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Wish this wasn't curved ...
At large sized ultrawide with a normal viewing distance you want the panel to have a slight curve as the horisontal lines will appear optically straight to your eyes. I'm looking at my 34" curved Mii 1440p secondary display right now and the UI appears perfectly straight to me.

(And I was a staunch anti-curved display before I got mine on a whim to play 144hz games on the old wintendo)
 
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At large sized ultrawide with a normal viewing distance you want the panel to have a slight curve as the horisontal lines will appear optically straight to your eyes. I'm looking at my 34" curved Mii 1440p secondary display right now and the UI appears perfectly straight to me.

(And I was a staunch anti-curved display before I got mine on a whim to play 144hz games on the old wintendo)

I will argue, that you cannot look at 34'' screen with 1440p from a "normal viewing distance".

For me 27'' 5k is just about right at a normal distance a monitor would be (about 60-70 cm). Anything with less ppi is quite hard to look at. 220ppi is almost print resolution, I really cannot understand how anything around 100-140 ppi is acceptable.

This is a Mac issue, where 200ppi displays have been standard for a good number of years. It's just another thing that makes other platforms less appealing for me.
 
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Yeah went through everything with LG. To be Honest I think they may be aware of a few faulty screens as they were happy to replace the screen for £250 out of warranty.
just got to Wait for the lockdown to finish so they can send the engineer out.
I’d still buy another OLED and recommend them without fail though as they are amazing screens.
Glad they are fixing the problem! Our OLED TV is absolutely amazing (identical screen to your C7). I'd never buy any other kind of TV.

I haven't used (or even seen) an OLED computer monitor yet, though.
 
I have the 34" LG 5K2K 21:9 Ultrawide and used to have the Dell U3415W 34" Ultrawide.

The LG I have is 5120x2160 and the Dell was 3440x1440.

If the new LG is like the Dell, offering 5120x2160, then it is lower PPI than my current 34" LG and likely a higher price point.

I think I'll pass. More money for less pixel density...
I’ve been trying to get the 34" LG 5K2K for 2 months but LG seems not to deliver any in France. Waiting for my order.

I’ve been thinking a lot about just getting the ultrafine 5K instead. Are you about your 5K2K?
 
I’ve been trying to get the 34" LG 5K2K for 2 months but LG seems not to deliver any in France. Waiting for my order.

I’ve been thinking a lot about just getting the ultrafine 5K instead. Are you about your 5K2K?
I’m a big fan of 21:9 monitors. I think the 34” 5K2K is a better deal than the ultrafine. Coming from a 34” curved Dell with a lower resolution, the LG is great. My only grip is I use it with 3 separate inputs, and the toggle button to switch inputs is finicky.
 
Just you wait until you turn 50 and your eyes are old and tired.

You will be first in line to buy a larger monitor with lower dot pitch.

And then you will chuckle when snot-nosed brats make similar "I don't recognize other usage case" statements.

But until then, your opinion is vastly superior to mine. And go ahead and try to explain that to your parents. If you're lucky they will look at each other, sigh, and change the subject.
I’m, uh, not sure I understand. When people get older, they tend to prefer larger text. But, no one here demanding 200+ PPI monitors is using them at their native dot pitch. They’re using them with 200% scaling, at which point text is the same size as monitors with half the pixel density.

I don’t know what sort of eagle-like vision I’d need to use my LG 5K at native, tiny text scaling! :D
 
I’m, uh, not sure I understand. When people get older, they tend to prefer larger text. But, no one here demanding 200+ PPI monitors is using them at their native dot pitch. They’re using them with 200% scaling, at which point text is the same size as monitors with half the pixel density.

I don’t know what sort of eagle-like vision I’d need to use my LG 5K at native, tiny text scaling! :D

When people get older, text becomes blurry, that's why they need larger fonts. Also 200ppi becomes pointless for them.

Unless you have well corrected vision (glasses, lenses...).
 
I will argue, that you cannot look at 34'' screen with 1440p from a "normal viewing distance".
To be fair, it's off to the side, so a bit further away than regular viewing distance.
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Vincent Teoh at HDTVTest has a video up about it and he noted that this display is likely not using an OLED from LG Display, but is probably using panels from Japan's JOLED due to it having a true RGB subpixel structure.

As to why it does not have HDMI 2.1 and only a 60 HZ refresh rate, it is a display specifically aimed at movie and animation work and is very much not designed for gaming or media consumption.
 
Vincent Teoh at HDTVTest has a video up about it and he noted that this display is likely not using an OLED from LG Display, but is probably using panels from Japan's JOLED due to it having a true RGB subpixel structure.

As to why it does not have HDMI 2.1 and only a 60 HZ refresh rate, it is a display specifically aimed at movie and animation work and is very much not designed for gaming or media consumption.
Having an RGB vs the usual WRGB subpixel structure could potentially makes this panel a real deal for actual desktop usage. The 48" LG CX which many people thought to use as a desktop monitor has had trouble display crisp text on with Windows or macOS.
 
As to why it does not have HDMI 2.1 and only a 60 HZ refresh rate, it is a display specifically aimed at movie and animation work and is very much not designed for gaming or media consumption.
Yes obviously..but why not?
Why didn’t they make it 120hz to suit both gaming and whatever else?
There is huge deman for high refresh rate OLED gaming minitor in practical sizes..people are using the 48” LG CX but it’s huge and impractical for most and doesn’t look right.a 32” would have been perfect.
 
Yes obviously..but why not? Why didn’t they make it 120hz to suit both gaming and whatever else?

JOLED's current process might be limited to 60Hz. They started as a medical display manufacturer and I am guessing those do not need more than 60Hz. And their first commercial product was a 21.6" 4K panel for the limited-edition EIZO FORIS NOVA and that appears to have been limited to 60Hz, as well.
 
Why are monitor manufacturers so allergic to 200+ PPI? Make a pretty panel with high pixel density and high end Apple users will buy it. You could charge a lot for this. Is Apple sending hired goons around LG and Dell to stop them doing this or something? A baffling gap in the market for a few years now.

There's essentially nothing like a 6K 32" display available that isn't the crazy expensive Apple XDR. Make a regular one for $2000, it would sell like crazy. I'd buy it!

The LG displays Apple sells which are basically the great iMac panels in an LG shell look hideous in my opinion. Not sure why something like this can't exist in an Apple Cinema Display form factor.
YES Thank you! Apple realizes that PPI and brightness are the most important things. But we are stuck in a world where manufacturers are keeping with the ugly fake metal looking plastic monitors ran at 4k.. which isn't enough pixels for 27 even, let alone 32.
 
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Have you tried the pixel refresher on your C7? I have a B7 and the screen got hit by direct sunlight for a whole day, resulting in, effectively, burn-in. A manual pixel refresh (the kind that takes hours, accessed from the advanced settings I think) fixed it perfectly.

For others worrying about burn-in, as I understood it, pixel shifting - on both TVs and monitors - is the standard defence against it, as is why OLED computer displays can exist at all.
Is this actually a big issue? I have a C9 and had a bank of quite large windows across the back of my house with no shades. I would cover the TV with a blanket late in the day during the months of the year that the sun would shine through. Some days I would forget and it would be in full sunlight, but it never really seemed to affect the display quality. Even so, I ended up installing shades and a motor system to control them through HomeKit and HomeBridge with a scheduler, but I've always wondered if I actually needed to (we had been planning to do something like this since moving in before getting the TV so it wasn't a big deal). The pain is trying to get the windows programmed to only close during the time of day when the sun is out there, which is only certain times of spring and autumn and but it's different for both seasons because of when the leaves come in and fall off can affect things too. I think my windows have a UV coating but they aren't tinted. It's a newer house.
 
Why are monitor manufacturers so allergic to 200+ PPI? Make a pretty panel with high pixel density and high end Apple users will buy it. You could charge a lot for this. Is Apple sending hired goons around LG and Dell to stop them doing this or something? A baffling gap in the market for a few years now.

There's essentially nothing like a 6K 32" display available that isn't the crazy expensive Apple XDR. Make a regular one for $2000, it would sell like crazy. I'd buy it!

The LG displays Apple sells which are basically the great iMac panels in an LG shell look hideous in my opinion. Not sure why something like this can't exist in an Apple Cinema Display form factor.
Some others have made valid points about the ability to drive these displays on many devices with a single cable but there's something else that I don't think I saw anyone else touch on: panel manufacturing. I went down a rabbit hole one time about panel manufacturing and why TVs all seem to come in certain sizes like 42, 48, 55, 65, 77, etc. It's about how they can most efficiently cut the displays from their display...ummm...wafers? Not sure if that's the right word. But they make huge sheets of display and have to cut them to size and they want to minimize waste. Different factories make different sheet widths, and different displays can also have different pixel densities and that plays into it. If a new display resolution isn't very common or easily marketable such as 8K then they don't really want a part of it because it becomes so expensive to manufacture at scale that their ROI will be lower because most people won't pay the arm and leg required. I bet that's also part of why the Pro XDR is so expensive. Apple probably has to use smaller PPI display sheets, say for like a 4K 24" display (not sure if the math on that is accurate but you get the gist) and get the manufacturer to cut 32" sheets from it which is how you get 6K from the PPI of a 24" 4K. Well if the sheets are 48" wide then it might be wasteful to cut 32" if they can't fit extra ones vertically on the end (idk if this example works out) but it's a whole thing. I recommend googling it because apparently it's been too long since I read about it to remember all the details, lol, but that gives you a general idea.
 
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Some others have made valid points about the ability to drive these displays on many devices with a single cable but there's something else that I don't think I saw anyone else touch on: panel manufacturing.

Exactly. Vincent Teoh talked about it on his HDTVTest site: essentially the 8.5G substrate that LG uses is large enough to hold six 55" panels with almost no waste, but only three 65" panels with the rest of the mother glass going to waste. This is also the reason LG announced the 48" and 77" together because the mother glass is large enough to hold two of each size, minimizing waste. But since you can only get two of each panel per mother glass compared to six 55", this is why the 48" is almost as expensive (if not more) than the 55" and the 77" is extremely expensive.

LED, on the other hand, is manufactured on a 10.5G substrate which allows eight 65" panels with very little waste and that is why 65" LCD TVs are so relatively cheap. LG was planning to move to 10.5G for OLED and that would have driven down the price of 65" OLED TVs, but those plans have now been likely pushed to the latter half of the decade so for now we are "stuck" with 8.5G which is optimized for 55".
 
Is this actually a big issue? I have a C9 and had a bank of quite large windows across the back of my house with no shades. I would cover the TV with a blanket late in the day during the months of the year that the sun would shine through. Some days I would forget and it would be in full sunlight, but it never really seemed to affect the display quality. Even so, I ended up installing shades and a motor system to control them through HomeKit and HomeBridge with a scheduler, but I've always wondered if I actually needed to (we had been planning to do something like this since moving in before getting the TV so it wasn't a big deal). The pain is trying to get the windows programmed to only close during the time of day when the sun is out there, which is only certain times of spring and autumn and but it's different for both seasons because of when the leaves come in and fall off can affect things too. I think my windows have a UV coating but they aren't tinted. It's a newer house.
I'm not sure it's a HUGE issue, and we may just have been unlucky. I only realised what had happened when I saw that the pattern of burn-in on the screen exactly matched the cross-hatching of the window frame. I bought a fabric cover for the TV after that and keep it on when the TV is off (the cover fits the set exactly, which seemed a nicer solution than a blanket!). It only affects my house in the winter months, when the sun is low and can shine directly in through that particular window.

I got a hell of a fright when I saw it, but like I said fortunately a manual pixel refresh fixed it. OLED screens ARE sensitive to light - our previous set was a plasma and it never had any issues with light in the same position - but I'm happy to take better care of it given the screen is SO good.
 
Why are monitor manufacturers so allergic to 200+ PPI? Make a pretty panel with high pixel density and high end Apple users will buy it. You could charge a lot for this. Is Apple sending hired goons around LG and Dell to stop them doing this or something? A baffling gap in the market for a few years now.

There's essentially nothing like a 6K 32" display available that isn't the crazy expensive Apple XDR. Make a regular one for $2000, it would sell like crazy. I'd buy it!

The LG displays Apple sells which are basically the great iMac panels in an LG shell look hideous in my opinion. Not sure why something like this can't exist in an Apple Cinema Display form factor.
Can't wait until the rumoured smaller Apple monitors are released.
 
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JOLED's current process might be limited to 60Hz. They started as a medical display manufacturer and I am guessing those do not need more than 60Hz. And their first commercial product was a 21.6" 4K panel for the limited-edition EIZO FORIS NOVA and that appears to have been limited to 60Hz, as well.
LG CX OLED TV already supports 4K 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 available in 48” too around $1500.
Also LG is going to make 42” OLED monitor this year with high refresh rate.
 
LG CX OLED TV already supports 4K 120Hz and HDMI 2.1 available in 48” too around $1500. Also LG is going to make 42” OLED monitor this year with high refresh rate.

Yes, but LG uses a WRGB sub-pixel structure where the LEDs generate white light that is then passed through an RGB filter to produce color. JOLED's sub-pixel technology uses three separate LEDS, one each for red, green and blue light. So it might be that driving a single-color (white) sub-pixel structure at higher refresh-rates is easier than a three-color sub-pixel structure.
 
Question is: glossy or matte?

I personally hate that there are no decent 32"+ 4K/5K Displays besides the XDR. The matte ones are so dull in comparison to my iMac that it's not fun to use them
 
I really hope Apple shows us something good this year. Other than the ridiculously priced pro monitor, it's been a while.
 
How does mac os really look on a 4k 32" at 140-150PPI, some tell me it's blurred using scaling as apple work on the 100 / 200ppi pixel doubling. Others say yeah it's fine even on scaling way clearer than the 30" cinema display. Hard to know who's right...

Ideally we'd have?
4k 28"
5k 30"
6k 32"

So 5k 30" would be fairly high ppi? It's such a minefield these days, at the moment I'm sticking with the 30" cinema until I can buy something better and not smaller
 
How does mac os really look on a 4k 32" at 140-150PPI, some tell me it's blurred using scaling as apple work on the 100 / 200ppi pixel doubling. Others say yeah it's fine even on scaling way clearer than the 30" cinema display. Hard to know who's right...

Ideally we'd have?
4k 28"
5k 30"
6k 32"

So 5k 30" would be fairly high ppi? It's such a minefield these days, at the moment I'm sticking with the 30" cinema until I can buy something better and not smaller

No.

4k 24''
5k 27''
6k 32''

This gives you a pretty uniform density around 215 ppi.

 
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