6, but, not for 7 or 8. I quote the IEC standard itself:

Up to and including second characteristic numeral 6, the designation implies compliance also with the requirements for all lower characteristic numerals.

However, the tests establishing compliance with any one of the lower degrees of protection need not necessarily be carried out provided that these test obviously would be met if applied.

An enclosure designated with second characteristic numeral 7 or 8 only is considered unsuitable for exposure to water jets (designated by second characteristic numeral 5 or 6) and need not comply with requirements for numeral 5 or 6 unless it is dual coded.
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Apple Watch is not dual coded.

And besides the specification, this information is indicated in numerous eletronic engineering guides from various sources. So sorry, IPX7 doesn't mean anything for "water jets."

I'll still shower with it on, though. I reiterate my position that Tim Cook's remarks on the matter are more meaningful than the IP designation.
 
Does the AppleCare cover water damage????

And I really really really really hope that it is safe to use it in the shower because I listen to music in the shower every morning and the thing I hate the most is having to dry one of my hands to change music and crunch down to the little table that I place near my shower everyday to change music

Also being able to change music when I will be in my pool this summer would be amazing!!!!!
 
bbeagle said:
AppleCare + covers water damage....

but you're limited to 2 incidents and have to pay the 'deductible fee' of around $150.

So it's worth it to be careful - even with AppleCare +
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150$!!!!!!!!??!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What?!?? It's 80 for iPhone...why would it be more for the watch? (Which is less expensive)

Where did you get that 150 figure??
I'm definitely not buy an AppleCare if the fee is 150
 
ByteTheBooty said:
150$!!!!!!!!??!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What?!?? It's 80 for iPhone...why would it be more for the watch? (Which is less expensive)

Where did you get that 150 figure??
I'm definitely not buy an AppleCare if the fee is 150
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Calm down. That figure is a fabrication. Apple hasn't listed fees for the Apple Watch AppleCare+ yet.

That said, the cost will be based on what it costs to repair/replace the watch, not what the watch itself costs. After all, you can buy one for $17,000 :)

I would guess something in the range of $49-99 USD.
 
ByteTheBooty said:
150$!!!!!!!!??!!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What?!?? It's 80 for iPhone...why would it be more for the watch? (Which is less expensive)

Where did you get that 150 figure??
I'm definitely not buy an AppleCare if the fee is 150
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I said 'about' - I don't know what the price will be yet. That's my guess. Maybe it will be $80 like the iPhone - I don't know.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
You wrote around $150. Please refrain from spreading false information.
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Nobody knows whether this is false information or not. This is my guess, I could be wrong. I could be right.

I thought the Apple Watch Edition would be $1799 - and I was wrong. I was not 'spreading false information' then either.
 
Anytime I bring in my iPhone to the genius bar one of the first things they look for is water damage. I even had them tell me they wouldn't replace my phone once because they found what they claim was mold in the charging port and he said it must've been from water damage (looked like pocket lint to me). I hadn't gotten it wet ever unless it was from condensation or normal humidity.

That being said I think I'll wear my pebble for shower time and avoid the risk all together. I'm planning on getting the link band and even if I pick up a sport band as well I doubt I'll wanna swap it on and off every time I take a shower anyway.
 
papa8706 said:
Anytime I bring in my iPhone to the genius bar one of the first things they look for is water damage.....
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The iPhone does not have waterproof rating. The :apple:Watch does have an advertised waterproof rating of IPx7, so Apple will never deny any warranty claim of water damage.

Add to that: Almost no one here will ever experience any water damage.
 
Julien said:
The iPhone does not have waterproof rating. The :apple:Watch does have an advertised waterproof rating of IPx7, so Apple will never deny any warranty claim of water damage.

Add to that: Almost no one here will ever have any water damage.
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Bet you they will if you tell them you went scuba diving with it.
 
Julien said:
The iPhone does not have waterproof rating. The :apple:Watch does have an advertised waterproof rating of IPx7, so Apple will never deny any warranty claim of water damage.

Add to that: Almost no one here will ever experience any water damage.
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Good point. It'll be interesting to see how they handle these issues.

The problem is who is to say they won't give someone a hard time and claim they must've went swimming when they really just took a shower. I wouldn't want to risk my investment but I think showering would probably be low risk from what I've read.
 
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Julien said:
....and what would be the number of :apple:Watch users that go scuba diving and then claim warranty by actually admitting they went scuba diving?:eek: 1 in 10,000,000 maybe.
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Or go swimming deeper than 1m for more than 30 min. Perhaps you should be more careful with your wording in stating that Apple won't ever deny a water ingress claim.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Or go swimming deeper than 1m for more than 30 min. Perhaps you should be more careful with your wording in stating that Apple won't ever deny a water ingress claim.
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There is no 'definitive" information, we are all voicing our opinions just like you were about the your "two band" interpretation on the other thread
 
papa8706 said:
There is no 'definitive" information, we are all voicing our opinions just like you were about the your "two band" interpretation on the other thread
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Oh, yes, the IPx7 water resistance rating is based on a controlled test and is definitive information.
 
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JayLenochiniMac said:
Or go swimming deeper than 1m for more than 30 min. Perhaps you should be more careful with your wording in stating that Apple won't ever deny a water ingress claim.
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So you believe Apple will have some type of questionnaire that must be completed explaining what you were doing when water damage occurred? Unlike the iPhone, water damaged :apple:Watches will be such a super small percentage of warranty claims to make it a non issue to just replace in the rare event it does happen.

Can you provide any instances of a company offering a waterproof rating on a watch and then denying a water damage warranty claim? I know Garmin replaced at least 2 IPx7 watches that were water damaged, no questions asked (at least this was posted on the Garmin forum).

Also transducer failure will likely happen well before any water ingress.
 
Julien said:
So you believe Apple will have some type of questionnaire that must be completed explaining what you were doing when water damage occurred? Unlike the iPhone, water damaged :apple:Watches will be such a super small percentage of warranty claims to make it a non issue to just replace in the rare event it does happen.

Can you provide any instances of a company offering a waterproof rating on a watch and then denying a water damage warranty claim? I know Garmin replaced at least 2 IPx7 watches that were water damaged, no questions asked (at least this was posted on the Garmin forum).

Also transducer failure will likely happen well before any water ingress.
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There's a big difference between "no questions asked" and informing them you went scuba diving with your IPx7 watch.

You think they'll be more than happy to replace your scratched up iPhone for $79 if you inform them you deliberately damaged it by throwing it on the cement just to be able to swap it out?
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Oh, yes, the IPx7 water resistance rating is based on a controlled test and is definitive information.
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I never denied the resistance rating but it is less than impressive and there's no definitive information on how Apple will handle water damage when people jump in the pool or shower.
 
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Yeah, I have never worn any watch in the shower, even waterproof ones I have owned. IPX7 is pretty good though. It will probably survive a quick drop in the sink or toilet.
 
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