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2nyRiggz said:Sure....hit me up....normal stuff please i got a rep to keep
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Canada is a great place to live, far better than the UK, IMO. You'll get more experiences here than UK. Plus, the Canadian women are very cute, as are their accents :-D
From what I've heard recently, its quicker to get Permanent Residence if you apply to, for example, Buffalo, should you to come Toronto, rather than applying to the London visa office ; I've heard London takes in excess of 2 years ( mine took 14 months from sending off the application to conclusion, applying to Buffalo ). You need to live in Canada for at least 12 months to apply to a visa post outside your native country.
If you get a student visa you can stay in Canada for 12 months after your course has finished.. then you must leave or get a work visa.
Wow, thats the lawyer company I went through - they are OK, they do what they advertise and are quite cheap. Some lawyer firms can get very expensive...
From what I've heard recently, its quicker to get Permanent Residence if you apply to, for example, Buffalo, should you to come Toronto, rather than applying to the London visa office ; I've heard London takes in excess of 2 years ( mine took 14 months from sending off the application to conclusion, applying to Buffalo ). You need to live in Canada for at least 12 months to apply to a visa post outside your native country.
If you get a student visa you can stay in Canada for 12 months after your course has finished.. then you must leave or get a work visa.
josh.thomas said:
CanadaRAM said:
Wow, thats the lawyer company I went through - they are OK, they do what they advertise and are quite cheap. Some lawyer firms can get very expensive...
^^At this point, JoshDTizzle (what happened with that screenname? ) doesn't need a lawyer. He's far from that, and I wouldn't waste my money on that just yet. Many immigration lawyers give free info sessions to people hoping to immigrate, and they're more than willing to answer all your questions for free. Problem is that these info sessions are generally for people on short-term 1-2 year visas who are already in Canada, so these sessions are in Canada. Even student specific ones are given at Universities.
Maybe doing your first 2 years of undergrad, and then trying to switch to a Canadian University after 2 years of study and getting a Canadian degree that way will help you get residency. I'm not up on Canadian immigration laws, but in many countries, it's easier to move into a country (lets use Canada as an example) if you have graduated with a bachelors degree from Canada, and if you have studied in Canada for at least 2 years.
That's the way it is in Australia. For me to apply for permanent residency once I graduate, there's a special "class" I apply under. It's for people who have earned an Australian bachelors degree and has studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years. If you get an Australian bachelors degree AND an Australian masters degree, and you have studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years, then it gives you even more "points." I've earned a Masters degree and am going for a 3 year Phd right now, so I get lots of "points." The entire system works on points, where you need 120 points to get into permanent residency. Since you come from an english speaking country and english is your first language (so you don't have to take the IELTS or TOEFL english language exams), AND you're young (ie: under 28-30), I think it would be easy to immigrate to Canada permanently if you earn a degree in Canada. But if all you can do is get a 1-2 year study visa, see if you can get most of your credits in the UK, and just do your last 1-2 years in Canada and get the Canadian degree. If you need to study more in Canada, consider going for a 1 year Masters degree in Canada.
And notice that pretty much every Canadian at MacRumours wants to help you move into Canada. Isn't that special. Feel the love.
- Abstract from Toronto
) doesn't need a lawyer. He's far from that, and I wouldn't waste my money on that just yet. Many immigration lawyers give free info sessions to people hoping to immigrate, and they're more than willing to answer all your questions for free. Problem is that these info sessions are generally for people on short-term 1-2 year visas who are already in Canada, so these sessions are in Canada. Even student specific ones are given at Universities. Maybe doing your first 2 years of undergrad, and then trying to switch to a Canadian University after 2 years of study and getting a Canadian degree that way will help you get residency. I'm not up on Canadian immigration laws, but in many countries, it's easier to move into a country (lets use Canada as an example) if you have graduated with a bachelors degree from Canada, and if you have studied in Canada for at least 2 years.
That's the way it is in Australia. For me to apply for permanent residency once I graduate, there's a special "class" I apply under. It's for people who have earned an Australian bachelors degree and has studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years. If you get an Australian bachelors degree AND an Australian masters degree, and you have studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years, then it gives you even more "points." I've earned a Masters degree and am going for a 3 year Phd right now, so I get lots of "points."
The entire system works on points, where you need 120 points to get into permanent residency. Since you come from an english speaking country and english is your first language (so you don't have to take the IELTS or TOEFL english language exams), AND you're young (ie: under 28-30), I think it would be easy to immigrate to Canada permanently if you earn a degree in Canada. But if all you can do is get a 1-2 year study visa, see if you can get most of your credits in the UK, and just do your last 1-2 years in Canada and get the Canadian degree. If you need to study more in Canada, consider going for a 1 year Masters degree in Canada.And notice that pretty much every Canadian at MacRumours wants to help you move into Canada. Isn't that special. Feel the love.
- Abstract from Toronto
josh.thomas said:
I'm not saying that your plans are wrong, nor am I saying that you're a bad person or that you're doing anything sketchy.
There are just a lot of arcane requirements in immigration law that can create serious problems in your application if you're not very careful -- particularly in the post-9/11 United States. (I guess if you're dead-set on moving to Canada and not the U.S., then this is all irrelevant.) But if you do plan on moving to the U.S., I'm just saying you should consult with an immigration attorney before going into too much detail about your future intentions in public -- because you never know who's listening or whether immigration agents will try googling your name when they read your application! There are a lot of strange and counter-intuitive pitfalls that you wouldn't be aware of unless you read the immigration regulations carefully or got assistance from someone who is familiar with them.
The whole business about the F-1 student visa requirements is just one example of what could go wrong if you lock yourself into a particular description of your intentions early on, in a way that could be easily traced back to your real identity. Although there are ways to convert from a student to a permanent resident, you have to meet the requirements for a valid student visa first. Similarly, you have to jump through a different set of equally arcane hoops to convert from a work visa to a permanent resident.
Abstract said:^^At this point, JoshDTizzle (what happened with that screenname?
Maybe doing your first 2 years of undergrad, and then trying to switch to a Canadian University after 2 years of study and getting a Canadian degree that way will help you get residency. I'm not up on Canadian immigration laws, but in many countries, it's easier to move into a country (lets use Canada as an example) if you have graduated with a bachelors degree from Canada, and if you have studied in Canada for at least 2 years.
That's the way it is in Australia. For me to apply for permanent residency once I graduate, there's a special "class" I apply under. It's for people who have earned an Australian bachelors degree and has studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years. If you get an Australian bachelors degree AND an Australian masters degree, and you have studied in Australia for a minimum of 2 years, then it gives you even more "points." I've earned a Masters degree and am going for a 3 year Phd right now, so I get lots of "points."
And notice that pretty much every Canadian at MacRumours wants to help you move into Canada. Isn't that special. Feel the love.
- Abstract from Toronto
You know what? I want to move to Canada too. I've been a senior art director in advertising for over 7 years now. Please take me. I'm tired of this place and want a country that values it's heritage, rather than tearing it down because old buildings just aren't "cost-effective". I'm sick of rampant capitalism. It's just as bad as extreme socialism. You guys have it right up north.
Stella said:
Seriously, the British middle class are all moving to mainland Europe or further afield to "The Colonies" (New Zealand, Oz, or Canada). Meanwhile the Chavs start breeding at age 14 and typically have three or four children. The Chavs have no interest in education and extremely limited horizons in how they view their kids' future.
Think this forward 20 years, and the only people in the UK who will be doing any skilled work will be immigrants from India or Eastern Europe. Like Josh, everyone else with more than half a brain cell and a desire to make something of themselves will be off as soon as they reach 18.
You think the UK is bad now. It's going to get worse.
This might be of interest to you
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060428.STUDENTS28/TPStory/National
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060428.STUDENTS28/TPStory/National
dynamicv said:
Aww
Thanks... I loved this part.. .. Makes me think I'm doin' the right thing... thank you!dynamicv said:
Stella said:
Ooo brilliant, I've just found out, Foreign students can now work off Campus, which means if I go to Canada as a Student, I can work as well
The problem is, being an international student, I would pay double the fees, which would really really eat into my Budget (Around £6/7,000 in Uni fees)
Is there a way I could go to Canada, for 2 years, on a work visa, after 1 year, apply for Permananent Residency via Abrams & Krochak?
Stella said:
Oh that gives me a lot of reassurance if you have used them as well.. Marks out of 10? Confident in them? No 'yucky' feelings that they may be shifty or anything?
Thanks Stella
Abstract said:^^At this point, JoshDTizzle (what happened with that screenname?
Maybe doing your first 2 years of undergrad, and then trying to switch to a Canadian University after 2 years of study and getting a Canadian degree that way will help you get residency. I'm not up on Canadian immigration laws, but in many countries, it's easier to move into a country (lets use Canada as an example) if you have graduated with a bachelors degree from Canada, and if you have studied in Canada for at least 2 years.
Since you come from an english speaking country and english is your first language (so you don't have to take the IELTS or TOEFL english language exams), AND you're young (ie: under 28-30), I think it would be easy to immigrate to Canada permanently if you earn a degree in Canada. But if all you can do is get a 1-2 year study visa, see if you can get most of your credits in the UK, and just do your last 1-2 years in Canada and get the Canadian degree. If you need to study more in Canada, consider going for a 1 year Masters degree in Canada.
And notice that pretty much every Canadian at MacRumours wants to help you move into Canada. Isn't that special. Feel the love.
- Abstract from Toronto
Oh! I want to be where you are! Toronto!
As for JoshDTizzle, its dead in the water I'm afraid.. I'm now JoshDavidThomas... add me, my Canadian penpal! (That sounded A LOT better in my head, far less stalkerish)
So what your saying I should do, is get some Univeristy type degree, or 2 years out here (UK), then after 2 years, get a Canadian one?
After that I can apply for permanent residence, once getting my degree? I can then take a year out, with the extra 12 months I get, to find a job (Gap year this would be used as, between Uni and more 'professional' job) and apply for my residency?
You see what I need is people with 1,2,3 plans.. well done!
Abstract said:And notice that pretty much every Canadian at MacRumours wants to help you move into Canada. Isn't that special. Feel the love.
- Abstract from Toronto
I know!
You guys! Can't one of you take me on as a Worker, so I can go to Uni after been granted Perma. Res. and pay 50% less fees, I am gonna be doing this on my own, y'know... lol
riciad said:
I found that out last night myself, but I thought it only applied to the Uni in Toronto.
Good find.. thanks for doin all you can to help
josh.thomas said:
That depends on your circumstances. To get a work visa, you'd need a job before coming to Canada and that means you have to be HR certified - I forget the actual term ( unless the skill is very much required, i.e., I.T ) - the job has to be approved to ensure you aren't taking a job away from a Canadian.
To find a job from outside of Canada is very difficult - it can be done. If your inside Canada finding your first job even if your Landed ( Permanent Resident ) is quite difficult because of 'Canadian Experience' - that is - employers want you to have experience of living and working in Canada. That what makes finding a job whilst your outside of Canada very difficult. It is quite unforgiving ( but worthwhile ). The job market in Canada, at least, Ontario is very good at the moment. Since you don't have a degree ( by the sounds of it ), getting a Canadian job will make it all the much tougher.
At least you have time on your side.
If you want to ask questions about immigration process you could go to Google groups and post a message to 'misc.immigration.canada', the URL is:
http://groups.google.ca/group/misc.immigration.canada?lnk=gschg
There are a few ex-immigration lawyers / consultants that reply to answers, plus others that have had similar experiences, views.
EDIT: I've seen you've already posted a message there!
http://groups.google.ca/group/misc....30f5d4f158d/ad6b2f670798ebc5#ad6b2f670798ebc5
Stella said:
LOL
It was done via an immigration forum I'm a member of. As well as posting here, I am active on 4 other Canadian forums - I want as much knowledge as possible.Right, so I couldn't for example, go to Canada for 6 months (standard Visa) find a job working in a clothing store, once I get the job, apply for a working visa for 2 years. At the end of that, apply for permanent residency? Once that comes through - go to Uni.
Or, how can I live in Canada for 12 months, to apply for the Permanent Residency in Buffalo?
Stella, you are being flawless with your replies, please keep them up! Its really appreciated, When I'm in Canada, we'll have a Stella! (Well, you can, I'm more of a Vodak dude!)
Regarding the international uni fees: I'm sorry, but fair is fair. If I did my PhD at UCL, it would have cost me around 13,500 quid per year. Yes, you heard right.
I've lived in London. Not a bad place, and not everyone is a chav. It won't be the place it once was in around 30-40 years when the current population ages and there's not enough skilled workers to replace the current ones (low birth rates and all), but that can be said about almost every "western" country in the world.
I don't know if that's what I said, but it's definitely not what I implied.
Here's what I meant: There's a chance that it's easier to acquire permanent residence in a country, possibly Canada, if you have graduated from a Canadian university and have studied in Canada for a minimum of 2 years. This is the situation in places like Australia, which is where I'm studying now.
If you can only get a 2 year student visa to Canada rather than a 4 year visa, OR if you simply can't afford to pay the international tuition rate for 4 years in Canada, I suggested that one alternative might be to complete part of your education in the UK, switch to a Canadian university, and complete your degree in Canada. For example, if you want to take a 4 year Commerce program, do the first 2 or 3 years in the UK (eg: at UCL, Sheffield, Lancaster....wherever), then see if you can switch to a Canadian/Toronto university (eg: University of Toronto (UofT), York Uni) and move all your credits with you. If you can move your credits with you to UofT, then you'd only need another 2 years to complete your Bachelors of Commerce degree, and it'll be a Canadian degree!! This would be a benefit if you can only get a maximum 2 year student visa in Canada.
If that's not worth enough in terms of "points" or in the eyes of Immigration Canada, then complete a 1 year Masters degree in something like economics or something while you're at it.
Check the Canadian immigration website to see if graduating from a Canadian University earns you more points towards permanent residence. Also check to see whether the uni program you're interested in entering is offered at UofT or York Uni, and see if credits from a university like Sheffied, Kings College, or whichever university you'd want to go to can be transferred to University of Toronto.
Also, I wouldn't recommend that you go see an immigration lawyer at this point. See if you can go to a free "clinic" given by an immigration lawyer, or ask to see if you can have a free 10 minute consultation. It's not worth $2000 for him to fill in some paperwork and give you advice you can get on the official website and the internet......not at this point.
I've lived in London. Not a bad place, and not everyone is a chav. It won't be the place it once was in around 30-40 years when the current population ages and there's not enough skilled workers to replace the current ones (low birth rates and all), but that can be said about almost every "western" country in the world.
josh.thomas said:
I don't know if that's what I said, but it's definitely not what I implied.
Here's what I meant: There's a chance that it's easier to acquire permanent residence in a country, possibly Canada, if you have graduated from a Canadian university and have studied in Canada for a minimum of 2 years. This is the situation in places like Australia, which is where I'm studying now.
If you can only get a 2 year student visa to Canada rather than a 4 year visa, OR if you simply can't afford to pay the international tuition rate for 4 years in Canada, I suggested that one alternative might be to complete part of your education in the UK, switch to a Canadian university, and complete your degree in Canada. For example, if you want to take a 4 year Commerce program, do the first 2 or 3 years in the UK (eg: at UCL, Sheffield, Lancaster....wherever), then see if you can switch to a Canadian/Toronto university (eg: University of Toronto (UofT), York Uni) and move all your credits with you. If you can move your credits with you to UofT, then you'd only need another 2 years to complete your Bachelors of Commerce degree, and it'll be a Canadian degree!! This would be a benefit if you can only get a maximum 2 year student visa in Canada.
If that's not worth enough in terms of "points" or in the eyes of Immigration Canada, then complete a 1 year Masters degree in something like economics or something while you're at it.
Check the Canadian immigration website to see if graduating from a Canadian University earns you more points towards permanent residence. Also check to see whether the uni program you're interested in entering is offered at UofT or York Uni, and see if credits from a university like Sheffied, Kings College, or whichever university you'd want to go to can be transferred to University of Toronto.
Also, I wouldn't recommend that you go see an immigration lawyer at this point. See if you can go to a free "clinic" given by an immigration lawyer, or ask to see if you can have a free 10 minute consultation. It's not worth $2000 for him to fill in some paperwork and give you advice you can get on the official website and the internet......not at this point.
I'm not sure - but you can't work in Canada if you don't have a work permit. Normally Work permits allow you to work for one named company, if you change your job you have to apply to change your work permit details.. and that may be denied.
I know of options if you are in a common law relationship and your partner has a work permit / permanent resident etc, but since your single ( ? ) I think that may limit your options.
Perhaps another question to ask on Canada Immigration newsgroup if no one can answer it ( or for second opinion )?!
If you are intent on immigrating to Canada - learn French ( French and English tests are mandatory now,, if not your native language and you claim to speak them, btw, so you just can't ********!! ). It will give you more points and is useful if you visit Quebec. Quebec City is very, very nice, btw. Currently, the pass mark is 67. If you have a degree and a few years work experience this pass mark isn't very hard to match and exceed. If you lived in Canada for more than 12 months, you'll get more points too. This pass mark can be changed at any time and often will also apply to applications that have been submitted and in processing.
I know of options if you are in a common law relationship and your partner has a work permit / permanent resident etc, but since your single ( ? ) I think that may limit your options.
Perhaps another question to ask on Canada Immigration newsgroup if no one can answer it ( or for second opinion )?!
If you are intent on immigrating to Canada - learn French ( French and English tests are mandatory now,, if not your native language and you claim to speak them, btw, so you just can't ********!! ). It will give you more points and is useful if you visit Quebec. Quebec City is very, very nice, btw. Currently, the pass mark is 67. If you have a degree and a few years work experience this pass mark isn't very hard to match and exceed. If you lived in Canada for more than 12 months, you'll get more points too. This pass mark can be changed at any time and often will also apply to applications that have been submitted and in processing.
josh.thomas said:
Nickygoat said:To save you 5 minutes on Monday - they're closed until Tuesday. Bank Holiday remember.
Another day to wait....
...Blinded by excitement!
By the way, all of you do realise, if I get bad news on Monday, I'm gonna be on the edge of insanity.. so be prepared!
Hi Josh, I talked to my fiancee last night about the work-abroad programme she's familiar with. Here its called SWAP (Student Work Abroad Programme), but it's counterpart in the UK is called BUNAC which you might qualify for.
As for blackstone's comments it's been my experience that U.S. immigratiion has absolutely no sense of humour (and that was before 2001)! While I don't think you've said anything here that would cause problems with any dealings with them. However if you do talk to them take everything seriously and be direct, to the point and above all honest with them. (good advice anywhere actually ) Just answer their questions as they come, they probably will ask if you may consider changing your status, just deal with that question when it comes (but again absolutely no kidding around with them).
Well that's about it... good luck and don't be discouraged if it takes some time.
As for blackstone's comments it's been my experience that U.S. immigratiion has absolutely no sense of humour (and that was before 2001)! While I don't think you've said anything here that would cause problems with any dealings with them. However if you do talk to them take everything seriously and be direct, to the point and above all honest with them. (good advice anywhere actually
) Just answer their questions as they come, they probably will ask if you may consider changing your status, just deal with that question when it comes (but again absolutely no kidding around with them). Well that's about it... good luck and don't be discouraged if it takes some time.