Can't believe it!!!

Discussion in 'Mac OS X Lion (10.7)' started by Asclepio, Aug 9, 2011.

  1. Asclepio macrumors 6502a

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    New brand MBA air of my friend (just arrived yesterday) , screen saver on, i pressed a key to resume, the computer ask me the password... ok.
    I shut down, turn on it and press option, boot for RECOVERY PARTITION:
    in to DISK UTILITY - Selected the HDD and ERASED... and it erased the entire Hard Drive without ask me password, itunes account or whatever!!!
    It was system error or what?
    This is INSANE.
     
  2. Intell macrumors P6

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    That's no different than walking up to any post 1999 Mac with a Mac OS Installation dvd, booting from it, and erasing the drive.
     
  3. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Your friend needed a firmware password in place.
     
  4. Asclepio thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Wow this is most secure system on earth... it can been erased in 2 steps "without any physical support" good to know.:eek:
     
  5. aristobrat macrumors G4

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    Didn't gain any access to your friends data, did you? Sounds secure to me.
     
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  7. Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

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    Did your friend ask you to erase the hard drive on their brand new MBA? If you were messing around with my computer and did that you wouldn't be a friend of mine for very long.
     
  8. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Any physical access means the "security" game is over. Troll along now.
     
  9. Asclepio thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Lion askin your itunes account for reinstall the OS and didn't asking nothing for erase it??
    with all this story of only digital download, security, no dvd drive blah blah.. it seem simple STUPID.
    The MBA was brand new he didn't lost any data anyway.
     
  10. Tearabite macrumors regular

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    True, the word STUPID does belong in this story.
     
  11. Asclepio thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Your right, this story of Recovery Partition is the STUPID thing that apple made.
     
  12. stevenlangley1 macrumors regular

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    ^^^^This is what i was wondering while reading your post. Care to enlighten us?
     
  13. SideStepSociety macrumors 6502

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    Yeah! How dare Apple add a recovery partition to make clean installs and recovery easier! The bastards.

    :rolleyes:

    Also, pretty sure it didn't erase the entire HD. That would be like trying to eat yourself.
     
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    This can be done easily on any computer that doesn't have some sort of firmware password (open firmware, bios, efi, etc). Set one and there's no more worries.
     
  16. MattInOz macrumors 68030

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    Pretty sure it only deleted the directory structure.
    So if the guy is quick and not cheap Data Recovery maybe possible.
    Friendship recovery is going to be much much harder.
     
  17. BlaqkAudio macrumors 6502

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    Agreed. Go look at all the OP's pasts posts about Lion, they're all moaning about how Lion is a downgrade over SL.
     
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  19. AppliedMicro, Aug 10, 2011
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    AppliedMicro macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, I believe you wouldn't need any installation media on OS X at all. You could just into single-user mode and delete everything you want, couldn't you? In any case, you can definitely make the system unusable and delete user data - which in effect is no less of a problem to the user.

    The recovery partition helps users to reinstall their system, restore, and possibly salvage files without needing installation media. That's a good thing in my book. Granted, because it works with a nice shiny GUI, it makes deleting things easier. Albeit only slightly so.

    But as I said, deleting "everything" on a Mac is nothing that hasn't been quite easily possible before* - provided you have physical access to the machine and no firmware password is set.

    I could tell you in literally two or three sentences how to startup any Mac OS X installation and delete any data you wanted.
     
  20. baryon macrumors 68040

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    If you have PHYSICAL ACCESS to a computer, you can do anything with it, no matter how well it's protected. You could simply remove the hard drive and throw it out the window, in 2 simple steps.

    To really protect your data, encrypt it. People will still be able to erase it, but they can't access it. Have an off-site backup to avoid such problems.

    To avoid people booting your computer, set an EFI password that won't allow running anything on it or booting anything (not even the OS install disk). They can still physically take out your hard drive, though.

    Computer security is generally not made to protect against people who have access to your computer.
     
  21. AppliedMicro macrumors 6502a

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    An even simpler 1-step solution would be: Throw the whole computer out the window. :p

    Which Time Machine, being Apple's own backup solution, isn't really, I might add. Especially if stored in the same physical location as the computer (same room/apartment/house) and backups are made only once in a while...

    A combination of a small USB drive and something like Dropbox or iCloud can work well for important files that one currently works on on the go (college paper/thesis, etc.). If it's sensitive data, there's still the issue of trust and access by others, so one might want to encrypt it.
     
  22. Steve's Barber macrumors 6502a

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    Warning: Geezer "going down memory lane" alert...

    This whole thread reminds me of the late 70's, early 80's when retailers like walmart sold PC's (the DOS days). My friend would go into all the demos, boot into another partition and format the "C:" drive rendering them all useless. It wasn't long after that when retailers finally protected them via firmware security.
     

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