I'm working on my Italian passport right now trying to get into Europe and make some money.....I would love to move to the U.K. and get drunk everyday..
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Canadian/American Immigration - 18 Yr Old
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TIme is all it takes to get into Canada
If you don't have a company or spouse/common law partner sponsering you...you will be applying as an "independant" and you should start NOW...
I've heard it can take up to two years for that to go through (for independants)
THe odds of you being rejected are slim to none, it just takes a long time..
I sponsered my Girlfriend, as a common law partner, and it took 10 months...
SO, ya...time is what you need...so apply now, go to school, travel around...enjoy being a teenager..and by the time you've done all the fun stuff you should be eligible for your independant Canadian Residency.
You will get NO help from anyone in Canada unless you get a lawyer...when we did the process they even shut down the 1-800 number to call to get info..so there's nothing as far a resources..eveyone will just tell you to go that .gov website...
So, print out the applications, fill em out...do the "checklist" send it in...and then hang out for two years or so...
Good luck..
If you don't have a company or spouse/common law partner sponsering you...you will be applying as an "independant" and you should start NOW...
I've heard it can take up to two years for that to go through (for independants)
THe odds of you being rejected are slim to none, it just takes a long time..
I sponsered my Girlfriend, as a common law partner, and it took 10 months...
SO, ya...time is what you need...so apply now, go to school, travel around...enjoy being a teenager..and by the time you've done all the fun stuff you should be eligible for your independant Canadian Residency.
You will get NO help from anyone in Canada unless you get a lawyer...when we did the process they even shut down the 1-800 number to call to get info..so there's nothing as far a resources..eveyone will just tell you to go that .gov website...
So, print out the applications, fill em out...do the "checklist" send it in...and then hang out for two years or so...
Good luck..
Danksi said:Bare in mind immigration lawyers cannot increase the speed of your application. They simply work with you to make sure your application is complete. If they're promising a faster response, they're generally fibbing.
Speak to the help desk, tell them everything and see what they suggest. I was all for the skiller-worker option until I mentioned my Canadian partner and our UK-born daughter. They were like, what are you thinking, go Family Class... they were very helpful.
It could be years of student visa this and work permit that, before you end up with permanent residency and finally Canadian Citizenship though. At least you'll be in Canada, with any luck. They're generally a nice bunch here
Thanks very much for all your help - you've been great.
I do hope it works out though.. I would love to come and live over there, without having to marry someone! If not, where else am I gonna go, suggestions suggestions
lol mwhahahah! I think all this Canada business is sending me insane..
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2nyRiggz said:I'm working on my Italian passport right now trying to get into Europe and make some money.....I would love to move to the U.K. and get drunk everyday..
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Maybe we can work something out? lol
quigleybc said:
Well, I haven't seen anything about an ''independant''.
The choices I have are:
Student
Work Permit
and thats off that stupid websit you visit. You ring all the numbers, they direct you to the website. You go to the website, you can't find anything out.
Can you suggest any Lawyers? Maybe the one you used?
I'm over the moon if all I have to do is apply, and wait 2 years, thats, PERFECT! If thats true, I'm gonna be forever in your debt!
CanadaRAM said:
Thanks very much
Have you heard of anyone thats used these?
I read somewhere that people charge thousands of dollars, but its a scam. Just want to make sure I dont go blowing a chunk of that £10K now
That's the firm my friend used, like you asked for...josh.thomas said:Thanks very much
Have you heard of anyone thats used these?
I read somewhere that people charge thousands of dollars, but its a scam. Just want to make sure I dont go blowing a chunk of that £10K now
josh.thomas said:Maybe we can work something out? lol
Sure take your pick...America, Bahamas, Italy...I'm fond of the Bahamian one.
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All the trouble you're going to have to go to to immigrate to Canada and here I am with 7 grown children, all with Canadian citizenship, and not one of them has shown any inclination to live there.
All of them want to live right here, won't even consider moving away from our village.
All of them want to live right here, won't even consider moving away from our village.
josh.thomas said:What would you suggest to make me a Perma. Red. of Canada? I don't want to pick up my life, only to be sent back home.
and snipping from the next post
What does this mean? ''status progession"? overkill?
First off I'm not as well informed as you might think I am
I haven't worked at the border for more than 5 years now, and even then I sent really messy immigration issues over to another desk! (or just denied them entrance to the country) That's why I suggested the links first, I know the 'hold message' when you call can be frustrating, (trying to get you to look at the website)... But it's just trying to stress the importance of doing web research their first so you can cut to the chase when you're able to talk to a real person.
Since it's late evening by now across the pond the Canadain Consulate in London is closed, but after you've had a good look through the website and can't find the right answers to your questions, then call the Consulate.
What I meant by "status progression" is changing your status as your needs change (e.g. you go to university so you go under a student visa, then you want to work so you get a work permit, or you decide to go for it and immigrate). People do it all the time, so it's not so unusuall, however I've seen people make a bloody mess of it!
The reason I called immigration 'overkill' is because it is probably the biggest and most lengthy process our government can throw at you. Heck you might get here and might find the -30 degrees Celsius weather on occasion isn't that refreshing after all, and our standard entry level 2 weeks vacation from our employers isn't so great. It's a pretty big ordeal to go through if you don't want to stay for an extended period.
Just make sure what ever option you choose is the best option for you. These are all pretty big decisions so do take your time and think over your options carefully. (which is what I think you are doing, but us at MR can only do so much!)
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Of the two options you list, I think #1 (the student visa) is the most obtainable, I may be wrong but I think you might need an employer to sponsor for the 2 year work visa.... btw this just came to me, have you looked at any work-abroad programs? They might arrange that work visa for you.
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Raid said:..and even then I sent really messy immigration issues over to another desk! (or just denied them entrance to the country)
Goodness! I hope no one does anything like that with my Visa App!
Raid said:
How? How would I escilate from a Student Visa, to a Permanent Visa? I wanted to get a Permanent one first, is possible, then I get to pay LOCAL University charges, and not DOUBLE the fees for being an international student.. if possible.
Raid said:
Thing is, I don't know how to go about finding programs and things people reffer too, Dads money aside, I'm doing this alone. (Not out of choice, but I'm glad I'm doing it - if I can just get a 100% definate answer what it is I'm doing, lol)
CanadaRAM gave me this website earlier:
CanadaRAM said:
What do you think? On that website, they say, for $2000, I can get into Canada, as an 'Independant' - basically a Skilled Worker, without the Skilled Part. He said his Friend used it
Have you ever heard of such a thing?
Also, this member seems to have done the same thing, he says its easy to get in, you just have to wait:
quigleybc said:
It can happen if you don't pay attention to the rules. I turned the honeymoon couple I mentioned back to the U.S. because she was a citizen of an Asian country (I'm not sure which one) with a U.S. student visa but changed her status when she got married to a U.S. citizen. This means if she was admitted into Canada she'd be stuck here (or the U.S. wouldn't let her back in) till U.S. immigration figured out her status. A similar situation acctually happened in Niagara Falls, I think the wife of that couple was stuck here for a number of months.josh.thomas said:Goodness! I hope no one does anything like that with my Visa App!
Well you'd just apply for the different status when you're here. I don't think it speeds up the process any, but I know getting a student visa is faster... and you do have a point about tuition, but let's not mention that to the Immigration Officer o.k?josh.thomas said:How? How would I escilate from a Student Visa, to a Permanent Visa? I wanted to get a Permanent one first, is possible, then I get to pay LOCAL University charges, and not DOUBLE the fees for being an international student.. if possible.
Well google around for work abroad programs, and see what's being offered (of course look out for scams!). My fiancee is a travel agent. I'll ask her about some reputable programs...one guy she worked with was from Ireland so I'm assuming it would work for you too!josh.thomas said:
I have heard of lawyers helping with immigration paperwork and I don't think CanadaRAM would lead you astray. However any reputable legal help will not guarantee you a successful application or a quicker response. They just make sure you put your best case forward. As for the cost, I'm not so sure but $2,000 while not cheap sounds like a pretty legitimate fee.
I don't know about Canada being 'easy to get in', but if you have a decent education, clean bill of health, and no criminal record then there's not much argument (other than a lack of a job) keeping you out.
Raid:
OK, brilliant. So, with the Uni fee's in mind, I should try for a 2 Year work Visa first?
What about going there for the standard 6 months, and looking for a Job, tell them the situation, and if I get it.. lets say its working in a Clothing Storep) could they sponsor me from that moment on for Permanent Residence?
OK, brilliant. So, with the Uni fee's in mind, I should try for a 2 Year work Visa first?
What about going there for the standard 6 months, and looking for a Job, tell them the situation, and if I get it.. lets say its working in a Clothing Store
p) could they sponsor me from that moment on for Permanent Residence?josh.thomas said:Raid:
OK, brilliant. So, with the Uni fee's in mind, I should try for a 2 Year work Visa first?
What about going there for the standard 6 months, and looking for a Job, tell them the situation, and if I get it.. lets say its working in a Clothing Store
This is really the kind of conversation you ought to be having with a lawyer, not on a public forum. I can't speak for Canadian immigration, but I do know that in U.S. immigration you can get tossed for (among a long, long list of other things) working while on a student visa, entering a fraudulent marriage for immigration purposes, or lying or misrepresenting your intentions at any stage of the process. A lawyer knowledgeable about the details of your situation and the country's immigration laws can tell you the best path for you to take, what to say, and what not to say. We can't. And if you're unlucky enough to have a current immigration official (unlike Raid, who's left the job already) browsing MacRumors end up handling your case, you might well end up in a sticky pickle based on what you've got in writing on here.
Is anyone you know a lawyer? See if they can recommend a good immigration lawyer to handle the process for you.
blackstone said:
Thanks for your opinion
- but what have I actually done to get me into a ''sticky'' situation? I have asked about permanent residency, visas, ways of LEGALLY obtaining them, Universities and working abroad.
And if you'r referring to the marriage joke, thats been brought up 2 or 3 times, due to the way its written, and the use of 'smilies' - its clearly said in jest.
I also quote myself saying:
"What do you think about me going on a 2 year work permit, and getting a job with what I have earned so far, then getting them to sponsor me for Perma. Res? I would then continue my Uni. edu. and work at the same time. (An A-Level is equal to a 2 year Canadian Diploma, I have been told, if i was to apply as a Skilled Worker)
Or would it be best go try and get accepted to a Uni there, ''meet'' someone who I'll most likely end up sharing with, and possibly become ''partners'' entitling me to citizenship?
This isn't just some quick ride for me (eventhough some of the suggested steps may seem that way, lol), I intend to build myself a future I can be proud of, either in the IT field (Graphic design, digital arts, photography) or Childwork (Councelling, one-on-one/group activities, child care, or difficult adolescents)"
I think anyone reading that can tell I wasn't being serious about creating a fictional relationship to obtain citizenship.
When the offices of the Canadian Consulate are open, I will be consulting them. However, until Monday comes, I would like to gather as much information as I can from residents and past immigrants - this is a very big decision I'm making.. surely gathering info. is essential?
josh.thomas said:Thanks for your opinion
To take one example, two of the terms of a standard F-1 U.S. student visa are that you must be entering solely for the purpose of pursuing a course of study, and that you currently have a foreign residence which you have no present intention of abandoning.
So, take the example of a hypothetical person applying for a student visa. If that person shouts out to the world, close to the time of his application, that he intends to abandon his foreign residence or that he intend to work while being a student, then he's created two interlocking problems for himself:
(1) If what he said about moving to the U.S. permanently and/or working is true, then he may have talked himself out of eligibility for the visa.
(2) If what he said is not true, then he will have to do a very careful job of explaining himself in order to avoid (a) eliminating his eligibility for the visa or (b) contradicting himself, which suggests that he is a liar, which is a separate ground for denying a visa application.
Now, these things aren't necessarily going to destroy this person's chances of getting a visa, but they will make his immigration lawyer's task more difficult -- and likely more expensive. I'm not saying that your situation is identical to this hypothetical person (because that would be giving legal advice without a license!), but I would give a friendly heads-up to you to be careful what you assert in public because it may come back to bite you.
blackstone said:
Thank you very much for pointing that out... BUT, I haven't done anything wrong?
All I have done is try to figure out the best application for me, someone who wants to move to Canada, whilst at same time continuing an education and being able to work.
I understand what your saying but I don't see how it relates to me, sorry?
Like I said, I want to build a life I am proud of, I plan on doing everything above board. I wouldn't have the guts to do what your hypothetical person is doing. I've said my intentions right from the start, its other people who have suggested escilating a student visa to something else that fits my needs - which is apparently, not an unusual thing in Canada.
I am not an expert, hence coming to this forum, and 3 or 4 others.
I don't know what impression you've got of me, or my intentions, but they are not the route you are talking about.
CanadaRAM said:Well one is, that you talk, A LOT!
Well Ram, hopefully within the next 2 years I'm gonna be out there, in Canada.. maybe I can come visit? *natters non stop*Sorry, next time I'm moving half way around the globe, I will try to keep it under 750 words. Honest.