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I would really like to see that (typed from my 17" 2011 model), but I doubt it will happen. 15" is actually a very popular notebook size across brands. Apple's sales are supposedly skewed in favor of the 13", but I attribute that to pricing. Some people on here suggest they're more portable, yet I can pick up a 15" rmbp with one hand and toss it in a backpack. The weight difference is almost negligible.

For me it isn't about the weight difference, it is the footprint difference that draws me to the 13"
 
RAM is cheap, Macbook Pro should come with 16MB minimum by default, especially since its not user upgradable.

High end model looks fairly nice.. 1TB of SSD.
 
Wish they'd add a dedicated gpu to the 13'' model as well.
 
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For me it isn't about the weight difference, it is the footprint difference that draws me to the 13"

That makes sense if you're regularly cramped for space. I don't really use my notebook in coffee shops due to the size of the tables. It places coffee too close to expensive electronics, making it more desirable to stick to my phone.
 
Ram

How about an option to have 32GB of RAM?

Why 32GB?

- Run multiple VMs concurrently to simulate a cluster
- Run databases and be able to cache lots of data
- Scientific computing
- Run the whole Hadoop stack natively and be able to give the different components a lot of RAM
 
Tragic Mouse needs a redesign. Using it is unpleasant - not as bad as the hockey puck mouse but pretty darn close. The lid that is supposed to keep the battery covered is terrible.

Check out this thread I made about the Magic Mouse and it's uses:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1693622/

It's a brilliant mouse, made my experience with the Mac much more pleasant. Yeah, it's not the most comfy design, but I don't mind it much. And I've never had trouble with the battery lid.
 
Right now, I seem to be able to purchase 2.3 and 2.6 and the same video card along with 16G ram. What is changing here? Prices going way down? Different/improved Haswell chips? The 2.8 seems to be an improvement but is that it?




2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide



2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide

15-inch: 2.3GHz
with Retina display
Specifications

2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
16GB 1600MHz memory
512GB PCIe-based flash storage 1
Intel Iris Pro Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750Mwith 2GB GDDR5 memory
Built-in battery (8 hours)2
 
Right now, I seem to be able to purchase 2.3 and 2.6 and the same video card along with 16G ram. What is changing here? Prices going way down? Different/improved Haswell chips? The 2.8 seems to be an improvement but is that it?




2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide



2.6GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.8GHz
16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
Backlit Keyboard (English) & User's Guide

15-inch: 2.3GHz
with Retina display
Specifications

2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
16GB 1600MHz memory
512GB PCIe-based flash storage 1
Intel Iris Pro Graphics
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750Mwith 2GB GDDR5 memory
Built-in battery (8 hours)2

its the new haswell refresh with a .2ghz update , pretty much it and the base model getting 16gbs standard
 
Why are you happy about that ? You must not own a modern car or have only a few gigs of crap music.:confused:

Yea, who the **** would be happy about the ipod classic being discontinued. It's an amazing device.

Now that iOS 7 has ruined the music app I find myself using my ipod classic more than ever...
 
And there is no better way of screwing yourself over than by delaying things on the PC front.

If you want to make the PC the best is can be and show just how poor everything else is, you want to storm ahead like a powerhouse.
Not slow down and confirm that it's not advancing.

I totally agree with you but Intel will easily bankrupt themselves if they don't make money off the advances they're making.

Not to mention, the market has been declining for the past 4 years, this isn't news to anybody. Getting Broadwell out right now doesn't change anything, it's not going to get the market out of the decline.

Trust me, Apple, GF, TMSC, Samsung, or other fabs can't do this better than Intel. These fabs are starting from a weaker position and when they get to Intel's levels, they'll run into the same thing.

Right now, Intel probably would not do this again if they would open up their fabs for other companies to use.

Apple buying access to Intel's fab to build their A series of CPUs would be awesome and would help fund Intel's future work on fabs. Not to mention if Apple starts building their own GPUs later on, that's more work for Intel.

How about an option to have 32GB of RAM?

Why 32GB?

- Run multiple VMs concurrently to simulate a cluster
- Run databases and be able to cache lots of data
- Scientific computing
- Run the whole Hadoop stack natively and be able to give the different components a lot of RAM

It is a limitation in the design they're using. They can't stack 4 sticks of RAMs in there, takes up too much space and may require more cooling that they don't want to compromise.

You'll see 32GB coming with DDR4, which can be denser and more power-efficent. Intel is not going to support DDR4 until Skylake in later 2015 or early 2016. However, seeing the delays they went through the last 2-3 years, it is likely late 2016 and early 2017 at this point.
 
sorry but thats not happening anytime soon , i can see a quad core 13" coming waaaaay before a dgpu gets put in it

Do you think maybe it's because of the laptop size? 13'' models never had a dgpu while 15+'' models did, and that makes me think it's due to the smaller size, not sure though.
 
Do you think maybe it's because of the laptop size? 13'' models never had a dgpu while 15+'' models did, and that makes me think it's due to the smaller size, not sure though.

What if Broadwell GPU from 13 inch will be faster than Iris Pro from rMBP15? ;)
 
I'm currently in a holding pattern myself in regards to a rMBP purchase. I happen to need one for work purposes, so I can't hold too long. At the very least, the extra 200MHz would make me feel slightly better.

The 750M is a disappointment -- 800M or 850M would've been a better fit for a machine that *starts* at $2599 (dGPU models -- the non-dGPUs start out at $1999, but if you need/want a dGPU, you don't have much choice).

The extra 8GB in the base 15" model is nice for those getting that config -- I wonder if it means the price of the dGPU model will fall slightly or not. If you are getting that model, you are already getting 16GB of RAM anyway. So there is no benefit in the low end getting more RAM for the same price if the prices remain the same across the board.

Of course, there is nothing official yet from Apple. It could be that this is just someone tossing up a fake screen grab from an iPad that's made to look like it's from one of the store displays. It's also possible this is just placeholder text at the moment and the real specs will be slotted in at the last second. Either way, I'm trying not to get worked up about this update yet. Hopefully we'll know for real in the next week or two.
 
You can scale up the resolution on the 15" Retina models to have the same screen real-estate (and even more) than the old 17" models.

Yes, but then everything on the screen gets really small. Not so pleasant when working with After Effects, Cinema, etc, on the go.

Plus, at least the first generation of rMBP was really sluggish UI-wise in the scaled up resolution setting. Not sure how it is now, but frankly, I don't care. I will hang on to my bored up MBP 17" (16 MB Ram, 1 TB Hybrid HDD, 1 TB HDD) till that thing falls apart. Apple has enough profits to afford offering a real PRO Laptop as in MBP.


Or you could squeeze your head in a vise till the 15" seemed bigger. Not the same thing.

Brilliant! :p
 
I think we're pretty much at the point where computer specs don't matter anymore since, no matter what you get, it's going to be more powerful than you need it to be (for average users). 16GB of RAM is a dream. That is, until people on the software side find new ways to waste it, maybe Java 9.

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The iPod Classic might finally get axed :)

Someone please re-add the downvote button!
 
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Trust me, Apple, GF, TMSC, Samsung, or other fabs can't do this better than Intel. These fabs are starting from a weaker position and when they get to Intel's levels, they'll run into the same thing.

I think this is a key point people dreaming about Apple making an ARM based CPU for the MacBook line miss. Intel's been doing this way to long to expect Apple to walk in and crush them performance wise on their bread and butter PC chips.

If Apple makes an ARM SoC for a MacBook, I would expect it to be the Air, not the Pro -- or even possibly a new product line. Trying to outperform Intel at the high end is not a good use of Apple's resources, IMO. But coming up with a laptop with good enough performance and super long battery life would be.

But even that seems likely to be a bad use of resources -- the Haswell MBAs already get enough battery life for a day's worth of usage. How much more can they improve upon that? While I think getting even more battery life is an admirable goal, for Apple to do a whole new SoC for the Mac, they either have to get a lot more battery life (measured in days not hours) or they have to cut their costs so much that it allows them to hit new price points or up other specs (bigger SSD, higher resolution screens) than their competitors could at the same price points.

Who knows? I've been wrong before -- perhaps Apple is prepping a ARM based MacBook Pro right now for release sometime next year and it will utterly embarrass Intel. But I don't think that their goal with an ARM based Mac is high end performance.
 
Or you could squeeze your head in a vise till the 15" seemed bigger. Not the same thing.

Mmm no.. what you're suggesting would be magnifying the screen. Not sure if you're aware, but on the Retina displays you can scale up to 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 - which is the same resolution and 1 higher then the old 17" models. 1680x1050 looks great on the 15" Retina models.
 
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