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I'm sure there are some legal issues surrounding these "talks" and his public tweets around them. Apple's stock is up 1.71% as of this writing. Seems like a bit of a "pump" if you ask me.
 
Buying back an undervalued stock is a good idea. Icahn must believe it will make Apple stronger and more profitable in the future. This thus makes him some more money.
 
So Icahn invests billions into Apple, asks Apple to buy back it's own shares at a tune of $150 billion so Icahn can make more money? How is this not illegal?

How is it illegal? He's part owner of the company, as such can't he suggest something like this? I'm also a part owner. I could do the same, not that anyone would listen based on my paltry stake.
 
It will increase the value of Icahn's stake in the company. Pure and simple.

Yes, from 0.4% to roughly 0.66%. That's IF Apple goes for the whole $150B that Icahn is suggesting.

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I'm sure there are some legal issues surrounding these "talks" and his public tweets around them. Apple's stock is up 1.71% as of this writing. Seems like a bit of a "pump" if you ask me.

You're sure? But maybe can't put your finger on it? Maybe you're not so sure.
 
I'm upset that Tim is even giving him the time of day given Carl's proven track record. Greed may be the downfall.
 
"We pushed hard..."? "We decided to continue...?" Who else was at this dinner? Or is he just abusing the royal-we? Sounds a tad self-important...
 
:confused: How is a stock buy back not a GOOD idea???

It's a win win for everyone. One of the key indicators of a company doing well and believing they'll continue to do well (or better) is buying back stocks.

If anyone says otherwise, it mean's they've got insider information and intend to do insider trading? Can anyone out there say they are more qualified to comment on apple's financial situation than Tim Cook?
 
Why does Macrumors love using the term "push"? Something is pushing sales here, he pushed for anything there.

Is it native english? Ok, I'm far from being a native speaker, but using push for everything sounds strange and ungrammatical to me.
 
Tim Cook is now in danger of undoing all that Jobs has achieved at Apple, in RECORD TIMING.

I hope Tim Cook and Apple's Board wise up soon -- if not, it would be all too late and this would be the beginning of the end for Apple.

Even as an Apple shareholder, I cannot tell Tim Cook how to act as a mature CEO, who to have dinner or lunch with, or whether spending most of his time as CEO slavishly defending iPhone's screen size is appropriate or not. But seriously, what is he thinking? Having dinner and courting a guy like Icahn.

Does he even have any clue about Wall Street and Icahn?

Just look at Dell if Cook is clueless and wants to have a preview of what Apple would be like having someone like Icahn on board in a couple of years time.

I already corrected you in the last thread about bringing up the Dell transaction and it seems you are being willfully ignorant or just intellectually dishonest. Dell was already going private before Icahn's involvement and he pushed for a higher purchase price so that the common shareholders didn't get fleeced by Michael Dell and Silverlake.

This is not manipulation, this is not insider trading, this is not illegal. Anyone who suggests as such simply does not understand the realities of the market. Tim Cook is free to disregard Icahn's advice but, given Apple's extremely high cash flow AFTER investing in R&D for the future, a larger buyback seems like a pretty good idea.
 
Stock Buyback is when a company uses its cash to buy back a portion of the outstanding shares in the company. This means that the share of the company held by the public decreases and the company becomes less public-owned and more private-owned.

Actually, not really. The company is just a publicly owned as before. The only difference is that each remaining share of stock represents a larger slice of the company's earnings. The only way a publicly owned company becomes privately owned is if ALL of the shares are purchased by the company or another entity.
 
The fact that he's publicly announcing his request tells me there is a strategic nature to all of this. Announcing the dinner beforehand, announcing what he requested at the dinner. Don't be naive people. Even Tim Cook is in on this show.
 
Disliked this Carl person at the first sight of his photo. A seemingly goody-goody investor. What the hell is he keeping in his deformed mind? Is this some sort of conspiracy? What a disgusting wretch! Or should I call him a son of what...
 
I think it would be really interesting to see them take the company private.

And how do you think they can manage to do that? Why do you think they [Apple] would want to do that?

I don't think Apple WILL go private, but I am pretty sure they would LOVE to be a private company again and do whatever the hell they like and think is best, not having to satisfy, calm down and defend themselves to the stockholder every two days etc. pp.
 
First step toward privatization. Not saying that's bad or good.

Not really. It makes sense to do it when the cost of equity is relatively high to cash

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It's sickening really

Really? Shareholders own the company. If they can't talk, who should?

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I'm sure there are some legal issues surrounding these "talks" and his public tweets around them. Apple's stock is up 1.71% as of this writing. Seems like a bit of a "pump" if you ask me.

Yes. This is material non public information, and should not be disseminated by a tweet. At least in the UK, the FCA (equivalent to the SEC) would start an investigation
 
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