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CES 2020: Sony Unveils New 4K and 8K TVs with HomeKit and AirPlay 2 Support

Relentless Power said:
Both are excellent quality with their displays. Are you looking for OLED? (LG worked some issues out with their newer model [C9].

Really, I don’t think you can go with either way. Both manufacturers have excellent chipsets and use quality displays.
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I returned my LG because their HDR implementation was terrible. Vertical bands were popped out even in menus. It wasn’t an OLED, so I can’t speak for that.

I couldn’t stand the Android UI on the Sony TVs. There is no excuse for app icons being pixelated, and the shear number of ads blew my mind. Of course, if you use an Apple TV and never touch your TV remote than it likely won’t bother you.
 
BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
NO! That's a highly traditional/conservative method of watching from the last century. 4K Dolby Vision / HDR is everywhere on today's platforms - iTunes, AppleTV+, Netflix, Amazon and so on. When you see cable/network TV, it's a complete dinosaur with stale thinking. They will never be the first in today's technology.
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I watch all the new streaming platforms...but like I said, sports are in 1080i for the most part. Unacceptable.
 
myscrnnm said:
Go to any electronics retailer and look at a Sony BRAVIA next to a competitor's offering of similar specification, and the difference is night and day. If you're talking about electronics in general, their image sensors are also some of the best in the business, and used in many high-end cameras. The PlayStation brand is also as popular as ever not because they're riding on their reputation (remember when most of the market turned on Sony during the initial release of the PS3?), but because they're consistently backing indie developers and actually listening to the needs of gamers.
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Don’t forget about Sony’s wasting of this hardware with the Android OS designed for lower resolution smaller sized TVs on their premium line and the endless ads crammed into it.
 
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webbuzz said:
"Most notably for Apple fans, LG says the new lineup of OLED TVs will include an Apple TV app, letting users access ‌Apple TV‌+, ‌Apple TV‌ channels, and iTunes video content. In addition to the new 2020 models, LG says the app will also be coming to 2019 and 2018 models later this year, although exact details on which models will be getting the app have yet to be shared."

https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/06/apple-tv-app-2020-lg-oled-tvs/
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Read again clever boy... AIRPLAY

Used bold, got your back.
 
MacBH928 said:
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.
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of course. they have the most attractive design after apple. some of us care about that as much(or more) as we do about the specs that the naked eye cannot see anyhow.
 
Internet Enzyme said:
colloquially, a TV is a large display (“large” is also a term with its own ever-shifting definition, of course) that acts as an appliance in people’s homes, meaning that it typically exists as a fixture in a room dedicated to it. a tv includes plenty of hdmi ports, a remote control, and, lately, a competent OS capable of launching multimedia applications. this is my pedantic, descriptivist definition which no one asked for
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I enjoyed your colloquial description!

The dictionary definition is "a device that receives television signals and reproduces them on a screen." What is a "television signal"? It is a signal broadcast on frequencies from about 47 to 250 MHz in the VHF band, and 470 to 960 MHz in the UHF band. It has to be demodulated and decoded. I'm assuming this new "TV" comes with rabbit ear antennas...
 
Baymowe335 said:
We can't even get 1080P content consistently and there is 8K.

Most people watch a lot of 1080i and 720p content if they watch any cable/network TV.
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Yes but 8k gaming is already possible and will be much more common in 10 years from now. Also streaming advancements are way ahead of network TV standards.
 
As if it wasn't bad enough that they oversaturated an already quite saturated and beautiful Antelope Canyon, but they decided to add a pink/purple gradient. I'm just going to assume that the color accuracy and color uniformity of this TV is absolute garbage and move along. Sony overcharges for OLED compared to LG anyway.
 
dannyyankou said:
Sony’s one of the best in the business. I have an A9G, I watched the Martian in 4K the other night and it was stunning.
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Yes, I have one too—which I chose over the LG C9 because of Sony’s explicit promise to provide a firmware upgrade that supports Airplay 2 and HomeKit “by Q4”. The C9 already had these features available, was $1200 cheaper, and had HDMI 2.1 futureproofing. But the charlatan at Magnolia assured me it was worth it to go with the Sony.

Sure, the Sony’s picture is great; I have an external sound bar and home theater setup, so the sound quality really wasn’t a big issue for me.

Sony finally got around to making the Apple upgrade available on December 3rd, and I quickly installed it—only to have Sony recall it due to serious performance issues. And those issues are staggeringly evident when comparing the picture quality and performance between using Airplay to cast video to my Apple TV vs the TV’s integrated Airplay receiver. And downgrading back to the stable firmware is near impossible.

So Sony still hasn’t fulfilled their promise that was part of their marketing campaign (the product literature on BestBuy still says that the 2019 A9G is AirPlay 2 and HomeKit compatible).

So as I sit staring at this outrageously costly 65” example of gimmicky obsolescence on my living room wall, receiving this breathless news that Sony’s rolling out new models that have the promised capabilities still unfilled on my unit, along with Android 9.0 and a bunch of new features, kinda doesn’t hit the spot.

It rather makes me fantasize about taking my A9G to Best Buy, finding the Magnolia salesperson who duped me, donning him with a big red clown nose, and Airplaying a live feed of a line of A9G owners queuing up to punch it.

There, I kinda feel a bit better!
 
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8K on a 75'' panel? Pointless for a lot of reasons. Provided you actually have uncompressed 8K content to look at (good luck), you'd need to be sitting no further than 3 feet away to see any difference. 4K content is still state-of-the art and hard to come by—most 4K online streaming looks almost indistinguishable from 1080p due to data rate and ISP limitations.

8K is nothing but a useless marketing gimmick, unless you're actually viewing it via hard copy media in a movie theater.
 
MacBH928 said:
Is there any one who prefers Sony TVs? I don't believe they manufacture their own displays. Sony has been out of the electronics game. I believe they are selling on the inertia of 90s brand quality.
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They never got out of electronics, they still make tons of dedicated chips for both audio and video. What they don't make is OLED panel but they do outsource the best damn OLED panel you will find on planet Earth and that is LG made panel same as on high end LG series but Sony engineers their own drivers for it. Sony has the best hardware upscale to 4K I have seen because they have in-house designed processing power for that purpose. 1080p up-scales to 4K beautifully.

Sony still makes high end LCD panels and their Z series 4K/8K LCD series in my opinion is better than anything OLED unless it's reference OLED monitor. It also costs arm and a leg so it's not a common sense purchase.
 
richinaus said:
I do. I feel their designs are better ..... nearly as important as the screen quality for me, as it is a large object that is not on all the time.
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LIVEFRMNYC said:
Sony has the best out of the box color accuracy. You barely have to mess with the picture settings.
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myscrnnm said:
Go to any electronics retailer and look at a Sony BRAVIA next to a competitor's offering of similar specification, and the difference is night and day. If you're talking about electronics in general, their image sensors are also some of the best in the business, and used in many high-end cameras. The PlayStation brand is also as popular as ever not because they're riding on their reputation (remember when most of the market turned on Sony during the initial release of the PS3?), but because they're consistently backing indie developers and actually listening to the needs of gamers.
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alexandr said:
of course. they have the most attractive design after apple. some of us care about that as much(or more) as we do about the specs that the naked eye cannot see anyhow.
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vladi said:
They never got out of electronics, they still make tons of dedicated chips for both audio and video. What they don't make is OLED panel but they do outsource the best damn OLED panel you will find on planet Earth and that is LG made panel same as on high end LG series but Sony engineers their own drivers for it. Sony has the best hardware upscale to 4K I have seen because they have in-house designed processing power for that purpose. 1080p up-scales to 4K beautifully.

Sony still makes high end LCD panels and their Z series 4K/8K LCD series in my opinion is better than anything OLED unless it's reference OLED monitor. It also costs arm and a leg so it's not a common sense purchase.
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Are you guys sure of this or are you going with gut feeling? TV wars has been between Samsung and LG for sometime now. How can Sony have better displays when they actually use the display of the competitor? As for product design, all tvs are just black rectangular slab

As for upscaling, I don't about 4K, but my PS3 upscales DVDs so well...I kind can't tell the difference between it and Bluray! I will give you that! Not sure of other players though.
 
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