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CBS Confirms Plans for Full HTML5-Based Video Offerings
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That is but one (very selective) answer of many. Not every app pertains to the web.
Again, that is but one of many reasons. (And so what anyway, if that is one of them?)
Since you seem so bent on targeting the "T.O." in this CBS thread, it strikes me odd that I can't find a single post from you in the appropriate place:
The moneyworks sites cool interactive rollovers do not work on my iPad either. But it is cool on my laptop. I guess its a matter of taste.. I prefer and enjoy well designed art and interactive experiences. The site you showed does very well represent direct to the point content and probably works well for all users to quickly get on all platforms. I just think the web would be be extreamly boring if all sites were similar to that. Analogy: Its like we built "project housing" to be efficient and server a purpose but It makes the world a ugly and horrible place to live. I prefer elaborate designed architecture that looks better and makes the world a more enjoyable place to live.. There is a time for direct to the point information and a time for rich experience and visuals to stimulate the senses.
Harsh. and Incorrect in my opinion. Flash does allow one to link to another page on the web and pages inside of a flash website can be directly linked to from other sites on the web as well if made correctly. "deep linking" has allowed this for a while.
Using things the way they were not intended to be used has been the starting point and crutch to a wonderful thing called creativity. People experimenting with what they have to create new and original experiences. Records were not intended to be scratched and sampled yet people did it and created hip hop.
Calling some of the richest interactive experiences on the web stupid and not legitimate is quite some slanderous statement. I do not claim to be some web history superstar who can judge and jury whole swaths of the internet as stupid but I can appreciate a rich web experience made in flash. As far as some technical definition of what is a website and what is not I am not interested in.. As far as working as a web designer/dev I think you should have to appreciate this http://wonder-wall.com/
Using things the way they were not intended to be used has been the starting point and crutch to a wonderful thing called creativity. People experimenting with what they have to create new and original experiences. Records were not intended to be scratched and sampled yet people did it and created hip hop.
Calling some of the richest interactive experiences on the web stupid and not legitimate is quite some slanderous statement. I do not claim to be some web history superstar who can judge and jury whole swaths of the internet as stupid but I can appreciate a rich web experience made in flash. As far as some technical definition of what is a website and what is not I am not interested in.. As far as working as a web designer/dev I think you should have to appreciate this http://wonder-wall.com/
So many moronic statements, in so little space. Stupid is right!
Some of the largest companies in the world have sites done entirely in Flash. I suppose you've never visited an entertainment site, or a movie site, or a sports site, or a fashion site.
There are different tools for different purposes. But you obviously have not evolved enough to figure it out.
I'm so disappointed by all the Mac users here who just think about the battle between Apple and Adobe and are shouting "Die Flash Die" or "Apple is winning". You people have obviously no idea what you are talking about.
Flash is so much more than just an interactive video player.
Some websites decide to use the built in resources of HTML5 to stream video in the future because HTML5 won't requiere any 3rd party tool like Flash to stream video.
Just because browser are aiming to use an alternative for video streaming doesn't even closely mean that Flash will die. Obviously you people don't know what flash is used for if you think playing video is all it can do.
Flash is so much more than just an interactive video player.
Some websites decide to use the built in resources of HTML5 to stream video in the future because HTML5 won't requiere any 3rd party tool like Flash to stream video.
Just because browser are aiming to use an alternative for video streaming doesn't even closely mean that Flash will die. Obviously you people don't know what flash is used for if you think playing video is all it can do.
So many people skipping over the part where this is for the iPhone/iPad only, as they're closed platforms so the lack of content protection is less of an issue.
Any general purpose computing platform? Still getting Flash.
Phazer
Any general purpose computing platform? Still getting Flash.
Phazer
HTML files can be read from local storage, so there is no requirement that a network be connected to run HTML "apps".
Much of this thread is about HTML5 vs. Flash - I replied to a post that said:
so I would think that the appropriate place to reply is in the same thread.
I just want to know where I can go educate myself on building my site in HTML5. My site could use a refresh. I have kept flash out of it simply to let users that lack flash to be able to enjoy it.
The way I view HTML5 is nothing but future proofing myself now. The only thing I use flash for is galleries I send to clients so they can proof pictures.
If anyone knows of any good resources, chime in.
Thanks
The way I view HTML5 is nothing but future proofing myself now. The only thing I use flash for is galleries I send to clients so they can proof pictures.
If anyone knows of any good resources, chime in.
Thanks
I think it would be a bonus if Fox couldn't be seen with my iphone.
Err whats with all the Fox haters? You dont like House, 24 or Lie to Me?
Youre missing out.
First - check the status of the HTML5 standard, and the browsers that support it. (Hint -- a: it is not a standard, it's still being defined, and b: none.)
Second - there is no second. The answers to the first step should make it clear that HTML5 is not ready for prime time.
However, I apologize if your question was how to learn more about HTML5 so that you'll be prepared when the standard is ratified and a significant number of browsers support it.
Right . . . you replied to that post by expounding some grand theory that the "exact" "real" reason for no Flash in iPads has to do with the AppStore, and you further claimed that any other rationale was just a "fabricated" "push".
So yes, it does seem strange that you sat so silently throughout the very thread wherein those other reasons were clearly spelled out... offering the proper venue to present your disputes. Instead, you choose the comfort of a different topic (here) in which to revise history.
I would think that if anyone had some valid points to make along those lines, then that would have been the perfect place.
Try taking off your fan blinders, and Yahoo! for "steve jobs lies flash".
You'll see stories like:
There are a lot of stories on the web accusing the TO of fabricating his anti-flash rant - not just Aiden.
(These stories were on the first page of results for 6.5 million matches for "steve jobs lies flash".)
First off, a lot of entities besides Apple think that Flash needs to be replaced. So this isn't a "fanboy" issue (unless you're looney enough to believe that the Free Software Foundation are fond of Apple). Also, it's no secret that Linux users have long been left in the lurch by Flash's "development" (or lack thereof). So... to make this out as strictly a grab for money by Steve Jobs is just prevaricating insincere rhetoric.
No, i think you resorted to the f-word because you're out of steam here. Yes, i know all about those pages (and more besides
). No doubt people who earn their keep by or otherwise have something invested in Adobe's proprietary software want to see it prevail. Again, my point remains: you should have pulled these shenanigans in the other thread. [or at least tried to.
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Again, my point remains: you should have pulled these shenanigans in the other thread. [or at least tried to.
Your point is moot - had Marksman made his post in that other thread, my reply would be there also.
But he didn't, and I didn't.
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First off, a lot of entities besides Apple think that Flash needs to be replaced. So this isn't a "fanboy" issue (unless you're looney enough to believe that the Free Software Foundation are fond of Apple). Also, it's no secret that Linux users have long been left in the lurch by Flash's "development" (or lack thereof). So... to make this out as strictly a grab for money by Steve Jobs is just prevaricating insincere rhetoric.
No, i think you resorted to the f-word because you're out of steam here. Yes, i know all about those pages (and more besides
Again, my point remains: you should have pulled these shenanigans in the other thread. [or at least tried to.
Agreed - apparently, his intent here around here is focused on dissent and instigation, toward Apple.
You're right. I don't own an iPad (and I never will). My post was meant to point out the irony that the video announcement was actually a flash video. Sorry, sarcasm is often hard to spot, my fault.
I'm not a Flash developer, either. I'm not designing web-pages at all. I'm just pointing out that killing a technology without proposing a viable alternative seems like a weird move to me. Especially, since openness is certainly not Apple's problem (H.264 is protected by patents, so it'll be a challenge for open source projects to support it), their problem is that they don't control Flash.
Apple once represented free-thinking and dissent - but it seems that spirit has been lost in favor of following the proclamations of the great leader.
Here we are in the CBS thread... and Aiden's hitting on Steve again? Seems you forgot to read that link to the FSF which i furnished. You know... the one that proves Apple isn't the only significant anti-Flash advocate on the planet.
In fact, it is precisely by rebelling against the status-quo "standard" which Flash supposedly represents that Apple once again proves they are the real revolutionaries. We're beyond "proclamations" now... the Jobster has taken actions to actually get stuff done. If anything, Flash lovers should thank him for gracing Adobe's tuchas with his Reeboks. (even engineers in Adobe's mobile department left because of the drag-ass mentality there).
What exactly motivates you to post these half-truths anyway (in the wrong thread no less)?
Just laying out more astroturf then? [that sig is getting as tiresome as the rhetoric which usually squats above it.]
There is a huge difference between using flash in a website for specific functionality and building an entire website out of flash.
Do you think flash is a more rich programming environment for games then the Iphone OS?
I don't care if you want to make a game in flash and put it inside a real website.
I am talking about people making entire websites, wholly from flash. That is monumentally horrible.
Why?
rPath's rBuilder is a VM management server. Its client is a website (https: on port 443).
The client is entirely written in Flash - the whole website is in Flash. See some screenshots at the bottom.
Instead of being something "never" to do, it can be very smart to build an entire website out of Flash.
I have no opinion. Flash runs on far more systems. There's almost always a tradeoff between portability and peak optimization.
While there are some examples of horrible Flash websites, that doesn't make Flash bad.
There are some bad apps written in Objective-C - should that be banned?
