AidenShaw said:
Well, that's not far from truth, if you mean the first company to mass-produce USB-using computers and make them popular...I still see a lot of crappy PCs with PS/2/serial outputs...bleargh.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
CES: Microsoft Music Service and Entertainment
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Well, that's not far from truth, if you mean the first company to mass-produce USB-using computers and make them popular...I still see a lot of crappy PCs with PS/2/serial outputs...bleargh.
PODcasts...
By the way, in the wake of new "iPod killer" announcements at CES, I couldn't help but notice (and laugh) at Creative's "definition" of podcast, which I've found at iPodObserver...please tell me what you think about another piece of ridiculous desperation...Creative, you SUCK even harder now:
"About podcasts and video blogs
Podcasts, short for Personal On Demand broadCast, are audio files you can download into any MP3 player or computer. These audio files are broadcasted over the Internet automatically to subscribers of specific podcast channels. Video blogs are similar to podcasts, and refer to video files instead of audio files."
The source of laughter: http://www.zencast.com/about/
By the way, in the wake of new "iPod killer" announcements at CES, I couldn't help but notice (and laugh) at Creative's "definition" of podcast, which I've found at iPodObserver...please tell me what you think about another piece of ridiculous desperation...Creative, you SUCK even harder now:
"About podcasts and video blogs
Podcasts, short for Personal On Demand broadCast, are audio files you can download into any MP3 player or computer. These audio files are broadcasted over the Internet automatically to subscribers of specific podcast channels. Video blogs are similar to podcasts, and refer to video files instead of audio files."
The source of laughter: http://www.zencast.com/about/
Yeah I saw that too. I wouldn't be surprised if that explanation of word Podcast and what it stands for will actually stick around, science podcast wasn't in any way developed by Apple, it is just Adam Curry just combined iPod and Broadcast. definition by it self is true.BRLawyer said:
Mac_Freak said:
Sorry, I am not saying Apple created it; but to say that PODcast is something defined as shown by Creative's website is untrue and malicious.
Podcast comes from iPod, period. All other competitors will try to modify that, but the origin is clear.
BRLawyer said:
I don't think it is as much about competition as it is about clarifying this term to the consumers. By saying PODcast you imply that this has to do with something that Apple has developed but it is not.
It is not only Creative that is starting to use this term, try Wiki or even google. Personal On Demand braodCast makes much more sense than iPODbroadCAST. Also be carefull about what you read in Wiki, since Adam Curry has edited some of its descriptiopns.
I understand that this was its original name, but just try explaining podcast to somebody and you will see that you will see that people will think iPod and Apple. Remember that it is about what that technology means and does, and not what its name was inspired by.
Remember that iPod won't last forever, so it is better to give Podcast right definition now than change it later.
A nostalgic but critical historical perspective
Perhaps. But I am not just viewing the company through a filter of youthful nostalgia. In the context of its relation to music, in terms of artists, creativity, marketing, etc., it has seriously diverged from its original mission, and the reasons for this are purely, and cynically market driven. MTV is more interested in selling commercials and lifestyle. As a visual showcase for artists, music, and the video medium, it no longer fulfills. It has gotten very dumb.
And as a youth, there WERE a few programs on the channel that were completely idiotic, yet still just amazingly creative - the game show Remote Control comes to mind. There was an American Bandstand-like show in the afternoon with "the black Julie Brown," (who we thought was way cooler than "the white Julie Brown"), that was all the T&A that Dick Clark couldn't get away with on his show.
Being the station now where most of it is centered around patronizing to the whims of the cool kids discussing how hard it is to live in the Real World is just annoying. Want to see a great Real World concept? Put these stupid spoiled punks in a house in the ghetto, which is all they could afford, and then make 'em go out and each get REAL jobs to pay for the rent, pay for their food, and do the stuff that people REALLY have to go through in the real world. I will bet the fireworks would be a lot more exciting than the ridiculous, keeping it 'fo real antics on that piece of garbage show.
MTV sold its soul long ago. MS is, as usual, late to the game.
aristobrat said:
Perhaps. But I am not just viewing the company through a filter of youthful nostalgia. In the context of its relation to music, in terms of artists, creativity, marketing, etc., it has seriously diverged from its original mission, and the reasons for this are purely, and cynically market driven. MTV is more interested in selling commercials and lifestyle. As a visual showcase for artists, music, and the video medium, it no longer fulfills. It has gotten very dumb.
And as a youth, there WERE a few programs on the channel that were completely idiotic, yet still just amazingly creative - the game show Remote Control comes to mind. There was an American Bandstand-like show in the afternoon with "the black Julie Brown," (who we thought was way cooler than "the white Julie Brown"), that was all the T&A that Dick Clark couldn't get away with on his show.
Being the station now where most of it is centered around patronizing to the whims of the cool kids discussing how hard it is to live in the Real World is just annoying. Want to see a great Real World concept? Put these stupid spoiled punks in a house in the ghetto, which is all they could afford, and then make 'em go out and each get REAL jobs to pay for the rent, pay for their food, and do the stuff that people REALLY have to go through in the real world. I will bet the fireworks would be a lot more exciting than the ridiculous, keeping it 'fo real antics on that piece of garbage show.
MTV sold its soul long ago. MS is, as usual, late to the game.
Mac_Freak said:
Sorry again, I am talking about the ORIGIN of the term, and it was based on the iPod, plain and simple.
If you wanna explain the term, you just explain it, telling that "Pod" refers to an old mp3 player that inspired it all...no need to pull acronyms out of your a**...such effort by Creative is just an attempt to take away Apple's brand power and direct it towards something more "neutral"...they went to a dictionary and searched for related words, nothing more than that...which is ridiculous anyway.
Stonecoldcleric
macrumors newbie
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
Interesting that you say "using", not "having". USB ports were common on PCs a year before the iMac was released - but they weren't *used* heavily until good software support came with Windows 98.BRLawyer said:
And that's bad, why? Isn't *choice* a good thing?BRLawyer said:
AidenShaw said:
No, you are wrong. UBS ports were NOT common at all before the iMac...actually they took a long while AFTER the iMac debut to show up "en masse" in PCs...
As for your second remark, if you mean a "Bill Gates kinda choice", no...it isn't good to use obsolete ports in new computers...
AidenShaw
macrumors P6
sorry, you have it backwards
The Intel mobos using this chipset had USB back panel connectors (http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/LT430TX/sb/CS-013451.htm).
Intel and Asus boards in 1997 had USB ports (http://www.whatisnew.com/97/997.html)
Philips release, 1996 http://www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/ic478.pdf
The USB organization says: (http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans3/)
The iMac came in the second half of 1998, so the USB organization says that a PC made a year and a half before the iMac "probably" supports USB, and one made half a year before the iMac "almost certainly" has USB.
So my claim that "USB ports were common on PCs a year before the iMac was released" is not only correct, but it's conservative. USB.org would have said "a year and a half".... Your claim that it was "a long while AFTER" August 1998 is clearly not supported by even a cursory attempt to discover the facts in the case.
As a Lawyer, you should know to check your facts before you declare that someone is "wrong".... 😉
What's wrong with saving USB ports for USB addons, and reducing the chance that one will need a USB hub?
What's wrong with being able to use the PS/2 keyboard that I have, instead of being forced to buy a new one?
What's the harm in having a couple of small connectors that you don't even have to use?
What's wrong with choice?
Intel's chipsets for the Pentium (original, pre MMX, with EDO or FPM, before SDRAM was available) had USB ports. (http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/mature/430.htm)BRLawyer said:
The Intel mobos using this chipset had USB back panel connectors (http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/LT430TX/sb/CS-013451.htm).
Intel and Asus boards in 1997 had USB ports (http://www.whatisnew.com/97/997.html)
Philips release, 1996 http://www-us.semiconductors.philips.com/acrobat/other/ic478.pdf
Philips said:
The USB organization says: (http://www.usb.org/about/faq/ans3/)
USB.org said:
The iMac came in the second half of 1998, so the USB organization says that a PC made a year and a half before the iMac "probably" supports USB, and one made half a year before the iMac "almost certainly" has USB.
So my claim that "USB ports were common on PCs a year before the iMac was released" is not only correct, but it's conservative. USB.org would have said "a year and a half".... Your claim that it was "a long while AFTER" August 1998 is clearly not supported by even a cursory attempt to discover the facts in the case.
As a Lawyer, you should know to check your facts before you declare that someone is "wrong".... 😉
What's bad about having a violet keyboard port and a green mouse port on the back of the PC? (Especially when you have a keyboard with a violet plug and a mouse with a green plug?)BRLawyer said:
What's wrong with saving USB ports for USB addons, and reducing the chance that one will need a USB hub?
What's wrong with being able to use the PS/2 keyboard that I have, instead of being forced to buy a new one?
What's the harm in having a couple of small connectors that you don't even have to use?
What's wrong with choice?
Don't underestimate the 'Soft'. After the pioneer creates the market, the second guy in with the big money does pretty well.
Content will be the key in the vpod/vlog future. Who has it? Will Apple? They can at least strike a deal with Pixar, we know that...
I'm suprised Msoft or Apple hasn't tried to acquire a library. Dreamworks stuff is up for sale...
Content will be the key in the vpod/vlog future. Who has it? Will Apple? They can at least strike a deal with Pixar, we know that...
I'm suprised Msoft or Apple hasn't tried to acquire a library. Dreamworks stuff is up for sale...