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Even if most content can't support this level of resolution yet, I say "bring it on!" I recall folks saying a Retina display was overkill for a computer monitor ("your eye can't tell the difference from 24 inches"), apps didn't support it, etc. Now I can't imagine going back to 2560 x 1600.
 
I’ll be in the tv market this summer, dunno if I’ll go LG or Sony

Both are excellent quality with their displays. Are you looking for OLED? (LG worked some issues out with their newer model [C9].

Really, I don’t think you can go with either way. Both manufacturers have excellent chipsets and use quality displays.
 
We can't even get 1080P content consistently and there is 8K.

Most people watch a lot of 1080i and 720p content if they watch any cable/network TV.

People are still watching 480p in decent numbers if the amount of DVDs checked out at the library I worked at is any sign.

I just don't like that TVs seem to be getting physically bigger. 43" is already pretty big for a bedroom and now Sony is offering 48" as their smallest size. I remember when that was considered large...
 
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LOL, the Japanese have been using their cellphones' built-in NFC chips as public transit passes since 2005. When Hong Kong decided to implement NFC contactless passes for their public transit system, they basically just carbon copied JR's Suica system.

Yeah, broadcast 1080 TV in Japan looks miles better than ATSC 1080 here in the USA.

My guess is that 8K Jumbotrons will be set up in the most high traffic pedestrian zones in Japan for the Tokyo Summer Olympic Games, probably starting at the passenger terminals at the country's major airports. Many international visitors will wonder why their country's broadcasters are still offering sh*tty overcompressed 1080i @ 30 Hz.

And let's not even get into broadband speeds in Japan.

Like 60+ Mbps download speeds on a bullet train's complimentary WiFi. Two years ago.
Exactly. My home internet is fiber and has so many problems, I literally told ATT that the internet on the subway in Tokyo was better and he didn’t believe me.
 
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They're also putting out a car too

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We can't even get 1080P content consistently and there is 8K.

Most people watch a lot of 1080i and 720p content if they watch any cable/network TV.

That's so true.

The majority of video content on this planet is still streamed in 1080p. And even when it's "4K", there are so many obstacles in actually getting full 4k. Most people who actually have 4K TV's aren't tech-savvy enough to know how to get optimal resolution. This ranges from internet speeds to cables to a plethora of other factors. Not to mention most movies and TV programs advertised as 4K are nowhere near true 4K. Same as when 1080p was advertised, but you hardly ever got true 1080p (even to this day), unless you were using Blu-ray or equivalent.

8K is a joke. It will be 10, maybe 15 years before people with 8K TV's actually get their money's worth.
 
Apple TV doesn’t even have a display.

LG has a different strategy it seams for this years CES. As part inventor of Next Gen TV (ATSC 3.0), they're going to put ATSC 3.0 tuners in their HDTVs at the CES. These can connect to your home WIFI system and stream 4K video on your iPhone or other smart phone for FREE, no streaming cost. 60 TV markets are converting to Next Gen TV in 2020 they claim and it will still mostly be free TV with some pay options. There will of course be advertising, just like today's American TV. But nearly every TV channel will now be at least 720p or 1080p and some evening network TV will be 4K with many more channels. By 2021, I'll bet the Super Bowl is transmitted live in 4K on Cell phones. A ATSC 3.0 chip is not required, but I'll bet people will want it. Apple will resist and so will Verizon, AT&T, & T-Mobile. But I'll bet the demand for this simplicity and mobile TV in autos and cell phones for live events will be strong. ATSC 3.0 is IP based, so it will strongly compete with 5G for some streaming data usage.
 
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.
 
All of the new TVs offer support for AirPlay 2 and HomeKit.
Dear Sony,
When are you going to release HomeKit for the 2019 models that you promised? An update was released in December but you quickly removed it, what is going on?
 
I wonder if these include ASTC 3.0 tuners like LG's 2020 lineup?

The Sony Press released is linked to the original article. "NEXTGEN TV compatible " is attached to the X900H's description. That is common marketing name for ASTC 3.0. It would be kind of odd if only the most affordable one got it. ( I suspect there were fewer 'whiz bang' adjectives for the X900H, so NEXTGEN got explicitly mentioned. )



Or will get it... the footnote '11' there implies it will be a later software update.
 
LG has a different strategy it seams for this years CES. ..... ATSC 3.0 is IP based, so it will strongly compete with 5G for some streaming data usage.

ATSC 3.0 has an IP ( TCP/IP , 'internet' ) based component, but that is largely a mischaracterization to label it as being primarily IP based. It isn't. It is primarily broadcast TV with better digital tech. (much better/higher fidelity compression (H.265) and more robust digital signal encoding (so less break up and interference) ). You don't "have to" hook your TV to the internet to get a picture. It is broadcast that does not require the internet ( from cable or cell service providers ).

https://www.tomsguide.com/reference/atsc-30-explained

I think the notion that every TV station in the USA is going to run a full scale on demand, OTT (internet) video operation is more than a bit 'pie in the sky'. Most likely the IP portion will be used to gather info for more highly targeted ads ( i.e., make the station more money) then run 'free' video streaming services ( which won't make much more incremental relative income. )
 
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.
I do. I feel their designs are better ..... nearly as important as the screen quality for me, as it is a large object that is not on all the time.
 
That's so true.

The majority of video content on this planet is still streamed in 1080p. And even when it's "4K", there are so many obstacles in actually getting full 4k. Most people who actually have 4K TV's aren't tech-savvy enough to know how to get optimal resolution. This ranges from internet speeds to cables to a plethora of other factors. Not to mention most movies and TV programs advertised as 4K are nowhere near true 4K. Same as when 1080p was advertised, but you hardly ever got true 1080p (even to this day), unless you were using Blu-ray or equivalent.

8K is a joke. It will be 10, maybe 15 years before people with 8K TV's actually get their money's worth.
Yeah, and most of it is actually 1080i, not 1080p unless it’s blu-ray. TV is full of 720p and 1080i...both compressed to hell.
 
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.

Sony has the best out of the box color accuracy. You barely have to mess with the picture settings.
 
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What the heck is a "TV"? Do they mean "display" or "panel"? Or does it really have a RF tuner built-in?

colloquially, a TV is a large display (“large” is also a term with its own ever-shifting definition, of course) that acts as an appliance in people’s homes, meaning that it typically exists as a fixture in a room dedicated to it. a tv includes plenty of hdmi ports, a remote control, and, lately, a competent OS capable of launching multimedia applications. this is my pedantic, descriptivist definition which no one asked for
 
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.
Go to any electronics retailer and look at a Sony BRAVIA next to a competitor's offering of similar specification, and the difference is night and day. If you're talking about electronics in general, their image sensors are also some of the best in the business, and used in many high-end cameras. The PlayStation brand is also as popular as ever not because they're riding on their reputation (remember when most of the market turned on Sony during the initial release of the PS3?), but because they're consistently backing indie developers and actually listening to the needs of gamers.
 
We can't even get 1080P content consistently and there is 8K.

Most people watch a lot of 1080i and 720p content if they watch any cable/network TV.
NO! That's a highly traditional/conservative method of watching from the last century. 4K Dolby Vision / HDR is everywhere on today's platforms - iTunes, AppleTV+, Netflix, Amazon and so on. When you see cable/network TV, it's a complete dinosaur with stale thinking. They will never be the first in today's technology.
 
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The Sony Press released is linked to the original article. "NEXTGEN TV compatible " is attached to the X900H's description. That is common marketing name for ASTC 3.0. It would be kind of odd if only the most affordable one got it. ( I suspect there were fewer 'whiz bang' adjectives for the X900H, so NEXTGEN got explicitly mentioned. )



Or will get it... the footnote '11' there implies it will be a later software update.

I believe ASTC 3.0 requires dedicated tuner hardware so if it says nextgen TV or whatever dumb marketing name they gave it then I assume it is there. Thanks for letting me know.
I’ll still not buy Sony TV’s after the mess that was the last Android Sony TV I had.
 
I have the Sony Bravia A1E, which didn't get the forthcoming AirPlay 2 or HomeKit updates. I'm Curious as to what the functionality is in the Home app for the models that receive that update. I installed HomeBridge and am able to turn the TV off/on and change the inputs. I wonder why they didn't implement this on the A1E. Can someone who installed the update offer some insight?
 
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