CGI in Movies Discussion

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Huntn, Sep 27, 2018.

Tags:
  1. scubachap macrumors member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Location:
    UK
    #51
    Right, I'm going nominate Dragonslayer. I used to be into stop motion and used to always want to try and replicate Ray Harryhausen's stuff (really, really, badly in super 8). So I followed all this stuff closely at the time. It shocked all of us who thought that rubber puppets and scale models of the sort that reached their peak in Clash of the Titans were as good as you were likely to get. It really was a game changer - I'm sure I remember Ray getting very cross in an article about it at the time. (Possibly Starburst magazine?)

    I'm also going to suggest the Bakshi's Lord of the Rings. (1978). I remember this one well, it used animation but traced from live action. (We know it now as rotoscoping.) It enabled battle scenes and used a scale impossible if you were to draw every character and its movements individually. It was an early sort of very early motion capture (albeit analogue in execution.)
     
  2. Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #52
    Clash of the Titans, the original was outstanding, but you have to then remember King Kong (1933). :)
    --- Post Merged, Nov 26, 2018 ---
    Tron was exhilarating.
     
  3. scubachap macrumors member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Location:
    UK
    #53
    Of course... The thing about Dragonslayer was that it was obvious after seeing it that the writing was on the wall for the 50 year old technique of using conventional stop-motion as the go to way of doing monsters etc (I think Industrial Light and Magic were involved...)
     
  4. Scepticalscribe Contributor

    Scepticalscribe

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Location:
    The Far Horizon
    #54
    And am somewhat surprised that nobody has mentioned Shrek. A terrific movie, which told a great story, featured stunning visuals and came complete with compelling characters.
     
  5. Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #55
    Shrek is an outstanding movie. However I think that I have been focusing on examples of where CGI has been incorporated into live action movies versus animated films which now incorporate CGI.
     
  6. Scepticalscribe Contributor

    Scepticalscribe

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Location:
    The Far Horizon
    #56
    Thanks for clarifying that; I must say that I thought the use of CGI (and the use of lighting) both excellent in the Shrek (and that is, leaving aside the terrific cast, great script, superb story, and outstanding animation).

    My mother loved that movie, I remember how we both laughed our way through it - an intelligent, funny, clever, (and, at times, moving) and beautifully put together movie.
     
  7. Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #57
    In both animations and live action, there are just things that can be done with CGI that are impossible to do otherwise. There was the highway chase scene in The Matrix Reloaded (2003) where the camera was literally passing through vehicles as it followed the pertinent chase vehicles down the highway. I was going to mention the Battle of Pelenoor Fields in Lord of the Rings, Return of the King, riding along with a Nazgul, but there is so much CGI that, live action is almost the exception. :)
     
  8. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

    Mac'nCheese

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2010
    #58
    I always think CGI looks worse on tv than in the movies. I'm not sure why, maybe cause I'm closer to the screen or the transfer from "film" to bluray. For example, Deadpool2 has a great, one-shot action sequence with Domino running through the street while cars flip over her and blow up and other craziness. The cars that were CGIed were so obvious when I watched this movie on bluray last night. I don't remember it being like that in the theater.
     
  9. TonyC28 macrumors 65816

    TonyC28

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2009
    Location:
    USA
    #59
    I don't mind CGI if it can show something that would otherwise be impossible. But that has limits. Justice League was awful for a few reasons, but overuse of CGI was one of them. I remember walking out of the theater after seeing Transformers (2007) and thinking that if I didn't know it was fake a lot of the effects could pass for "real." I guess it's a necessary evil these days.
     
  10. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

    Mac'nCheese

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2010
    #60
    Just saw mission Impossible fallout again on Blu-ray. Really shows the difference in CGI. I posted above how many of the cars looked fake in an action scene in Deadpool 2. In MIF, Tom cruise is riding a motorcycle through the streets of Paris. Many of the cars have to be CGI, there is no way even Tom cruise was allowed to do some of the stunts they had in the scene for real, the cars had to be have added later. They looked completely real. You would never know they were CGI.
     
  11. Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #61
    Who would you compare them with The Matrix Reloaded Highway scene?
     
  12. Mac'nCheese macrumors 68040

    Mac'nCheese

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2010
    #62
    Forgot about that. Yeah the matrix scene was done really well, too!
     
  13. Huntn, Dec 12, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2018

    Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #63
    Another good example of both practical effects and CGI is The Island (2005) besides being a very enjoyable sci-fi thriller, is the highway chase scene.

    Speaking of highway chase sequences: https://chrisoncars.com/20-greatest-movie-car-chases/

    Regarding the absolute best practical effect highway chase scenes, it has to be Bullit (1968) and The Blues Brothers (1980), the latter is mind blowing as they destroyed over a 100 vehicles.
    http://mentalfloss.com/article/65269/18-fun-facts-about-blues-brothers

    FCD76D23-0E0C-4D71-A4E3-7FE3E796B9D8.jpeg
     
  14. Huntn, Jan 2, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2019

    Huntn thread starter macrumors P6

    Huntn

    Joined:
    May 5, 2008
    Location:
    The Misty Mountains
    #64

Share This Page