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Daring Fireball's John Gruber has penned an interesting piece about Apple's CDMA-based iPhone 4 that has been rumored to be coming to Verizon as soon as this coming January. According to Gruber's sources, the device, which carries an internal code name of "N92", has reached the "engineering verification test" (EVT) stage of development, the point at which prototypes are moving through the final steps of the testing process to ensure that they function as intended.
I don't know anything about negotiations with Verizon, and I doubt anyone does other than the highest-level executives at both companies. But I do know that engineering-wise, the wheels are turning on N92, the CDMA variant of the iPhone 4. It's certainly not in production yet, and hasn't reached DVT status (device verification test - like Gray Powell's infamous stolen unit), but it is, a few little birdies claim, at EVT (engineering verification test). That's one step below DVT, which is one step below production. So it's right about where you'd think it would be if it were scheduled to go on sale in January. The CDMA iPhone is no longer a cold storage, keep-it-alive-just-in-case-we-need-it project.
Gruber qualifies his statement by acknowledging that a CDMA iPhone is not yet a "sure thing", and even if so, not guaranteed to be coming to Verizon, citing Sprint or other international CDMA carriers as potential partners for the device.

He also notes that now is about the time that Apple will have to begin committing to full-scale production for such a project if it is planning a January launch as rumored, and consequently leaks are likely to begin appearing from Apple's manufacturing partners who need to be brought on board. Increasing claims in recent days have been suggesting just that, providing the best evidence yet that a CDMA iPhone may finally be becoming a reality.

Article Link: CDMA-Based iPhone 4 at 'Engineering Verification Test' Stage?
 

likemyorbs

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not that i will ever switch to verizon, but im glad ill have more people to facetime with. now all apple needs to make is some form of bbm for iphone users.
 
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Reelknead1

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Apple is just like VW with bring things into production. I will believe it when i see it. I'm not against it though, like another person already said its just more people to facetime with. That and maybe it will relieve some of the stress off at&t's network.
 
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miki66

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i thought people are refering cdma as old and soon to be abandoned:confused:why is apple still dong this business?
 
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SkippyThorson

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Thank God!!!

I don't want one at all, as I'm totally happy with AT&T...

...but the endless Verizon rumors will end soon! :D

Let's hope Apple isn't testing it in a 3GS case this time, and that none of the testers set it down anywhere.
 
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ThomasJL

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Isn't Verizon planning to roll out GSM-based LTE next year? If so, why is Apple creating a product that will drastically lag behind literally every GSM-based LTE phone that Verizon will offer next year?
 
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cvaldes

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i thought people are refering cdma as old and soon to be abandoned:confused:why is apple still dong this business?
Those people are wrong about the "soon to be abandoned" part. Even though Verizon is in the midst of building out their next-generation LTE network, they still have hundreds of millions of devices on their CDMA network. It is likely that they won't be able to turn out the lights on their CDMA network for 10-15 years.

If Apple does release a CDMA iPhone next year, in the future they will probably release a combination CDMA/LTE iPhone. In places where there is no LTE coverage, the handset would fall back on the existing CDMA network.

Is CDMA old? Yes. Is it useless or facing an imminent shutdown? Certainly not.

The lesson here: don't believe everything you read.
 
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landscapeman

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LTE is not GSM based, it is backward compatible with HSPA and CDMA. But if it comes to Verizon I will say good bye Blackberry. I think ATT will be a world of hurt if they release the iPhone to all carriers. Bad service and even worst customer service.
 
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likemyorbs

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ok but what are we going to do about the whole "surf and talk" issue that verizon apparently is not capable of?
 
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applefanDrew

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Isn't Verizon planning to roll out GSM-based LTE next year? If so, why is Apple creating a product that will drastically lag behind literally every GSM-based LTE phone that Verizon will offer next year?


They are rolling out LTE data next year. CDMA will still be used for voice until 2012. At that time, voice on verizon will be rolled over to the LTE standard.
 
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Brinkman

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Good news for ATT users bad news for Verizon users :eek:

Hope this free's up our network!
 
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ThunderSkunk

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"not guaranteed to be coming to Verizon, citing Sprint or other international CDMA carriers as potential partners for the device."

Hey I know, how about not forcing us to be kitty-in-the-middle of another exclusive apple/carrier circlejerk?! Oh but that's not the way we do it in this country. Disgust.
 
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sinsin07

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I don't want one at all, as I'm totally happy with AT&T...

...but the endless Verizon rumors will end soon! :D

Let's hope Apple isn't testing it in a 3GS case this time, and that none of the testers set it down anywhere.

Your not out of the water by a long shot. The boards will be filled with Verizon vs ATT. MR will probably have to make a ATT and Verizon Sub forums. There will battles anew my friend.
 
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