can't get the latest beta...

Discussion in 'macOS Sierra (10.12)' started by maco55, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. maco55 macrumors member

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    I'm on beta 5 16A312a, wondering why I'm not getting the latest beta in app store?
     
  2. fischersd macrumors 601

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    You didn't say which path you're on (developer or public).
    PB7: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C/softwareupdated/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.SUCatalogDataManager/o/031-74353

    DP8: /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C/softwareupdated/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.SUCatalogDataManager/a/031-74355

    Those are the paths to where the .dist file will be located for the latest beta update. If you don't have the directory (and the .dist file within it) then your software updater isn't working properly.

    In terminal, at the command prompt, issue the command sudo softwareupdate --list

    Which Mac are you using?
     
  3. maco55 thread starter macrumors member

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    MBP 2015, public beta

    Can't find these folders...
     
  4. fischersd macrumors 601

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    You did copy/paste them into Finder, right? On the menu, Go, Go To Folder, then paste it in. Subfolders underneath are hidden to keep people from breaking things.
     
  5. tywebb13, Sep 1, 2016
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    tywebb13 macrumors 68020

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    That is not beta 5. It is public beta 7. That IS already the latest beta. And that is why you can't see the update in the mac app store. It is already up to date.

    Yours has a slightly lower build number than the version you get via updates (16A313a) because it was installed via the full installer.

    They are virtually identical and so there is no need to update 16A312a to 16A313a.

    Just wait for the next update to come out before attempting to update the system.
     
  6. maco55 thread starter macrumors member

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    "folder can't be found"
    --- Post Merged, Sep 1, 2016 ---
    Ok, didn't know that.
     
  7. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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  8. fischersd, Sep 5, 2016
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    fischersd macrumors 601

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    Yeah. I really shouldn't have let that one go. You're like an old dog with a shoe. The examples that you gave actually didn't lead to the paths utilized by software update manager. The examples we provide DO.
    Sorry that it doesn't fall within the temp folder you're looking for.
    And regarding your example you cited with the permissions. If you want to go down that path and view the permissions as root, so you'll see that there are varying ownerships as you delve down, be my guest.

    Not wasting any more time discussing this with you. Do what you like.
     
  9. grahamperrin macrumors 601

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    @maco55 please:
    1. start your Mac once in safe mode
    2. restart the Mac normally.

    If there is an issue with cached data for App Store, then that one safe boot should quickly and reliably clear the offending data.

    Splitting hairs: the explanations that I offered were never intended to lead to that exact point in the required path.

    Shout (uppercase) if you will, but I ask readers here to respect the statements of the opening poster: "Can't find these folders..." and "folder can't be found". The examples provided by fischersd are not entirely reliable.

    I'm not concerned about how much time is spent with me, I'm concerned about the repeated spreading of seeds of confusion. Seeds such as:
    • directing users to a folder that in some cases truly, properly, can not be found; and then
    • offering misleading diagnoses such as "If you don't have the directory (and the .dist file within it) then your software updater isn't working properly.".
    What's above is necessarily blunt. The earlier topic should have happily cleared up any misunderstanding – note the smiley faces from both parties – it's now disappointing to see the same misunderstandings propagated even further.
     
  10. fischersd macrumors 601

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    Your lack of attention to detail is impressive. You still haven't read that the OP is on the latest beta (as pointed out by tywebb13). There is no update for them to find. There's nothing wrong with their system.

    You are wrong. The path does exist on every system running the Sierra betas - you simply can't seem to grasp that the permissions of the tree aren't recursive from the root.
     
  11. Andropov macrumors regular

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    Not in mine. (Developer Beta 6).
     
  12. fischersd, Sep 6, 2016
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    fischersd macrumors 601

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    Yep, it's there, it's just that you don't have permissions to it (yet). btw - why are you on Beta 6? (you should have updated to Beta 8 by now?)

    Anywho. I think what @grahamperin was trying to elude to (but wasn't being clear) is that customizations are required to give the user access to this directory. (something which I forgot about, as we all patched the C folder back when we were updating the first beta).

    In terminal, type the command csrutil status
    This will tell us if SIP (System Integrity Protection) is enabled. If it is, that means root is crippled and can't change permissions on the directory we need to patch:
    /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C

    If it's enabled, you need to boot in recovery mode, go to a terminal window and type csrutil disable
    Then reboot.

    Once you've booted up, go to a terminal window and type (or copy/paste from here):

    sudo chmod -R 707 /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C

    Now you'll be able to go the package folder for your update to the latest beta update:

    PB7:
    /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C/softwareupdated/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.SUCatalogDataManager/o/031-74353

    DP8:
    /private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/C/softwareupdated/com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.SUCatalogDataManager/a/031-74355

    AND - you should likely boot back into recovery mode and re-enable SIP with the command csrutil enable
    as it's really best that it's enabled to protect your system. (the permissions on that folder already patched, you'll be able to look for packages in the future.)
     

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