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Canon 1D X announced!!!

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Specs:

Full Frame
18.1MP
Dual DIGIC 5+ – 17 Times The Processing Power of DIGIC 4
ISO 100-51200 Native
100,000 Pixel RGB Metering Sensor
EOS iSA (Intelligent Subject Analysis)
61 Point AF
21 f/5.6 Cross Type Sensors
20 f/4 Cross Type Sensors
5 f/2.8 Cross Type Senors
EOS iTR AF (Intelligent Tracking & Recognition Auto Focus)
12 Frames Per Second
14 Frames Per Second JPG Only
400,000 Shot Rated Sensor
Ethernet Connection
March Availability

The specs are not 100% confirmed by canon right now. The name & release date are 100% certain.
 
Hmm, maybe instead of Ethernet it has FireWire? Just a thought.

This camera proves that at least one large camera manufacturer has a mature outlook on what their cameras are for. This is going to be a hand-held camera much of the time. So there's no need to cram in too many photosites on the sensor. 18Mpx is fine - it also allows those high frame rates.

35mm film has higher (or equivalent) resolution but only at sensitivities at about 6,400 and lower. I doubt film could give a usable image at ISO 51,200! ISO 12,000, perhaps, but not much higher.
 
Full details: http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-11666-12012

fitshaced said:
Very impressive but puzzled on the ethernet port.
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At many "big time" sporting events (e.g. Final Four, MLB playoffs) outlets such as AP, Getty, SI, etc. like to "hard-wire" their photogs so images are instantly transmitted to an editor in the workroom for immediate upload to the wire.

Currently they're having to use the WFT-E2 for ethernet (the Wi-Fi is useless in a crowded venue like that) which means they're paying for the full wireless functionality of the WFT when they only need the ethernet portion. As such this will be a major draw for them. The built-in Ethernet means they don't have to purchase and distribute all those additional pieces of equipment.

Studio and other photogs who still need the Wi-Fi can purchase the adaptor as always.
 
OreoCookie said:
So is Canon replacing its two-tiered pro line-up with a single camera now? Or will we see a 1D Xs/1Ds X?
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From the Galbraith article [emphasis mine]:

"With this announcement, Canon is also officially discontinuing the EOS-1Ds Mark III (though this is largely a formality, as the company is likely to have stopped manufacturing this body eons ago). Going forward, the EOS-1D X will be the only 1-series camera the company makes, or at least it will be once it becomes a shipping product starting next year."

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Thanks, a lot. That makes a lot of sense, this way Canon can concentrate all its developmental efforts around one body. Plus, it has the high-res market covered with the 5D series.

(It's early in the morning here and I usually don't have time to actually read news articles until lunch break.)
 
Wow, these are impressive specs, at $6.8k MSRP way out of my price range, but I'd love to have this over a weekend just to play and experiment.

New 61-Point High Density Reticular AF
The EOS-1D X includes a brand new 61-Point High Density Reticular AF, the most sophisticated DSLR AF system Canon has ever released. The 21 focusing points in the central area are standard precision cross-type and effective with maximum apertures as small as f/5.6, depending on the lens in use. The center five points are also high-precision diagonal cross-type points for maximum apertures as small as f/2.8. All 61 points are sensitive to horizontal contrast with maximum apertures as small as f/5.6 and 20 of the outer focusing points function as cross-type points with maximum apertures as small as f/4.0. Other innovations of the new 61-point High Density Reticular AF include expanded AF coverage area, superior focusing precision and low light sensitivity, and greater low-contrast subject detection capability compared to earlier EOS AF systems. (See image below for AF point configuration)
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EOS iTR AF: Intelligent Tracking and Recognition Enhances AF Performance
The Canon EOS-1D X features incredible new EOS iTR (Intelligent Tracking and Recognition) AF options ideal for wedding and event photography as well as sports and photojournalism. The default AF mode for the EOS-1D X uses phase detection AF information, while a new second option uses Face Detection technology to track recognized faces in addition to color information, ideal when shooting events such as tennis or dancing where facial recognition of the original subject will help keep that person in focus throughout the scene.
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The low-light capability of the EOS-1D X is evident in its incredible ISO range and ability to photograph in extremely low-light conditions. Adjustable from ISO 100 to 51,200 within its standard range, the new model offers a low ISO 50 setting for studio and landscape photography and two high settings of 102,400 at H1 and 204,800 at H2, ideal for law enforcement, government or forensic field applications.
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Flash SWT said:
From the Galbraith article [emphasis mine]:

"With this announcement, Canon is also officially discontinuing the EOS-1Ds Mark III (though this is largely a formality, as the company is likely to have stopped manufacturing this body eons ago). Going forward, the EOS-1D X will be the only 1-series camera the company makes, or at least it will be once it becomes a shipping product starting next year."

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That's interesting for sure - but it leaves Canon's studio photographers wanting more. The specs of this camera look pretty impressive, but it's definitely no replacement for the 1Ds series - more an enhanced 1D. It isn't a camera that I would consider buying.

Canon is getting great ISO, noise and quality results from their 18Mpix cropped camera line - and scaling that pixel pitch up to full frame would give you a 36Mpix sensor. Studio photographers are looking for progress in this area (and in a studio you're not concerned about weather shielding or low light).

I'm wondering if they'll be re-introducing a '3 series' line to satisfy high resolution requirements, or whether they'll just put their resolution enhancements in the 5DIII.
 
firestarter said:
I'm wondering if they'll be re-introducing a '3 series' line to satisfy high resolution requirements, or whether they'll just put their resolution enhancements in the 5DIII.
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That'd be pretty confusing, I don't really see a camera in between the 5D series and 1D series -- unless they make the 5D Mark III a lot cheaper than the Mark II and put a hypothetical 3D into the price slot of the 5D Mark II or slightly north of that. But even then, I don't think there is a lot of space to differentiate: Otherwise, they could rename the 3D into 1Ds X and call it a day.
 
OreoCookie said:
That'd be pretty confusing, I don't really see a camera in between the 5D series and 1D series -- unless they make the 5D Mark III a lot cheaper than the Mark II and put a hypothetical 3D into the price slot of the 5D Mark II or slightly north of that. But even then, I don't think there is a lot of space to differentiate: Otherwise, they could rename the 3D into 1Ds X and call it a day.
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I agree really... there's always been a lot of rumours surrounding a '3 series' (it's kind of the small-form-factor MacPro of the Canon world; the cheaper pro machine that never materialises). Introducing something like that would cause buying confusion between that, the 1, 5 and 7.

If the 5 line is going to be Canon's only 20Mpix+ camera, then it's going to have to have better weather sealing and focus in order to compete.

Alternatively, Canon backing away from super high resolution on the 1 series may give more weight to the alternative (longstanding) rumours that they're looking to introduce an even more high-end large sensor medium format model.
 
firestarter said:
I agree really... there's always been a lot of rumours surrounding a '3 series' (it's kind of the small-form-factor MacPro of the Canon world; the cheaper pro machine that never materialises). Introducing something like that would cause buying confusion between that, the 1, 5 and 7.
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I remember when the EOS-3 came out, it was a great camera that leap-frogged the then current EOS-1. The only other route I can see Canon may take is to make something that is primarily a video camera, but also doubles as a dslr (in that order).
firestarter said:
Alternatively, Canon backing away from super high resolution on the 1 series may give more weight to the alternative (longstanding) rumours that they're looking to introduce an even more high-end large sensor medium format model.
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But then they'd have to introduce a new lens mount, wouldn't they?
miloblithe said:
Maybe they can split the 5 line into a studio/high-end version and a lower end (sub $2000!!!) enthusiast/semi-pro version.
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That'd be great. I'm still hoping that one day, the 7D/D300-equivalents will have full frame sensors …*one can dream! But yeah, then there'd be a slot for a 3D, at least money-wise.
 
OreoCookie said:
But then they'd have to introduce a new lens mount, wouldn't they?
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Hey - I don't make these rumours up! :p

In practice, a new lens mount for a medium format sized camera isn't such a big deal. You can make do with far fewer lenses, given that MF people tend to like primes (you can crop, so composing tightly isn't such a problem). You could launch a system like that with the equivalent of a 24, 50 and 80mm, and people would buy it. (I used to have a Hasselblad with 50, 80, 150 - approximately equivalent).
 
firestarter said:
Hey - I don't make these rumours up! :p

In practice, a new lens mount for a medium format sized camera isn't such a big deal. You can make do with far fewer lenses, given that MF people tend to like primes (you can crop, so composing tightly isn't such a problem). You could launch a system like that with the equivalent of a 24, 50 and 80mm, and people would buy it. (I used to have a Hasselblad with 50, 80, 150 - approximately equivalent).
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Yes, witness the Pentax 645D. I think they have three lenses for that camera, and Pentax can't make the bodies fast enough to meet demand. Although, to be fair, there were a lot of vintage lenses floating around that used the same mount (which quickly became hot items on the used market once the 645D came out).
 
Phrasikleia said:
Yes, witness the Pentax 645D. I think they have three lenses for that camera, and Pentax can't make the bodies fast enough to meet demand.
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Really, I didn't know, I always thought the medium format market was slowly dying. But it's great, the 645 looks like a great (and big) camera.
 
firestarter said:
Studio photographers are looking for progress in this area (and in a studio you're not concerned about weather shielding or low light).

I'm wondering if they'll be re-introducing a '3 series' line to satisfy high resolution requirements, or whether they'll just put their resolution enhancements in the 5DIII.
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I think they'll be pushing the 5DIII as their new "studio" body. As you mentioned you don't need weather shielding inside. If they continue to improve the high ISO performance and maybe boost the AF ability it would be great. (My wife is a wedding and portrait photographer and definitely cares about low light/ISO performance and AF for the wedding part of her business.)

As Nikon has proved with the D3S, sports and news photogs don't care about higher megapixels if the high ISO is stunning.
 
As a Nikon D3S shooter I find this Canon release as great news. It will push Nikon to go that extra step. I don't care how much the Nikon costs when it comes out, I will get one and give the D3S to my daughter. This is a great day for camera enthusiasts.
 
IC3D said:
wowzers, car money! :D
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That's alright - my D3S was $7100. :eek:

Nikon costs when it comes out, I will get one and give the D3S to my daughter
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Does anyone really need that much more than what a D3S offers? It's already pretty good. I'm interested to try a 1DX, but I won't be purchasing one.
 
Flash SWT said:
I think they'll be pushing the 5DIII as their new "studio" body. As you mentioned you don't need weather shielding inside. If they continue to improve the high ISO performance and maybe boost the AF ability it would be great. (My wife is a wedding and portrait photographer and definitely cares about low light/ISO performance and AF for the wedding part of her business.)

As Nikon has proved with the D3S, sports and news photogs don't care about higher megapixels if the high ISO is stunning.
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Who knows what Canon has in mind for the 5dIII or whatever they'll label it. If it's the "next generation" 5D, the II was a new step in a combo still and video camera and is used for landscape photography as well, so, IMO, I don't think the next 5D will solely be a "studio" camera. It'll probably be priced more than the 5DII and have an updated AF system and updated video that could be used for multiple purposes for the "not-so-professional-photojournalist-sports/wildlife" photographer. Time will tell, but it'll probably be mid to late 2012 before Canon let's us know for sure. I'd love to hear from them sooner but I just can't see it that way. Hope I'm wrong.
 
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