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CDMA iPhone 4 Sales Below Apple's Expectations?
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Then why is this guy saying the iPhone 4 could be sold well into 2012 at the current sales level ?
Seriously, the older the iPhone 4 gets, the further away the competition is. I doubt Apple can milk that cow for much longer.
You also get a lot of people on here looking at the US Apple Store and seeing the iPhone 4 at $200 then checking their own store and seeing it priced around 500 Pounds or Euros.
They don't understand that the US price doesn't include sales tax and requires signing up for an expensive 2 year contract but their own price includes tax and is for a factory unlocked, contract-free phone.
It would be really weird if Pegatron don't get a lot more information, and sooner, about Apple's product cycle than people reading tech blogs. The earlier released expected numbers were most likely already based on a new iPhone being released later this year.
Also, potential buyers of iPhones aren't scouring tech blogs for rumors about when the next iPhone will be launched. Nor do I see salespersons advice them to wait until September.
Also, potential buyers of iPhones aren't scouring tech blogs for rumors about when the next iPhone will be launched. Nor do I see salespersons advice them to wait until September.
I don't really think the iPhone 5 will really change the numbers of the in the market share to much. It will give iOS a slight jump for about a month then it will sink back. The real thing that will prevent people from changing is stuff like apps. If a person already paid for apps they are likely to stay so they can still have access to those apps. And with android apps purchased on one phone can go to another on the same google account. Not to sure if apps from the app store are like this.
Many people have gotten androids just to have an iPhone like phone. Some of them will jump at an iPhone because its an iPhone others have gotten use to android and will be spoiled by it. They may purchase an iPhone and take it back later because many of the features they love are not available. (Notifications, Customization, Google sync, File system and etc.). So they will be addicted to android.
Because it is cheaper? Which it in some ways is. But if you include the two year plan in the total cost, then you really have been screwed.
And it's already old today, and after two years, it's even older.
This.
More importantly -- why get locked into a 2 year service agreement to a 3G iPhone when there are 4G phones available?
You might not need or want 4G/LTE right now, but why limit yourself when the NextBigThing might require a high-speed connection.
The reason I drop so many calls is that most of my phone calls are made on the drive home from work and AT&T has several dead zones along that drive. It's not like I'm out in the boonies, either. I'm never more than a couple of miles away from an interstate.
The thing that pisses me off more than anything is the fact that I'll look at the phone immediately after dropping the call and see 3-4 bars of 3G signal. I think AT&T's towers are just overloaded or poor quality. I'm well aware that it isn't the phone's fault, which is why I want to switch to Verizon. But I refuse to pay to switch to a new carrier just to get a phone that is 10 months old and has a well-known problem with its antenna. Not to mention the fact that almost every other manufacturer will have a 4G compatible phone by the time Apple gets around to producing one.
I don't want to lock in a 2 year contract on already obsolete technology.
This comes to prove that the majority of users actually aren't that dumb... They are smart enough to wait a couple of months for a new/better product... Good for them... I love Apple but the cdma iP4 did come too late...
I like iphones, but I am really considering a droid,
2 VZW droids release today the 3G Droid Incredibile 2 and Droid Charge LTE 4G both have unlimited data and allow up to 10 mobile hotspot connections and oh mobile hotspot is totally free and unlimited till june..... very tempting!
C'mon apple give us a LTE iphone for us folks in the big cities with LTE coverage!
iPhone 4 is pretty but obsolete
I'm an Apple fan, but the truth has to be told: a) 3.5" is TOO small to be practical. I have a Motorola DEFY with a 3.7" display, and even then, the on screen keyboard is not large enough in portrait mode, at least 4 to 4.3" is vital. A larger display is also easier on the eyes when reading lengthy texts. b) Lack of camera shutter release is a major and idiotic decision. You cannot take self portraits, further it is not possible to simply pick up the phone (as you can with some Android and even WP7 handsets) and press the camera button to fire up the camera and shoot away without needing to hit an icon on the 'desktop' first. c) Lack of standard MicroUSB port means having to rely on Apple cabling - forget the cable and you're hosed if no one else has one. d) Call quality is not good enough for serious use due to the design flaws. Yes, it may be a superb gaming and multimedia phone, but I know many people with iPhones and have owned a 3GS, and when talking to them, the call quality is not as good as other brands, further, they lose signal more easily. (Here in the UK.) e) Reliance on iTunes is another hindrance. You feel chained to your main computer. With an Android phone, you are liberated.
Again, I'm an Apple fan, I have an iPad and desktop Macs, but the design flaws in all iPhone models have made that platform too much of a liability.
Let's hope iPhone 5 features ThunderBolt, a larger display, a dedicated camera shutter release and that iOS 5 removes iTunes from the equation.
Consumers are getting savvy thanks to the enlightenment (and lower cost) that Android delivers. Google are keeping Apple in check, and that's good for us consumers!
I'm an Apple fan, but the truth has to be told: a) 3.5" is TOO small to be practical. I have a Motorola DEFY with a 3.7" display, and even then, the on screen keyboard is not large enough in portrait mode, at least 4 to 4.3" is vital. A larger display is also easier on the eyes when reading lengthy texts. b) Lack of camera shutter release is a major and idiotic decision. You cannot take self portraits, further it is not possible to simply pick up the phone (as you can with some Android and even WP7 handsets) and press the camera button to fire up the camera and shoot away without needing to hit an icon on the 'desktop' first. c) Lack of standard MicroUSB port means having to rely on Apple cabling - forget the cable and you're hosed if no one else has one. d) Call quality is not good enough for serious use due to the design flaws. Yes, it may be a superb gaming and multimedia phone, but I know many people with iPhones and have owned a 3GS, and when talking to them, the call quality is not as good as other brands, further, they lose signal more easily. (Here in the UK.) e) Reliance on iTunes is another hindrance. You feel chained to your main computer. With an Android phone, you are liberated.
Again, I'm an Apple fan, I have an iPad and desktop Macs, but the design flaws in all iPhone models have made that platform too much of a liability.
Let's hope iPhone 5 features ThunderBolt, a larger display, a dedicated camera shutter release and that iOS 5 removes iTunes from the equation.
Consumers are getting savvy thanks to the enlightenment (and lower cost) that Android delivers. Google are keeping Apple in check, and that's good for us consumers!
1) As people said, it was an "old design" when most people not expect a new iPhone release every summer.
2) They released a 3G iPhone as Verizon is releasing LTE devices. I wouldn't buy any 3G phone today and be locked in for 2 years.
Now add the fact that Verizon customers (myself included) never knew when to expect a verizon iPhone, and sort of gave up waiting. Those points above are not nearly enough reason to do an early upgrade and pay full price for the "older" style iPhone. I'll probably get a Verizon iPhone when I am out of the contract with my Droid X, but that's not till Summer 2012.
I do know a bunch of people that left Verizon for the iPhone that said they will come back, but are not going to pay those astronomical ETFs to do it.... especially to then buy the same phone they already have.
Wait for a next generation LTE iPhone to show up and people to run out their contract, and I bet a lot of people switch to Verizon.
2) They released a 3G iPhone as Verizon is releasing LTE devices. I wouldn't buy any 3G phone today and be locked in for 2 years.
Now add the fact that Verizon customers (myself included) never knew when to expect a verizon iPhone, and sort of gave up waiting. Those points above are not nearly enough reason to do an early upgrade and pay full price for the "older" style iPhone. I'll probably get a Verizon iPhone when I am out of the contract with my Droid X, but that's not till Summer 2012.
I do know a bunch of people that left Verizon for the iPhone that said they will come back, but are not going to pay those astronomical ETFs to do it.... especially to then buy the same phone they already have.
Wait for a next generation LTE iPhone to show up and people to run out their contract, and I bet a lot of people switch to Verizon.
my iP4 here in my country costed me a whole $0.33 to get on a 2 year contract.
off contract they are around 25% more than US.
Good one!
Not surprised here. When you really look at Verizon-CDMA, why would anyone want that network? Verizon has crippled the iPhone: higher cost of entry, slower network, no data/voice multitasking, no global access, and crippled conference call features (can not add more than 1 and can not drop individual participants).
Exactly. People weren't going to sit around and wait, and not many were willing to switch to AT&T with how great Verizons coverage is, and how poor AT&T's is.
I think Apple waited too long to bring the iPhone to Verizon. By the time they did many diehard Verizon customers had just bought Android alternatives. I think Apple got a little too sucked in by the exclusive money from AT&T, but in the end it might end up hurting them.
Now Apple is going to have to fight to get those customers in the coming year or two, all the while Android is getting better and better.
I'm an iPhone 4 customer on AT&T, but I'm still able to see the big picture. They should have had the iPhone on Verizon a year earlier.
Now Apple is going to have to fight to get those customers in the coming year or two, all the while Android is getting better and better.
I'm an iPhone 4 customer on AT&T, but I'm still able to see the big picture. They should have had the iPhone on Verizon a year earlier.
Name 1 Android device with sales figures like the iPhone 4.
Apple...
You are/were 1 to 2 years late with putting out this Verizon iPhone.
Android has gained adoption...
Don't worry, you will be fine in the long run - a Verizon LTE iPhone 6 will get your sales kicked in within the Verizon market. I know I will be going back to an iPhone when it happens.
Keep in mind Apple approached VZW first, and when they were turned down, Apple then went to Cingular(Now AT&T).
Forget the sales numbers.
I find it so damn funny that thousands were crying over not having Verizon. Now there's hardly anything positive from those whiners.
I find it so damn funny that thousands were crying over not having Verizon. Now there's hardly anything positive from those whiners.
HAving moved from an iPhone 3G to an HTC Desire then recently to an iPhone 4, I have to say iOS is just a slicker, faster (in operation), more straightforward phone operating system. Android doesn't suck but it's a slapped together fiddle-fest by comparison.
However, people now see a 10 month old iPhone VS. ungainly 4.3 inch, dual-core, Android superphones and, as we know in the tech world, big numbers usually mean bigger sales.
Apple doesn't need to worry about Android getting big (it's going to dwarf the rest as you can get a low-end Android phone on a £15 contract these days) but does need to stay in touch with the top-tier Android phones else it can not longer bask in a 'Mercedes of phones' status.
This means faster updates (ideally a 4inch '4s' should have been out by now) and, radically, sqeezing GSM functionality into the iPod Touch making it a 'phone if you want it to be' and thus tackling the Android low-end while still being a premium product.
Also, iPhone didn't need CDMA. America needs less sucky GSM networks.
However, people now see a 10 month old iPhone VS. ungainly 4.3 inch, dual-core, Android superphones and, as we know in the tech world, big numbers usually mean bigger sales.
Apple doesn't need to worry about Android getting big (it's going to dwarf the rest as you can get a low-end Android phone on a £15 contract these days) but does need to stay in touch with the top-tier Android phones else it can not longer bask in a 'Mercedes of phones' status.
This means faster updates (ideally a 4inch '4s' should have been out by now) and, radically, sqeezing GSM functionality into the iPod Touch making it a 'phone if you want it to be' and thus tackling the Android low-end while still being a premium product.
Also, iPhone didn't need CDMA. America needs less sucky GSM networks.