Canadian iPad Pro Prices =Pretty Insane

Discussion in 'iPad' started by JonnyIreland, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. JonnyIreland macrumors 6502a

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    Prices taken from iphoneincanada.ca website:

    • $1049 ($799 US) for the 32GB with Wi-Fi model
    • $1249 ($949 US) for the 128GB Wi-Fi model
    • $1429 ($1079 US) for the Wi-Fi + Cellular 128GB model
    • Apple Pencil will be available for $129 (CAD)
    • Smart Keyboard (US English layout) will be available in charcoal grey for $229 (CAD)
    • iPad Pro Smart Covers will be available for $75 (CAD) in charcoal grey and white.
    • iPad Pro Silicone Cases will be available for $99 (CAD) in charcoal grey and white.

    I know that the Canadian dollar is pretty weak vs $US, but these prices have real sticker shock...
     
  2. touchstoned macrumors regular

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    Well you shouldn't have stolen all than maple syrup then should you? Or whatever canada did to be relegated to such a poor economic standing...
     
  3. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    Don't complain about prices when you have subsidized healthcare. The cost of doing business in each country is different.
    Or you can stop by Oregon and buy your Apple stuff there tax free.
     
  4. BradWould macrumors 6502

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    Having subsidized healthcare has exactly nothing to do with the price of Apple products in Canada, or the state of the Canadian dollar.
     
  5. s2mikey macrumors 68020

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    Wow. Brutal. A dubious value at those prices. No thanks.

    As for Canada's financial system... not sure whats going on but taxes are high and all of the free stuff ironically costs money. Me thinks. Just a hunch. All good. :) Love Canada, great place.
     
  6. pika2000 macrumors 68030

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    The prices that businesses opted, including Apple, for Canada reflects the cost of doing business in the country. That reflects various costs and taxes. Taxes in turn is used for government spending on things like healthcare.

    If you want, you can ignore al of that, renounce your citizenship, and move to the US state like Oregon where there's no sales tax, and you can enjoy your Apple products at Apple's exact MSRP. (or you can just drive/fly there and shop). :D
     
  7. jqc macrumors regular

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    Just like in the US, sales tax is not quoted in the price and corporate tax rates are very similar in each country. The CAD prices quote above is pretty much a conversion of USD prices into CAD.
     
  8. touchstoned macrumors regular

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    It basically means our friends to the north become effectively 33% poorer the moment the enter the US. It also means you can vacation in canada for almost nothing.
     
  9. Winters macrumors member

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    Did you look at the price in europe 1249 euro or 1785 cad for the top of the line ipad pro? I d gladly take canadian price.
     
  10. mrex macrumors 68020

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    If that was the only fact, then we should have here (in europe) really low prices:
    - No apple stores (or warehouses) here
    - retailers sell and store all (or apple netstore in another country though)
    - retailers are the one who gives you the support in person (no costs)
    - no apple customer service point (only phone support, very low costs)
    - no applecare protection plans for iphone for example. "If you break it, you pay it" (no extra costs for apple during "accidental damage plans", scrathes,dents or whatever.)

    Pretty low costs for apple to sell their stuff here, they just need to translate their websites and no difficult customers changing their devices on everyday for whatever reason or mood they have and making appointments with genius. Still the prizes are the same or higher while they should be much lower if "the cost of doing business in each country" is calculated in an equation as the main point of prizes.

    It is more or less but rest of the world is paying that a customer can have his appointments with genius, destroy his phones and getting a new one, changing his mind on the next day and change his device to another... If the prizes would have set as "... doing a business in each country...", i bet that usa would be on the top with the costs of doing business and the prizes would be quite differend than they are now.
     
  11. Kebabselector macrumors 68030

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    Eurozone prices typically include VAT whereas the US/CAD do not include any sales tax.
     
  12. profets macrumors 68040

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    Really shouldn't be surprised by this pricing. Based on all other apple pricing recently, 30-35% on top of the US dollar is quite typical.
     
  13. mgipe macrumors demi-god

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    You do realize that these Canadian prices are slightly lower than the US price?
     
  14. JonnyIreland thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It all depends on how you analyze the prices.... when US and Cdn $ were in parity a couple of years back, Apple cross-border prices were much closer... since then, most wages in Canada have not increased (like mine, for example) yet the price of Apple products as skyrocketed.. so its a bigger %age of my wage, if that makes sense.
     
  15. Moneoa macrumors member

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    That would require thinking, Cause, you know. Money is worth the same everywhere on the planet
     
  16. BrennerM macrumors regular

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    As a Canadian, those prices hurt, but they are a direct reflection of the gap in our dollar right now vs the American dollar. It is not like Apple is gouging Canadians any more than they are gouging Americans, just a similar amount.
     
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    The issue is that, for example, an iPad will see a 30% price increase in Canadian dollars to keep up with the USD exchange rate, but many Canadian workers will not see their Canadian dollar salaries rise even slightly proportionately. I'm not blaming Apple, however, as they are simply keeping up with the economy.
     
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    There's more to selling in foreign markets than a simple exchange rate.
     
  19. cynics macrumors G3

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    Exactly. Look at mainland China, 16gb iPhone 6S is 5288 RMB (~830 USD). Although I think there is still a price gouge there even after China's luxury tax especially considering Apple just got caught not paying taxes...

    I guess when you make billions then 71 million dollars in unpaid taxes might slip through the cracks...............lol
     
  20. gsingham macrumors 6502

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    Australian prices are pretty on par

    US$1199 for the 128gb cellular
     
  21. bounou macrumors 6502

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    It's actually better then I expected but yeah you are right
     
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    This is actually slightly below the actual exchange rate.
     
  23. JonnyIreland thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    As already mention above, it's not about "exchange rates" on currencies.... It's a mixture of the perceived increase between the US and Canadian prices (don't forget we are bombarded by US media in Canada and most of the population live quite close to the border, therefore there's a built-in "price comparison" app in every Canadians' brain!) but more importantly whilst these prices have increased (and I'm not just talking Apple here), the average wage has not. So if I was making $1,000/week two years ago and the iPad Pro was released at C$799 then, I'm maybe making $1,020/week two years later but the iPad Pro costs $1,049.
    EDITED to include the point that I'm not blaming Apple or upset(!), the original point of the thread was to say that these prices are quite a shock to the system.... An iPad Pro + Keyboard + Pencil can cost more than the MacBook, for example.
     
  24. bounou macrumors 6502

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    I think we should be a little upset honestly, the cost increase is more profit for Apple, tons of the costs for this device are not in USD but in various currencies that have not gone up, the guy in the Apple Store when you come in to buy it won't be making more money because the USD went up.

    They could choose to raise the price to cover the extra costs instead they match it the USD. They did not make that choice for the iPad mini 4.

    And in the long run right or wrong I think it's going to cost them customers, more and more Apple is becoming a luxury company, really hard to sell tons of something when it's s luxury product.

    Obviously not an issue now but give it 5-10 years and maybe they regret the price increases.

    I am going to get this product like I do for most Apple products honestly, I love new technology and I can afford it but not everyone is in the same situation.

    Just my opinion, obviously I could be wrong
     
  25. TechZeke, Nov 9, 2015
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    I feel for the folks up north. However, look at it from the business perspective. While I don't think it's fair for the Canadians that everything skyrockets in price with no wage increase, it'd be equally unfair to expect Apple to lower prices in Canada just because of that fact.

    Also, I doubt anyone would complain if it was a small mom and pop store based in the US. It'd be unreasonable to expect a small shop to cut its prices out of good will for Canadians. The business wouldn't survive doing that. But because Apple is so large and rich, they should cut prices right?

    If the situation was reversed, and America saw a USD decline, then everyone would be calling out us Americans for being selfish crybabies. "Murica!!" I think is what one European said in a thread a couple days ago?
     

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