Chances of Apple pulling the new MBP trick with iPhone 8?

dvir971

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Since Apple now officially went from evil to full-blown-villain (and it's coming from a hardcore fan for years), do you think it's possible they'll do that vile thing they did with the MacBooks in the next iPhone models?
I mean they'll keep the iPhone 7 the same price and add the iPhone 8 lineup on top of it in a price increased in about 200 dollars?
 

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There's absolutely no justification to do this with computers as well.
They are not thinking rationally now. They are greedy and they think the costumers will accept anything they'll throw on them.
Laptops have always been a lot more though generally. The 256GB 7 plus cost me £912. I can't imagine it being more than £950 be a worry if it was.
 

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Apple had not updated it's Macbook Pro line in a while . . . . did you think they were going to sell for the same price. There is lots of new technology in these new models and Apple is not known to low prices. Everyone has a choice to buy or not.

I would be surprised if Apple could sell the iPhone 8 at the same price as the 7 . . . . only time will tell.
 
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Apple had not updated it's Macbook Pro line in a while . . . . did you think they were going to sell for the same price. There is lots of new technology in these new models and Apple is not known to low prices. Everyone has a choice to buy or not.

I would be surprised if Apple could sell the iPhone 8 at the same price as the 7 . . . . only time will tell.


I believe the OP is referring to the fact that apple is still selling 2015 MacBook Pros alongside the new mode at no discount in price. The first time they've ever done this.
 

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Since Apple now officially went from evil to full-blown-villain (and it's coming from a hardcore fan for years), do you think it's possible they'll do that vile thing they did with the MacBooks in the next iPhone models?
I mean they'll keep the iPhone 7 the same price and add the iPhone 8 lineup on top of it in a price increased in about 200 dollars?
possibly!

by the way - just noticed in UK - the macbook 12 inch increased overnight from £1049 to £1249. That is just disgusting!
 

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Since Apple now officially went from evil to full-blown-villain (and it's coming from a hardcore fan for years), do you think it's possible they'll do that vile thing they did with the MacBooks in the next iPhone models?
Has the functionality of their older model laptops changed overnight?

Why should they lower the price just because new models with IMHO reduced functionality have been released?
 

dvir971

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Apple had not updated it's Macbook Pro line in a while . . . . did you think they were going to sell for the same price. There is lots of new technology in these new models and Apple is not known to low prices. Everyone has a choice to buy or not.

I would be surprised if Apple could sell the iPhone 8 at the same price as the 7 . . . . only time will tell.
That's the whole point of a new generation. Every generation has new technologies, the reason people wait for a new generation is either buying the previous one more cheap or buying the new one in the same price. What they did now is unprecedented and vile. These new MacBooks are literally only for elitists. I've been dreaming on buying a MacBook Pro before university for years. It's like my goal. I've been anticipating this announcement for a long time to start planning things. Now I can just forget about it, or just buy the older model, which every Apple fan knows there's no satisfaction in that, and it will also be in the same price this model always was so I gained absolutely nothing.
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Has the functionality of their older model laptops changed overnight?

Why should they lower the price just because new models with IMHO reduced functionality have been released?
Because that's what happens with literally every new generation of products (iPhone, iPad, iPod, previous Macs, PlayStation, Xbox, Cars, you name it). That's how the industry works. Apple think they can do whatever they want
 

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That's the whole point of a new generation. Every generation has new technologies, the reason people wait for a new generation is either buying the previous one more cheap or buying the new one in the same price. What they did now is unprecedented and vile. These new MacBooks are literally only for elitists. I've been dreaming on buying a MacBook Pro before university for years. It's like my goal. I've been anticipating this announcement for a long time to start planning things. Now I can just forget about it, or just buy the older model, which every Apple fan knows there's no satisfaction in that, and it will also be in the same price this model always was so I gained absolutely nothing.
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Because that's what happens with literally every new generation of products (iPhone, iPad, iPod, previous Macs, PlayStation, Xbox, Cars, you name it). That's how the industry works. Apple think they can do whatever they want
The prices of this new Macs is crazy, and the fact that they didn't even lower the price on the older ones is even worse. they had made they line up so confusing.

And yes, it is a common practice to lower the price of the previous gen. You were paying top dollar for the new model because there are the best available. When they are no longer the best available then they are replaced by the new flagship products and if they continue to be offered, they are at a discounted price. That's it of course, until Apple decided to change it.

Same happened to all devices. Xbox One S came out, Xbox One was sold at a discounted price. When Surface Pro 3 came out, it took Surface Pro 2 pricing while the 2 continued to be offered at a discounted price. Hell, it has always happened with Macs and iPhones in the past, but iPhone is being just plain greedy now.

Unfortunately, I think this will eventually happen with the iPhone, especially if the iPhone Pro rumors are true. Already kind of happened with the iPad. What would be considered the normal iPad Air 3 upgrade, got Pro in the name and voila, now they could charge more for it while keeping the older model the same price.
 
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possibly!

by the way - just noticed in UK - the macbook 12 inch increased overnight from £1049 to £1249. That is just disgusting!
Our currency is garbage right now, and beneath whatever image Apple likes to portray for itself, underneath it's a business which would never consider cutting into their margins for the benefit of the customer.
 

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I believe the OP is referring to the fact that apple is still selling 2015 MacBook Pros alongside the new mode at no discount in price. The first time they've ever done this.
While that is crazy.. I believe they are going to heavily discount the 2015 line for Black Friday or the holiday season. Being the end of October, it wasn't really the time to have a sale when they would get more traction later.
 

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Apple had not updated it's Macbook Pro line in a while . . . . did you think they were going to sell for the same price. There is lots of new technology in these new models and Apple is not known to low prices. Everyone has a choice to buy or not.

I would be surprised if Apple could sell the iPhone 8 at the same price as the 7 . . . . only time will tell.
Lol. Drink a little more of the cool aid.

It's a mid range laptop for ultra premium prices.
 

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They're a business. If people are willing to pay for it, and all signs point to yes, then they will take the money.

How they'll get you is from financing plans. Most people will get the phones and not really notice the increase of $100-200 split over 24 months.
 
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They're a business. If people are willing to pay for it, and all signs point to yes, then they will take the money.

How they'll get you is from financing plans. Most people will get the phones and not really notice the increase of $100-200 split over 24 months.
That's the problem, we as customers really need to vote with our wallets and show them we won't be willing to pay whatever crazy prices they are charging us for.
 

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my thoughts on this.
Apple is locking people into their ecosystem along with focusing across the board device integration.
The good news is the integration.
The bad news is, to make a change to another manufacturer/provider it will be costly and complex.

To ease the latter for consumers, consumers will think twice about switching and simply pay the premium.

iPhone 8, I would expect a $100 bump.
 

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Has the functionality of their older model laptops changed overnight?

Why should they lower the price just because new models with IMHO reduced functionality have been released?
Because its 1,5 years old and the reasonable thing to do unless you are Louis Vuitton who would rather burn their older model than seeing it being sold for less
 
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I'm guessing the iPhone outsells MacBooks by a huge margin so I doubt they'd do it as extreme as the MBPs. More in line with the gradual increase we saw this year (+$20 for 7 Plus).
 
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my thoughts on this.
Apple is locking people into their ecosystem along with focusing across the board device integration.
The good news is the integration.
The bad news is, to make a change to another manufacturer/provider it will be costly and complex.

To ease the latter for consumers, consumers will think twice about switching and simply pay the premium.

iPhone 8, I would expect a $100 bump.
I'm an Apple fan but have kept all my content on Google - email, contacts, calendar, photos - so that I have the flexibility to use any system.

And for the first time I've bought the lowest storage of iPhone - a 32GB 7 Plus. Using Spotify, Google Photos etc.

I have a 2015 MacBook Pro but when this is due for retirement, I'll be looking around at the Windows options. Happy to pay a premium for Apple but not a 100% one.

Phones are different though. I've tried Android many times but oddly it's the touch screen responsiveness that keeps me with iOS. It's so much better than Android in my experience. Had a OnePlus 3 and loved everything else about it. But it's been sold. Surprisingly for more than I paid.
 

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Has the functionality of their older model laptops changed overnight?

Why should they lower the price just because new models with IMHO reduced functionality have been released?
With technology, prices generally go down as the technology ages.
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it's a business which would never consider cutting into their margins for the benefit of the customer.
That would destroy their brand. Their brand is based at least in part on being the premium product with high end customer service. US based customer service isn't free. Have you ever called Dell for customer service? They are outsourced to India, I can't even understand them and they don't understand me half the time. They read from scripts.
 

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mark my words OLED iphone will be alot more expensive

next year we will see:
Cheaper iphone 8 with same screen tech, true tone faster processor at current price or maybe a 10% price increase
OLED iphone 8 "pro" in plus edition aswell will be premium and ALOT more expensive
Just look at the gloss black this year only avaliable in 128gb model, why because $$$

headphone jack removed because wireless beats need to be sold - apple store near me = mainly has wireless beats - they had one row of normal headphones and one edition of BOSE (wired)

this year they included lightening to headphone jack, next year they wont include it

apple is a business i understand but its really f****** its loyal customers nowadays...
 

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I still can't believe that and the MBPs with 4 of the same thunderbold port is ridiculous. What a fail.
 

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Has the functionality of their older model laptops changed overnight?

Why should they lower the price just because new models with IMHO reduced functionality have been released?
because it is old tech? Every company does this....

Apple are just getting greedy now.
 
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I believe the OP is referring to the fact that apple is still selling 2015 MacBook Pros alongside the new mode at no discount in price. The first time they've ever done this.
Not really a new 'thing'.
Apple only recently dropped the 2012 13-inch MBPro from their lineup, the last model sold with an optical drive. I don't believe that one was ever discounted for new sales, even after 4 years of sales with the same hardware.
 
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