I wonder if this has more to do with a tiered pay system for the web as described here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/05/technology/05secret.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
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CES Keynote by Verizon CEO Stokes Speculation Regarding iPhone Announcement
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Alright, so if, (or when) the Verizon iPhone is a reality, do I have permission to point you back to this thread?
In order for Verizon to get iPhone on it's network, Verizon will have to give up the "house keys" like AT&T did....and Droid and Motorola will have to give up the master bedroom...no way iPhone sleeps on the couch...will Verizon put aside it's love affair with Android to Welcome the iPhone? If so that's more of an indicator than this pending announcement
I'm going to be laughing when January comes and there is no Verizon iPhone announced and the sad thing is that the rumors will then move to june.
This reminds me of people who in history claimed that the world was going to end in 999 AD then it moved to 1999 AD and now to 2012 I'm all for being a dreamer but it's sad why people set themselves up for a disapointment.
Live in reality people don't trust something that you can't verify after all this is the internet and it's been around long enough for us to realize to not believe most things untill you see them.
This reminds me of people who in history claimed that the world was going to end in 999 AD then it moved to 1999 AD and now to 2012
I'm all for being a dreamer but it's sad why people set themselves up for a disapointment. Live in reality people don't trust something that you can't verify after all this is the internet and it's been around long enough for us to realize to not believe most things untill you see them.
These could be correlated to the supposed "iPhone 5 Prototypes" set for January. January could be the debut month for a CDMA ready iPhone which WOULD in fact warrant a design change. Although that would be a royal insult saying that they "Fixed" the "antenna problem" by switching the antenna to be used on verizon. lmao.
I'm on AT&T with an iPhone 4 right now. Anyone know if verizon would be offering to buy out contracts halfway through the period to switch over?
No iPhone on Verizon until 2012. Get over it.
Ivan's keynote will probably hype an Android tablet with 3G on Verizon. No way it will be an iPhone-on-Verizon announcement because that would require Steve. And Steve likes to announce major Apple products *after* CES is over. Just to torture the wannabes with their crapgadgets, since CES is the biggest event of the year for them. They're forced to announce their bad copies of last year's Apple iDevices.
I also think Ivan will announce what he will call "4G" even though it's just the interim speed-bump LTE. The real all-IP all-packet-switched 4G won't be rolled out until 2012, after the 4G spec has been finalized. 4G is still just a technology proposal, and there are two candidates under consideration to become the true 4G: LTE Advanced and 802.16m. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And there's that magic number again: 2012. 2012 will be 5 years after the Apple / AT&T 5 year exclusivity deal began. It will be the year that 4G is actually available. Thus, it will be the year that Apple can build one single phone for the entire world. No need for the complexity of a separate CDMA iPhone assembly line, no need to kludge together CDMA and GSM into a dual-mode iPhone.
Ivan's keynote will probably hype an Android tablet with 3G on Verizon. No way it will be an iPhone-on-Verizon announcement because that would require Steve. And Steve likes to announce major Apple products *after* CES is over. Just to torture the wannabes with their crapgadgets, since CES is the biggest event of the year for them. They're forced to announce their bad copies of last year's Apple iDevices.
I also think Ivan will announce what he will call "4G" even though it's just the interim speed-bump LTE. The real all-IP all-packet-switched 4G won't be rolled out until 2012, after the 4G spec has been finalized. 4G is still just a technology proposal, and there are two candidates under consideration to become the true 4G: LTE Advanced and 802.16m. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G
And there's that magic number again: 2012. 2012 will be 5 years after the Apple / AT&T 5 year exclusivity deal began. It will be the year that 4G is actually available. Thus, it will be the year that Apple can build one single phone for the entire world. No need for the complexity of a separate CDMA iPhone assembly line, no need to kludge together CDMA and GSM into a dual-mode iPhone.
How much more expensive is it to have the hybrid chips? One dollar, two dollars? While $1 may not seem like a lot, you have to multiply it by the number of iphones sold. Even with all of Apple's cash, that's money that could be used to maintain Jobs' private plane.
If Verizon really does get the iPhone next year, I can see Verizon prepping the groundwork and showing they're ready to have the iPhone. However, they would have to leave the actual announcement to Apple.
Personally, I don't think it's going to happen. If Apple wanted to add another company, they can add T-Mobile. They don't need to change hardware. In the future, it'd be easier to get a chipset with T-Mobile's 3G frequency. Of course, I don't know that T-Mobile would be happening either.
You are 100% correct! Why bother to work backwards when you have T-mobile who is already set. And if you are talking about hybrid well Sprint is also there.
I do know that LTE is both in Verizon and AT&T's future. T-Mobile is working on HSPA+ or 3.5G, and Sprint is doing the Wi-Max/Clear thing.
Here is the $50,000 question: Will LTE be so well deployed that the iPhone can rely exclusively on it, as opposed to the current 3G which has to fall back to EDGE?
If LTE is everywhere and replaces the GSM protocol, so much the better. An iPhone would easily work on both AT&T's or Verizon's networks.
If LTE is only in certain places and the phone has to fall back to 3G, EDGE, or even GPRS, you won't be seeing Verizon as a provider. No way, no how. Apple is not going to stick CDMA compatibility that will soon be obsolete anyway in their device.
Here is the $50,000 question: Will LTE be so well deployed that the iPhone can rely exclusively on it, as opposed to the current 3G which has to fall back to EDGE?
If LTE is everywhere and replaces the GSM protocol, so much the better. An iPhone would easily work on both AT&T's or Verizon's networks.
If LTE is only in certain places and the phone has to fall back to 3G, EDGE, or even GPRS, you won't be seeing Verizon as a provider. No way, no how. Apple is not going to stick CDMA compatibility that will soon be obsolete anyway in their device.
That is a good question. At least in AT&T's case, they will be able to upgrade existing towers and outfit them with LTE, which is what I understand to be an evolution of GSM. At least that takes care of future zoning issues and new tower site fiascos but then again, who knows?
All I know is there better be an unlimited data option on LTE!
Well I'm hoping for a verizon iphone, think it will be about the new network If anything I hope my stock goes up!
I'm about ready for some function. If it takes a little V, fine if that is what is needed to make it work. If only some Tesla-on-LSD antenna actually allows phone calls, then so be it.
well anything is possible. but i just don't see anyone else buy steve jobs announcing a new iPhone. we shall see
I should think an LTE rollout, with phones available in certain metropolitan areas, would be a big enough announcement in and of itself. He'll probably feature some HTC Android model as an iPhone-killer.
I think those two ideas are most likely... the already known Motorola 10" Android tablet and perhaps a few LTE/CDMA phones.
CDMA (just as with GSM) will be around for the rest of the decade. Not everyone has a smartphone, nor wants to pay for LTE speeds / battery.
Being GSM before doesn't help.
Because LTE is so different, carriers have to add the same type of new equipment to upgrade existing towers to LTE, whether they were previously CDMA or GSM.
So to prepare for adding LTE, carriers have been upgrading their current towers to systems that support a combination of old radio networks and new LTE... sometimes leaving the LTE part empty for now (especially in ATT's case).