Cant use my X as my 7 was on beta software?

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  1. InfernoUk macrumors 6502

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    Hey guys,

    I have a 7 which i develop on so was running 11.2, on previous phones i have been able to buy them, add them to beta software, update them, and restore my old iphones backup.

    Issue with the X is there is no 11.2 beta? So im stuck with a 11.2 beta backup of my old 7 that i cant restore my X with?

    I assume theres no way around this than to put the X back in a drawer and wait for 11.2 to release for it?
     
  2. xxjonoxx macrumors regular

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    Set up as a new phone, download the 11.2 beta, once updated, restore the phone and then restore from backup
     
  3. InfernoUk thread starter macrumors 6502

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    yeah that was the plan as ive done previously, the issue is there is no 11.2 for the X it says updated to latest?
     
  4. MrGimper macrumors 603

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    Downgrade via iTunes to 11.1 (as long as you don't have an AW on 4.2)
     
  5. InfernoUk thread starter macrumors 6502

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    you can downgrade without loosing your data? i assume it needed a wipe
     
  6. Armendegga macrumors 6502

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    I think you can download the 11.1 ipsw, and then option click the upgrade button in iTunes, and choose the 11.1 ipsw.

    I can't remember if you can do that for downgrading, or if you have to option click restore.
     
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  8. MrGimper macrumors 603

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    Backup to iTunes first just to be sure, but many including myself have been able to alt-click "Upgrade" in iTunes and downgrade a point release or so.

    On another thread, someone did this successfully for the same reason, and their AW on 4.2 beta still worked, but I wouldn't guarantee it.
     
  9. InfernoUk thread starter macrumors 6502

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    thanks do i need a file from somewhere for the downgrade? or does alt click let me do it automatically?
     
  10. DaveOP macrumors 65816

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  12. lenard macrumors 6502

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    Make sure you have the beta profile on the X, otherwise it will say its up to date......
     
  13. InfernoUk thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hey guys this was resolved by down grading my old 7 and re doing the icloud backup on release version. Developer profile or not, there is no 11.2 for the X yet and there is no way of restoring it with a 11.2 iphone 7, hopefully this is fixed soon. but the solution was to downgrade
     
  14. Mackneezie macrumors regular

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    Is this happening only when you are restoring from an iCloud backup? I'm planning on setting up like a new phone and just pulling my iCloud info (pictures, contacts, keychain, etc.) down. Hoping I don't run into issues later today when I get my phone.
     
  15. InfernoUk thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I cant confirm but i think its likely just mirror image backups of phones
     
  16. Aidy06 macrumors regular

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    So you were able to use your backup from 11.2 once you downgraded to 11.1?
     
  17. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    This is definitely unusual. I upgrade my iPhone every year and I’m always using the most recent beta as well. There has never been a time over the last 3 or 4 years that I’ve been doing this that I wasn’t able to upgrade the new phone to the latest beta on launch day. Part of me thinks it’s an oversight and the 11.2 beta will be up for the X soon and I should just wait a bit, but part of me is being impatient and wanting to downgrade my 7 plus.
     
  18. coolbreeze2 macrumors 6502a

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    It does not differentaite between devices. It just says 11.2 beta.

    Screen Shot 2017-11-03 at 9.55.17 AM.png

    Maybe I'm confused but wouldn't you just install this on your iPhone X? Then you would do Software Update via Settings on the iPhone X?
     
  19. Armendegga macrumors 6502

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    There are 2 solutions:
    1. Download beta profile, and upgrade X to 11.2 (if available).
    2. Downgrade IP7 to 11.1. Delete old back up, then create new backup now that you're on 11.1.
     
  20. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    You should be fine. It won’t let you restore a backup from a newer OS to an older OS, but if you aren’t restoring the backup then you’ll have no problems.
     
  21. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    This is definitely the normal way to do it, but when we do that it says that the phone has 11.1 and it’s up to date. If you click on ‘see all’ next to iOS restore images in your screen shot you will see there is no image for the X yet
     
  22. Mackneezie macrumors regular

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    Perfect! Thanks for the clarification. I figured that'd be the case, just wanted to make sure.
     
  23. Jimpilot macrumors 6502a

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    You can't load the 11.2 backup to the x with 11.1. Someone had said earlier that as long as it's a version of 11.X it will accept it.
     
  24. Aidy06 macrumors regular

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    Using the second method, if I downgrade now it won’t ask me to restore? So I can go to 11.1, make a backup of my current state and then create a new one?
     
  25. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    I’m not quite sure what you’re asking here. But you will need to downgrade your existing phone, then make a new backup, then restore the new backup to your new X. If you have already set up the X without restoring a backup then you will need to go to settings, then general, then reset, then erase all content and settings to wipe it. Then you’ll be able to go through the initial setup on your X again and restore it from backup at that time.
     

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