I couldn't agree more that the discovery channel has been completely dumbed down. I remember in the mid to late 90's watching tons of nature shows, a show about movie special effects, and some show called Beyond 2000. Now it's all car and motorcycle reality shows, and of course the one that features fishermen swearing and dropping square box after square box into the bering sea. Not to mention I can't even remember the last time I saw TLC actually advertise it as The Learning Channel instead of the Trading Spaces channel.