CES 2019: Ring Debuts New Door View Cam, HomeKit Still Not Included

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    Ring, which was purchased by Amazon last year, today debuted its latest line of home security products. The Ring Door View Cam, its newest doorbell option, is the most notable.

    The Door View Cam is designed to replace the viewfinder or peephole built into a front door, and while it doesn't require drilling or permanent door modifications, it does require the removal of the existing peephole.


    Ring's Door View Cam fits into the empty space of the viewing hole, filling the space on both sides of the door. It features a rechargeable battery, motion detection, an impact sensor to detect knocking if the doorbell isn't pressed, two-way talk, and 1080p HD video that supports door activity detection, person detection, night vision, and more.

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    In addition to providing a video feed, the peephole the new Ring camera replaces remains functional. Ring says that the Door View Cam is ideal for apartments and rental locations because of its easy installation.

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    The Ring Door View Cam will be available in the United States later this year for $199. Ring also plans to release it in UK, Germany, France, Netherlands, Norway, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, Denmark and Finland.

    Ring is also adding new accessories to its Ring Alarm security system, including a $35 smoke and carbon monoxide detector, a $35 flood sensor, and a $30 add-on siren, along with new outdoor lights.

    All of Ring's products work with Alexa, but despite promising HomeKit for some of its video doorbell devices, Ring is not adding HomeKit compatibility to any of its new devices. The new Ring Door View Cam, like other Ring doorbell options, does not work with HomeKit.

    Article Link: CES 2019: Ring Debuts New Door View Cam, HomeKit Still Not Included
     
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    I wish some journalist would hold their feet to the fire about what in the hell, exactly, is going on with the promised HomeKit support. Many of us bought into the Doorbell Pro and Floodlight Camera because they promised support. But we didn't think they would just indefinitely promise support with no actual support for years. For now I have cobbled together a system to at least connect them to other HomeKit accessories to trigger things like my WeMo switches when someone approaches my door or backyard at night, but it would be nice if I could use Siri to bring up cameras, answer doorbells, call my kids in the backyard, etc. It would also be nice if they could add HomeKit support for the Ring Alarm as well which I got for Christmas. Would be great to disarm my system by raising my Apple Watch and saying "Disarm my system."
     
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    Great. This will certainly simplify the install. Too bad actually that Apple didn't purchase Ring and use it to expand the HomeKit platform. But then again, I'm not sure how really serious Mr. Cook is about anything not specifically related to iPhone.
     
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    Why don’t you demand answers yourself? Ask them why they are dragging their feet on Twitter or some other public venue instead of here where they never will see it?
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    LOL meanwhile every other article on the front page is about HomeKit and AirPlay 2 flooding onto other brands’ products. Whatever.
     
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    LOL meanwhile every other article on the front page is about HomeKit and AirPlay 2 flooding onto other brands’ products. Whatever.[/QUOTE]

    Which is really great to see. But Alexa was able to build a dramatic lead over Siri / HomeKit for a reason.
     
  6. justperry macrumors G3

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    Wish something like this would be available for an apartment block.

    I have an apartment, the front door is about 30 meters from here, a floor lower, the intercom isn't that bad but it's fairly dumb, no connection to the internet, there's a module available but it's expensive and the app is not that good, brand is Urmet.
     
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    If I want something in a product and it's not there I just won't buy it, simple.
     
  10. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    As in letting you know who is ringing your doorbell, if something was delivered/dropped off at your door, etc.?
     
  11. mikethemartian macrumors 6502

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    It’s a joke.
     
  12. EatinPonies macrumors member

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    I completely agree - but years ago, we needed to get a video doorbell and it was clear that Ring had the best offering. Promised HomeKit support was just the icing on the cake, really, and it made the decision a no-brainer.

    Now, however, the Ring Pro has serious competition and I see at CES there are other companies bringing good hardware to the market *with* HomeKit support while Ring is still mum on answering their promise. Customers are seriously just going to jump ship -- as we should -- and it serves Ring right.

    I seriously don't know how Ring will get through CES this year without a class-action lawsuit.
     
  13. codyliger macrumors newbie

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    It’s just the fact that it was headlined at WWDC like they had been working with Apple closely and was super close to having it finished. That’s why I bought it. Their customer service is horrible and they have a way about not addressing any real world issues people have with their products.
     
  14. timborama macrumors 6502

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    No HomeKit, no problem. Too many other (better) options.
     
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    Probably because they will provide the same copy/paste crap they have been telling us for the last 2+ years.
     
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    Agree... for something like home automation, you are really at a disadvantage limiting yourself to HomeKit. I recommend the SmartThings hub. Works great with your Apple stuff, as well as practically anything else out there.
     
  17. MJA74 macrumors newbie

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    Apple doesn’t care about home automation. I had to get an Amazon echo dot to fill the gap sad!
     
  18. tjtennispro macrumors newbie

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    I do that every month. They offer you a refund to go away while maintaining support is coming.


     
  19. k.alexander macrumors regular

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    How did you do that? What did you do? Curious. Thanks!
     
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    Maybe because I already have repeatedly for years and always get the same answer? Twitter, email, phone—it doesn't matter Kaibelf. Ring is being a bunch of asshats about it. Many people both here in the forums and on Twitter have asked as well and they always have the same canned response. What do you want me to do, show up at their corporate headquarters? Pretty sure I would get arrested. No idea why you would assume that a comment on MacRumors was my first resort. They need some big journalists to ask them about this.
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    See above. If you Google those terms there are guides.
     
  21. nsayer macrumors 6502a

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    Many, many people have done so. They've been ignored and Ring has continued to just say that it was "planned" and would be available "soon." It's reaching Lockitron or DKF levels of vaporware at this point.
     
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    I've given up on waiting for Homekit supported devices. Either Apple isn't doing enough to push/help adoption or vendors just don't care for it.
     
  23. DracheMitch macrumors newbie

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    Because the HomePod has been such a complete failure, HomeKit just isn’t a priority for device manufacturers.

    There’s also no advantage to using HomeKit as a consumer, and the Home app is both a mess and has almost no features. It’s easier to use SmartThings or Echo to manage home devices, mainly because worrying about that dumb HomeKit code on everything is maddening.

    The lack of Siri on third-party speakers is hurting HomeKit. I don’t have to buy a Google Assistant device from Google or an Alexa device from Amazon. They’re also not tied to be being phone accessories like the HomePod is.
     
  24. audiophilosophy, Jan 7, 2019
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    Putting too much emphasis on only the iPhone is one of the biggest problems with Tim Cook’s leadership philosophy. He’s a real bean counter. He doesn’t seem to realize that the “ecosystem” is part of what could help drive iPhone sales. Steve Jobs understood the value of the ecosystem, and he created ancillary products to support it (even if they weren’t big sellers on their own, they supported the sales of other Apple products). Cook, on the other hand, kills off things like the Airport routers, and apparently he’s letting HomeKit rot on the vine. There’s plenty of room for improvements and advancements with carplay, but that’s just stagnant as well. If Cook doesn’t go, in about 10 years all of us Apple diehards are gonna find ourselves left in the dust by the competitors who are making advancements with their own, separate ecosystems. I’ve been pretty firmly planted in the Apple ecosystem for 10 years, and I don’t look forward to the day I get jealous of an ecosystem that is offered by some other company. Apple should really start making their own video doorbells, but I doubt that will ever happen. Cook thinks buying Beats, a substandard fad headphone brand, is a good move. He could have put Apple in a position 5 years ago to basically own the camera doorbell market, but just like Balmer, he’s shortsighted.
     
  25. mrow macrumors 6502

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    My building has a virtual doorman so I don’t really need this but I want it so I’m going to buy it anyway. I’m going to wait for the inevitable Prime Day or Black Friday/Cyber Monday discount though.
     

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