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Canadian Law Firm Applies for Class Action Lawsuit Over FaceTime Bug
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Apple never asked permission for iPhones to listen in on private conversations. Google asks permission to record your web searches.
I tried the bug while calling a friend of mine. I had to listen first hand as they ignored my call and described me as, "Oh, just some *******. He makes GIFs a lot for some reason. You'd think he'd have something better to do with his life…"
There's a massive difference between "Brazenly harvest your data" and providing a backdoor for nefarious actors to spy undetected.
conflating the two is just silly deflection.
you're well within your rights to question the data collection of the other companies, but to try and pass off a potential security hole because of other companies failings is pretty broken logic
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I tried the bug while calling a friend of mine. I had to listen first hand as they ignored my call and described me as, "Oh, just some *******. He makes GIFs a lot for some reason. You'd think he'd have something better to do with his life…"
do hurt feelings have monetary value
They will probably argue that they are now fearful of the technology they poses. The very technology that Apple executives have been claiming is safe from snooping.
I'm still not sure that would warrant the lawsuit to go ahead up here. Unless the claimants can show that the fear of that had some sort of monetary, or life altering affects.
Overall, same with even the US, I don't like the lawsuits just because it happened. They should need to prove there is an actual loss occurring to be able to sue for monetary damages. And honestly despite the issue of the bug and security, I'm not sure how any of the plaintifs are going to be able to prove damages
This what happens when like Apple trying to cheap out ignoring email, calls and faxes to get away from paying a bug bounty program. This is also the privacy that Timmy trying to protect us just so can make himself looks good PR, well he just shoot his own foot with this. This is obviously a serious issue too bad for Apple somebody found this an opportunity to make money. The only secure from Apple is their email and phone system where nobody else could reach to them.
Frivolous lawsuits also take up court time. Court time that could be used for legitimate cases where real harm and problems exist. Court time is taken up by these things just to handle the rare dismissal and appeals of dismissals.
I agree with your post except for number three. In order for that to happen, there would need to be tort reform, and I don't see that happening any time soon. In addition, using tort reform in such a manner could open up pandora's legal box.
Do you know what class action lawsuit are for ? For where a company does small harm/damage to ALL their customers. Apple shouldn't get away with doing this.
This is just funny. Apple screwed up and someone should be fired, but really, lawsuits?
What are the chances anyone was harmed before the information became public? It's quite clear people are fabricating stories of "loss" or "damage" only after they knew how to duplicate the bug.
Why on earth would you ever add your own number to a group FaceTime in a normal situation? Oh that's right, you wouldn't and that's why 4 months went by with no mention of this.
Very difficult to prove damage. Mistakes happen. Someone does need to be fired, but lord, these lawsuits are just ridiculous and will go nowhere.
What are the chances anyone was harmed before the information became public? It's quite clear people are fabricating stories of "loss" or "damage" only after they knew how to duplicate the bug.
Why on earth would you ever add your own number to a group FaceTime in a normal situation? Oh that's right, you wouldn't and that's why 4 months went by with no mention of this.
Very difficult to prove damage. Mistakes happen. Someone does need to be fired, but lord, these lawsuits are just ridiculous and will go nowhere.
So you’ve already had a vision revealing the certitude of points 1 & 2. Good to know. Too bad we don’t have you around for every trial everywhere. Think about how much money and time we could save on investigations, detectives and discovery!
You act like the did it on purpose like Goole and Facebook.
This was a bug that was missed. Granted, bad look. I advocating firing someone as high as Craig for this.
However, how was anyone really damaged by this? What is your loss? Privacy? The circumstances to demonstrate loss of privacy are very specific and could only be replicated once someone told you how to do it. What if the same thing happened if you typed 235723589345934593847634ZDgkhdlkjghdlfkgldsfgsdf# on your keypad?
I mean, Apple disabled it and tried to keep it under wraps so the nonsense of people hearing about the bug and doing it to people wouldn't happen.
Apple is covered by the EULA language so many ways that this will get no traction.
That is why this is called a bug. It's an unintentional flaw in implementation.
There's a broad gulf between that and the intentional certificate abuse we've seen by Facebook and Google this week.
Only because it’s Apple. I didn’t hear Microsoft getting sued when files were deleted by windows 10.
Someone probably got caught with their pants down after this went public and wound up getting slapped with a divorce suit. They'll dream up some make believe damages, and in the end everyone will get a check for $2.12 if they remember to send in the mailed reply with one of Canada's $1.00 stamps
Yeah I mean I know next to nothing about the legal system but in order for their to be a lawsuit there has to be harm right? How many people could’ve honestly been harmed by this financially or otherwise and how would you even prove it? I don’t see how this could possibly gain class action status.
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Again where is the harm? Also, it was a bug, they didn’t do it on purpose.
Doesn't hurt Apple to get some kicks here and there but I wonder why nobody is suing Facebook and Google.
Apple's bug wasn't intentional, stupid bug that shouldn't happen but
Facebook and Google are doing it on purpose, this is criminal and deserves all what could teach them to honestly behave . Zuckerberg is incredibly bold , he can't care less, not even in front of the Congress. And after Cambridge analytica he keeps steeling data and who knows what it's going to happen with politic , fake news etc.
DISGUSTING to say the least
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/video/4019838-family-was-watched-through-nest-security-cameras/
Where is the class action lawsuit for Nest?
Where is the class action lawsuit for Nest?