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Centrino technology vs ?

I have the Dell D600 that has a Pentium-M (1.4Ghz, fast) and the new chipset...but it is not a centrino...why? cause I wanted 802.11B/G (for AE, which I have with my 12" pBook) instead of Intels 802.11B. There is no such thing as a Pentium-4m that is also a Centrino...but there are Pentium-4m based laptops that have WiFi of course.

Wifi has been available for PCs for a long time as well...but just not built in to every new Pentium-M based laptop like Intel has done. The good thing about Centrino notebooks/ Intel is that they are making WiFi mainstream...and that will benefit Mac users as well once hotspots are all over the place. Unfortunately, Apple made a commercial in 1999 that showed the Airport base as a UFO...when they could have been doing what Intel is doing now...showing "real world" uses.
 
So here's a question. Does anyone think apple or any other 3rd party vendor will develop a card to replace apples original airport cards to bring them up to "g"? Or maybe even build bluetooth onto it as well? Would they be waiting for the final draft of the "g" standards to do something like this? I'm asking because I bought a TiBook in November, 2 months before the AE came out, and I already have an Extreme base station. Is it a matter of not being able to run those speeds through the existing card bus, or just a matter of redesigning the card?
 
Sure, there's a lot of dumb WIn users out there, and the stories realted in here are amusing.

But let's remember when we read things like "Macs have had 802.11b for five years and Centrino has only been out for, like, a week" that PC laptops have not just recently become wirelessly networkable. The 'new' part of it is the integration, that's all.

Apple may have beaten them to market with this sort of thing, but not by as much as some seem to think.


Edit: oops, I just noticed that JSRockit said pretty much the same thing.
 
Originally posted by mactastic
So here's a question. Does anyone think apple or any other 3rd party vendor will develop a card to replace apples original airport cards to bring them up to "g"? Or maybe even build bluetooth onto it as well? Would they be waiting for the final draft of the "g" standards to do something like this? I'm asking because I bought a TiBook in November, 2 months before the AE came out, and I already have an Extreme base station. Is it a matter of not being able to run those speeds through the existing card bus, or just a matter of redesigning the card?
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Does anyone know if this cam happen?
 
My friend has a AE 12" PB and clearly the wireless range sucks, my ibook can get full signal in where he can't even see the station.

The centrino can probably match or kick the ibook's ass in battery life if not speed, the powerbooks are going downhill, the only thing to left to brag about is...what the 17" screen..

Well apples got looks, and thats whats important to alot of us, if we care for speed and true power we'd be using a PC for ages.
 
Originally posted by Raiwong
My friend has a AE 12" PB and clearly the wireless range sucks, my ibook can get full signal in where he can't even see the station.

The centrino can probably match or kick the ibook's ass in battery life if not speed, the powerbooks are going downhill, the only thing to left to brag about is...what the 17" screen..

Well apples got looks, and thats whats important to alot of us, if we care for speed and true power we'd be using a PC for ages.
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The iBook gets the best reception of any Apple notebook.

The Pentium-M processors (1.3Ghz and up) are definitely more powerful than the G3 900Mhz...but the iBook will still beat some Centrinos in battery life.
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
The iBook gets the best reception of any Apple notebook.

The Pentium-M processors (1.3Ghz and up) are definitely more powerful than the G3 900Mhz...but the iBook will still beat some Centrinos in battery life.
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i dont think so, possibly. every review ive seen of the centrinos have battery life much better than the ibook. even the worse rated laptops had the same battery life as the ibook. and the best, which i saw was the toshiba laptop, had 7 hours of battery life.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
i dont think so, possibly. every review ive seen of the centrinos have battery life much better than the ibook. even the worse rated laptops had the same battery life as the ibook. and the best, which i saw was the toshiba laptop, had 7 hours of battery life.

iJon
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My Dell D600 gets around 3.5hrs (yes, i know this from actual use, not a review)...and there are others that get around the same...some peoples iBooks get 4-5hrs. It really comes down to how you use it though....but, that equals worse in my opinion. The IBM T40 gets 7 hours as well. The Toshibas in question are huge...saw them yesterday...they have bigger batteries as well...I believe.
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
My Dell D600 gets around 3.5hrs (yes, i know this from actual use, not a review)...and there are others that get around the same...some peoples iBooks get 4-5hrs. It really comes down to how you use it though....but, that equals worse in my opinion. The IBM T40 gets 7 hours as well. The Toshibas in question are huge...saw them yesterday...they have bigger batteries as well...I believe.
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ok, but your right, this is just what people have said, i would have to use each one before i make a serious comment. i was just basing my reviews on my pc world, who doing same tests between the pc's and mac's the centrinos got much more, with the dell being the worse (same battery life you stated) and toshiba being the best and everyone else in the middle.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
ok, but your right, this is just what people have said, i would have to use each one before i make a serious comment. i was just basing my reviews on my pc world, who doing same tests between the pc's and mac's the centrinos got much more, with the dell being the worse (same battery life you stated) and toshiba being the best and everyone else in the middle.

iJon
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Yep...the Dell is the worst...but still good...my 12" pBook gets 2.5-3hrs under regular use... what did PC world say the iBook gets...or the 12" pBook?
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
Yep...the Dell is the worst...but still good...my 12" pBook gets 2.5-3hrs under regular use... what did PC world say the iBook gets...or the 12" pBook?
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pc world gave them both great reviews. they said 2-3.5 hours. and before the pc's were barely making that much, most of the time barely breaking the 2 hour barrier. but now with centrino you got fast computers and great battery life, what i dont know is if apple is worried at all.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
pc world gave them both great reviews. they said 2-3.5 hours. and before the pc's were barely making that much, most of the time barely breaking the 2 hour barrier. but now with centrino you got fast computers and great battery life, what i dont know is if apple is worried at all.

iJon
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I hope they are worried.
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
I hope they are worried.
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i agree as well. before it was pcs had the fast processors and low battery life. apple has slow computers and high battery life. now the pc world has the best of both worlds. and pc companies are learning how to make pcs smaller and more compact although they are still far behind.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
i agree as well. before it was pcs had the fast processors and low battery life. apple has slow computers and high battery life. now the pc world has the best of both worlds. and pc companies are learning how to make pcs smaller and more compact although they are still far behind.

iJon
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Now if PC companies can figure out how to make their stuff as beautiful as Apples...and that real GPUs should be in every laptop (like Apple does)...then Apple might have a real problem.
 
That will take a while, considering they will never remove the Windows XP sticker
 
Originally posted by Raiwong
That will take a while, considering they will never remove the Windows XP sticker
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I heard Apple was going to slap a "IBM 970 inbedded" sticker on their new laptops after the switch.
 
Apple is ahead of centrino, up to g while everyone else is discovering b.

Centrino advertising is marketing galore, luring in blank new users into thinking that you get wireless every where.

But Apple's advertising is rediculously low in Australia, for those who know there are not many ads showing their wireless technology.

Apple is jumping into the pool first, but it's not making a splash.
 
Originally posted by Wardofsky
Apple is ahead of centrino, up to g while everyone else is discovering b.

Centrino advertising is marketing galore, luring in blank new users into thinking that you get wireless every where.

But Apple's advertising is rediculously low in Australia, for those who know there are not many ads showing their wireless technology.

Apple is jumping into the pool first, but it's not making a splash.
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well i would gladly take a faster and better battery life while sacrificing 802.11g. I have been playing with with my airport extreme for a while and whenever I transfer files I'm never 50 feet from the Base Station so I never get g speeds. and considering g isnt finalized and the base station does have some annoying bugs ( although apple is doing a good job, 4 firmware updates so far). so far b and g havent been much different, and better battery and faster processors definently wiegh it out.

iJon
 
My Pentium-M (1.4Ghz) based Dell D600 has 802.11G...so just because Intel doesn't offer it as part of the Centrino package yet...doesn't mean PC manufactuers don't offer it.
 
Originally posted by iJon
well i would gladly take a faster and better battery life while sacrificing 802.11g. I have been playing with with my airport extreme for a while and whenever I transfer files I'm never 50 feet from the Base Station so I never get g speeds. and considering g isnt finalized and the base station does have some annoying bugs ( although apple is doing a good job, 4 firmware updates so far). so far b and g havent been much different, and better battery and faster processors definently wiegh it out.

iJon
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I believe that ay further away than 50 feet, it will drop down to b speeds.
 
Originally posted by Wardofsky
I believe that ay further away than 50 feet, it will drop down to b speeds.
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i know, isnt that what i said?

iJon
 
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