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while away from home you cannot use the August app to lock, unlock, or see door status unless you have a connect. That’s the entire purpose of the connect.

You are 100% incorrect. Here I am, at work. Both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are disabled (not that it matters, since I’m not home). I don’t own any August Connects. And look, the August App works fine remotely, using my Apple TV 4K as the bridge. This has been a feature forever, so I don’t know why you keep maintaining this doesn’t work.
 

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In most of the U.S., building codes say something along the lines of "Egress doors shall be readily openable from inside the dwelling without the use of a key or special knowledge or effort."

Because, you know, fires.

Turning the key sitting that's sitting in the lock is functionally equivalent to turning the handle of a deadbolt.

but yeah, anyone who can't reliably remember to have the key in the lock at bedtime shouldn't install a double-key deadbolt on an egress door.
 
Turning the key sitting that's sitting in the lock is functionally equivalent to turning the handle of a deadbolt.

but yeah, anyone who can't reliably remember to have the key in the lock at bedtime shouldn't install a double-key deadbolt on an egress door.
If you have the key there you defeat the purpose of requiring the key, so yeah, you then have to remember to put the key in any time you, or anyone else, is in the house.

Better off putting bars on the windows if you are paranoid about someone smashing and entering. Of course, if they can smash a window and reach in to open the door, they can probably smash a bigger window and enter through that.

So just use a regular deadbolt and don’t have your family burn to death, is my advice.
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You are 100% incorrect. Here I am, at work. Both Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are disabled (not that it matters, since I’m not home). I don’t own any August Connects. And look, the August App works fine remotely, using my Apple TV 4K as the bridge. This has been a feature forever, so I don’t know why you keep maintaining this doesn’t work.
I can play the screen shot game too. It does not work. Yet I *can* see my august with homekit.
 

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If you have the key there you defeat the purpose of requiring the key, so yeah, you then have to remember to put the key in any time you, or anyone else, is in the house.

Better off putting bars on the windows if you are paranoid about someone smashing and entering. Of course, if they can smash a window and reach in to open the door, they can probably smash a bigger window and enter through that.

So just use a regular deadbolt and don’t have your family burn to death, is my advice.
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I can play the screen shot game too. It does not work. Yet I *can* see my august with homekit.

I see you can play the screenshot game, too. Except it appears you’re losing this particular game by not speaking to August to resolve your own personal technical issue. I suggest you get on the phone to August support. In addition, you may have a configuration issue on whatever custom OS you’re running there (what’s up with your signal bars?).


For anyone just joining this thread: if you have an Apple TV 3 or newer, you do not need an August Connect for remote access (which by the way is one Connect required per lock - madness). One Apple TV 3 or newer within range of your locks’ Bluetooth will act as a HomeKit and August app bridge without any Connect required.
 
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All locks are there to keep honest people out, if someone wants in your house, they are getting in...
As with ALL laws (a lock is a personal-implemented law), they don’t prevent crime from happening. They set a standard for behavior and a means to define and punish deeds society has decided are too harmful to allow. Laws serve as a deterrent by letting everyone know if they do the crime, there will be a potential punishment involved. So it’s always a false argument to say there’s no reason to have a law about X because only honest people will obey it or be deterred by it.
 
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If you have the key there you defeat the purpose of requiring the key, so yeah, you then have to remember to put the key in any time you, or anyone else, is in the house.

Better off putting bars on the windows if you are paranoid about someone smashing and entering. Of course, if they can smash a window and reach in to open the door, they can probably smash a bigger window and enter through that.

So just use a regular deadbolt and don’t have your family burn to death, is my advice.
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I can play the screen shot game too. It does not work. Yet I *can* see my august with homekit.

Just to put this to bed, it’s right there on August’s own web site:


Does Siri work remotely?
Yes, if you have a 4th generation apple TV within Bluetooth range of your August Smart Lock that is setup to work with HomeKit. You can then use Siri remotely or operate remotely through the August app.
 
If you have the key there you defeat the purpose of requiring the key, so yeah, you then have to remember to put the key in any time you, or anyone else, is in the house.

Better off putting bars on the windows if you are paranoid about someone smashing and entering. Of course, if they can smash a window and reach in to open the door, they can probably smash a bigger window and enter through that.

So just use a regular deadbolt and don’t have your family burn to death, is my advice.

I'm touched by your concern, really, but you're showing that you've constructed a scenario in your mind which simply isn't the reality.

Thanks so much, but I’ve got this.
 
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I have the August Lock Pro. I disabled both my Bluetooth and WiFi. Via the August app, I was able to unlock the door. I have never used the bridge. I wonder if somehow the August app is sending the commands thru HomeKit as a fallback or something if it sees it present there. Just pure conjecture on my part.

That's possible. Maybe if you never set up the Bridge in the first place, it sends it always through HomeKit.
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Again, this is not true. With my two August Smart Lock Pros, with both BT and Wi-Fi off (I don’t own any August Connects), I’m able to use the August app without any issue.
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Yes it is true. I've tested it lmao is that what America is about now?
See the comment before where someone points out that it might have to do with the fact that maybe it's because you never had a Bridge and so it sends the commands through Home Kit by default, but not me because it set up a Bridge.
 
That's possible. Maybe if you never set up the Bridge in the first place, it sends it always through HomeKit.
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Yes it is true. I've tested it lmao is that what America is about now?
See the comment before where someone points out that it might have to do with the fact that maybe it's because you never had a Bridge and so it sends the commands through Home Kit by default, but not me because it set up a Bridge.

Honestly, I give up. I’ve already proven to you it does work, shown you August’s own web site stating it works, and yet you still argue it doesn’t work. I’ll agree with you on one thing: I agree it doesn’t work for you.

Done here.
 
If you think Schlage has a bad battery life, don't move to August. My old Schlage would last about a year on a set of batteries. My first-gen August lasts about 3 months.
Thanks for the heads up.
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4AAs last about 3 months. Mine has worked flawlessly.
Yeah, 3 to 6 months is all I can get from the Schlage. These things should have a LiPo battery and charge port. Replacing the batteries is a real pain, it takes 10 to 15 minutes to replace the batteries since you gotta practically also disassemble the entire thing.
 
shown you August’s own web site stating it works

August must have a different version of their website for Canada and the US then, because here's a screenshot that states that the Bridge is required for remote access (which we both agree it technically isn't since HomeKit allows it without the Bridge), but that's not what we don't agree on, it's about remote access through the August App itself.
So clearly, even the August website is inconsistent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Whether or no...

I got one of their locks last year. With a bridge. The lock itself is Bluetooth only. The part that is HomeKit compatible is the bridge. That said, I love it. It works flawlessly, as long as the bolt slides in and out of the doorframe fairly smoothly.

I hate keys and am glad to be down one more. Don’t ignore the battery low message!! I did once and was locked out. Fortunately someone was home.

Still amazed cars haven’t gone truly keyless. My 2008 Toyota Highlander doesn’t have a physical key to start it, but you do have to have a fob on you for the car to operate. Pisser.
I too love my August smart lock. Love that we can see when the kids are coming and going and how we don't need keys.

My car is a Model 3 so I don't have a key for it. It's a little thing but man do I love not having to carry my keys all the time. The only reason I have keys ever is for my gym tag.
 
I had double cylinder deadbolts on both exterior doors at my old house because both of them had large windows. When we were home I would leave the key in them and they would act like a standard deadbolt, most of the time we didn't even bother locking the deadbolt while we were home though, just locked the doorknob. I would remove the keys when nobody was home. I figured that way I didn't need to worry about not being able to get out if there was a fire, and if someone tried breaking in while I was home it was likely our dog or one of us would hear it. When we weren't home there was no reason to worry about being able to get out quickly and I had a bit more security in the lock.

Another reason for having a lock both sides, no one is suspicious of someone taking things out of a house/apartment via the front door (with no damage), seeing someone climbing out of a window or exiting via a damaged door with household items does raise suspicion.

Also, you have to balance up quick exit for fire (most adults of average intelligence should be ok, also sensible ones will have smoke alarms with photoelectric and ionization sensors), and security from being broken into at night when you are at your most defenseless.
 
You're confused. The August Lock 3rd Gen is still HomeKit without the bridge: but it's Bluetooth. An Apple TV, HomePod or iPad can be used to talk to it from outside of the home.
The August Bridge is for the remote functionality of the August App, not HomeKit.

and how on earth it’s an Apple TV going to talk to the August lock out side again out side of the room?
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All locks are there to keep honest people out, if someone wants in your house, they are getting in...

keep honest people out? Dude do you even think about what you posted? An honest person would have no inclination entering a door where they are NOT invited in the very first place. Anyone who even remotely thinks of doing so is no longer honest - opportunistic thief.

‘ a lock is there to keep an honest person out’ lol now that would be a great joke to tell thrived in jail, I could hear the roaring laughter in a whole cell lick just now. Heck that makes a great line for a movie script.
 
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For anyone just joining this thread: if you have an Apple TV 3 or newer, you do not need an August Connect for remote access (which by the way is one Connect required per lock - madness). One Apple TV 3 or newer within range of your locks’ Bluetooth will act as a HomeKit and August app bridge without any Connect required.

That does not appear to be the case. I have both an AppleTV 3 and an AppleTV HD I’ve tried in bluetooth range of my August Pro and I cannot access the August app remotely. HomeKit works fine. August app works fine remotely as long as the August bridge is running. (Like others I’ve found that the August Bridge has terrible range for setup and for what it reports, but it works fine in practice plugged in about 20’ away in a better location across the room).

So it may work with an ATV4, as per the later link you posted, but I have not yet seen it work (or seen any documentation indicating it should) with these earlier version ATV’s.
 
Turning the key sitting that's sitting in the lock is functionally equivalent to turning the handle of a deadbolt.

but yeah, anyone who can't reliably remember to have the key in the lock at bedtime shouldn't install a double-key deadbolt on an egress door.

I installed double-key deadbolts in the first house I owned because of window access to the deadbolts. My fire egress solution was to hang a spare key in a well-known location on the way to each door, out of reach of any window.

I haven't bothered since. It's easy enough for a determined burglar to go through just about any window if the door cannot open easily, and even then, barring a reinforced doorframe and striker plate, it's easy enough to kick a locked door open anyway. Hell, if you have one of those doors with a large piece of fancy inlaid glass, it's kind of useless to do more than keep honest people out with your locks.
 
and how on earth it’s an Apple TV going to talk to the August lock out side again out side of the room?
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The Apple TV can communicate with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth HomeKit devices.
When outside the home, the iPhone talks to Apple TV for remote access which talks to August lock using Bluetooth.
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That does not appear to be the case. I have both an AppleTV 3 and an AppleTV HD I’ve tried in bluetooth range of my August Pro and I cannot access the August app remotely. HomeKit works fine. August app works fine remotely as long as the August bridge is running. (Like others I’ve found that the August Bridge has terrible range for setup and for what it reports, but it works fine in practice plugged in about 20’ away in a better location across the room).

So it may work with an ATV4, as per the later link you posted, but I have not yet seen it work (or seen any documentation indicating it should) with these earlier version ATV’s.

Please tell that to @WilliamG
 
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A while ago I locked myself out. I called a locksmith. He showed up and, i am not kidding here, in less than 30 seconds, he unlocked the door without the key. I thought all that stuff on TV was exaggerated. It is not. Someone who wants to get in will get in.

Please, you should not put your family at risk by hindering egress in an emergency.
 
What is the battery life and communication reliability? I have a Schlage lock and the battery lifetime is pathetic. Moreover, reliability is a big problem. Lock often cannot be unlocked when I ask it to.

Apologies, I made a mistake about my lock. I have not been using the app that comes with the lock for months now because it stopped working with iOS 13 and forgot the make. The lock is actually the Weiser Premis, not a Schlage as I erroneously reported earlier in this thread.

Battery life of the Premis is terrible and the response is erratic. Moreover, iOS 13 has been out for months now and Weiser has not fixed the problem. the lock works with the home app but you cannot use any of the features of the Premis app (check battery staus for instance). In fact, there has not been an update to the app or firmware for a couple years. It appears Weiser has abandoned it.
 
The Level Lock looks very interesting indeed ... I wonder about the single battery in the bolt though. My Weiser does not last very long with 4 X AA's.
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The big question I have is the wireless reliability. Will it unlock when I ask it to 99.9999% of the time?
 
The Level Lock looks very interesting indeed ... I wonder about the single battery in the bolt though. My Weiser does not last very long with 4 X AA's.
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The big question I have is the wireless reliability. Will it unlock when I ask it to 99.9999% of the time?

I should hope so! My August Smart Lock Pros both do. That Level lock looks good but it’s undeniably more complicated, both from an installation standpoint AND mechanical function standpoint.
 
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