Is it worth if for free(ish)? I traded in an iphone 13 I paid $100 for and got the Air after bill credits for no cost, so ultimately 180 after the cost of the 13 and taxes. I don't jump around between providers so that part isn't a consideration for me.
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iPhone 17 Pro Cancelled the Pro
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I would think the main disadvantage of the Air is how quickly the battery will wear out. Using full or almost full battery cycles everyday will shorten the life of the battery compared to a larger battery which uses less of a full cycle everyday.
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That's subjective. I have a 15 Pro, which is lighter than the 17 Pro, and it's too heavy.
I haven't had a Pro Max, but I can attest to the Pro just feeling... unwieldy? bulky? "Heavy" might not be the best word b/c we're talking about phones and relatively subtle differences in weight. But there is something about it - it feels like I could chunk it at someone's head and knock them out.
I ended up switching to the standard 17. The weight wasn't the reason why; ultimately it was paying 38% more for a feature I rarely need (zoom) and modestly better battery life (while still needing to charge daily). But man, the difference in feel between the two is significant - the standard 17 just feels lighter and more balanced overall. I think kirk.vino is right - they've got that 17P packed so tight... I could see how someone who considers that an important factor could find the 17P "unwieldy".
Oh definitely! It’s a wonderful device. But make sure you’re prepared to live with the sacrifices to get to that thinness.
No this was heavy - my first portable cellular phone on the Western Los Angeles phone system where we had to go thru an operator:
The air is like 20% less weight than the standard pro. Most would regard 20% of anything pretty significant.
The i7 Pros' three "fusion" camera system really is a substantially improved camera system for all. The only reasons anyone who does any iPhone photography should not buy the Pro iPhones would be because of cost, or because the thin/light/cutesy of the iPhone Air is much more important than image capture to them. [which is fine, YMMV to all]
The 17 Pro Max and Pro weigh 6-7 grams more than last year.
Zero chance anyone could tell the different in a blind test. I don't agree the Pro feels heavier and more unwieldy than the Pro Max, but I can't discount someone's opinions and feelings about that. The Max feels way more bulky in the pocket this year than the 16 pro max. The added weight and significant thickness added with a case on top of it was too much for me.
Zero chance anyone could tell the different in a blind test. I don't agree the Pro feels heavier and more unwieldy than the Pro Max, but I can't discount someone's opinions and feelings about that. The Max feels way more bulky in the pocket this year than the 16 pro max. The added weight and significant thickness added with a case on top of it was too much for me.
I do not use cases. And IMO the 17 Pro Max does not feel "way more bulky in the pocket this year than the 16 Pro Max." In fact I opine the opposite. IMO the 17 PM feels less bulky in-pocket and more comfortable in hand than the 16 PM did, probably because of the rounded edges. This from someone who considers the 16 PM to be a superb phone.
I think the AIR is really a wonderful design. I agree with the poster that said it might not be worth the price. The AIR, specwise is a worse phone than last years 16. I could maybe deal with the speaker and battery drawbacks. I think the lack of flexibility in the camera is a tough compromise.
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Couldn’t agree less. Are cameras important? Yes, if you’re a pro photographer or filmmaker. Otherwise, this is the kind of hardware we haven’t seen from Apple since X.
I feel like this needs to be expanded upon a little 😅
How do you use your compliment or spare phones, just out of curiosity?
For me I just get the phone I want and then chuck Apple Care theft and loss on it for peace of mind.
I have a Samsung A36 as a travel phone. It is excellent and it’s not a big deal if it gets stolen by pickpockets.
If I really stop and think about it the 17PM does feel a bit heavier than my 15PM but I don’t notice it in day to day use or in my pocket. Love the upgraded cameras, screen size, and battery. My iPhone is my main computer, I rarely touch my M4 MBP.
On Monday, I held an Air for a moment at an Apple store. I immediately set it back down because it felt like a toy. But I knew it wouldn’t be for me from the moment the rumors started. Each to their own but I can’t imagine Apple will sell many of them. The regular 17 is better for the vast majority and the Pro is better if you use the extra lenses.
On Monday, I held an Air for a moment at an Apple store. I immediately set it back down because it felt like a toy. But I knew it wouldn’t be for me from the moment the rumors started. Each to their own but I can’t imagine Apple will sell many of them. The regular 17 is better for the vast majority and the Pro is better if you use the extra lenses.
Some of us who prefer the thin/light/cutesy Air use a real camera for pictures!
Phone sensors, no matter how much improved, are still tiny and struggle with low-light. Plus, the fake portrait mode still has flaws!Some of us who prefer the thin/light/cutesy Air use a real camera for pictures!
True, though it must be said, the main camera on the 17 and the Air is actually quite good.
I straight up preferred the photos I took on my Air compared to my 15PM. I guess there's something going on in the colour science or photo pipeline that's just doing a better job than previous years.
A wise decision - keep the Air and dump the new Pros, which are only marginally better than previous phones, use aluminum (the poor man's titanium) and are the ugliest phones Apple has ever made.
I have a personal phone and a work issued phone too. The question sounded like the OP was getting another iPhone to 'compliment' the other, like when someone buys a yellow cushion to put on a grey sofa.
Does anybody 'like' having 2 phones? Its usually a big inconvenience that we begrudgingly accept from our employers.
I don’t, but don’t have that issue anyway - both my work and personal numbers are in the same phone.
Wait, what? How many phones now? 😂
I'm skipping this year and am waiting for the iBook mini. Or however it's going to be called 😅
Agreed = fantastic new design, form factor, and innovative engineering!
Air is NOT a Pro - it was never designed to be a Pro.
Why all the haters from the Pro crowd is mind blowing.
I love my Air because I don't need any Pro features - never used them in my work 14PM and 16 Pro I traded in.
Air is a cellphone - not a high end photo camera nor a stereo soundblaster.
If I want great photo / videos, I'd pull out my Canon DSLR with prime and Pro lenses.
If I wanted great lossless audio, I'd play them on my Mac Studio Max with class A amplifiers.
Best to get the correct tools for the job.
I feel like I am living in dreamland the iPhone Air has a great camera, much better then my 14 PM's super unreliable camera system. Everyone keeps talking about the cameras like the Air has a garbage camera, its not its extremely sharp and clear. Sure it doesn't have an ultrawide lens but the ultrawide shots were never great to begin with it was a massive hit in detail.