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WHAT? Have you tried it or are you just guessing?

If true, I’m starting to get fed up of EU restrictions on AI and Apple features such as iPhone Mirroring…
We are on MR... Do you believe that nobody would have taken this article as an opportunity to blame EU?
 
The article is a bit confusing.

Says to press Option + Shift +1, but the screenshot shows a different keystroke. By "invoking the ChatGPT bar", is that referring to the "pairing process" shown in the screenshot?

Glad to see that the pairing deactivates after a configurable amount of time.

Is this using official APIs provided by macOS, or some hack?
 
with a zillion privacy tweaking ON/OFF buttons buried in system settings, modern OSs are just personal spy programs. I do not blame people for jumping ship to Linux and I might be on that bandwagon soon.
 
WHAT? Have you tried it or are you just guessing?

If true, I’m starting to get fed up of EU restrictions on AI and Apple features such as iPhone Mirroring…
I'm sick of the EUSSR for merely existing. It's a dictatorship no-one wants.

If you want privacy-busting software on your computer, that's your choice, but we must have the ability to TOTALLY disable it.

I don't care what the EUSSR thinks, and we don't need privacy laws. Just tell bad companies to sod off!

I don't want ChatGPT anywhere near my computer or data. It was invented to steal data.
 
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The amount of posts from people that are afraid of AI is simply astonishing. Remember, you fear what you don’t understand.
Very insulting statement.

I understand AI; I understand when someone's software wants to take my data and put it on their servers.

Comp Sec 101: if your data is one someone else's computer, it's not your data anymore.

I have been saying for decades now, all this crap is designed to spy.
 
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The amount of posts from people that are afraid of AI is simply astonishing. Remember, you fear what you don’t understand.

I use AI locally on my mac pretty much everyday and sometimes I use Claude ai but I never used ChatGPT before simply I don't trust the company nor its CEO.
 
How is the permission for the ChatGPT app on Mac to access notes enforced? There is no privacy setting for Notes in the system settings. Are we supposed to trust the ChatGPT app to restrict itself? If so, how do we know it hasn't accessed notes and other personal data on the Mac all along?

I'd feel better if ChatGPT was a sandboxed app from the app store ...
I agree with you! You could block all OpenAI domain names in the hosts file
 
No, I didn’t know that. Then, why is Apple taking so long on implementing all this features? Isn’t Google another so-called “gatekeeper”?
Apple gets frustrated by EU legislation (and I'm not making a judgement on that), but they like to play the victim in front of their fanbase, using every opportunity to make the EU look the big bad villain by saying "Hey, Apple EU-based Apple fans, this really sucks but it's that nasty, nasty EU again, leave it with us and we'll do what we can do for you" when, as others have said, other companies seem to be able to work within the EU's legislative requirements without the same issues and associated song-and-dance.

Again, I'm not judging the EU (I'm not even in it any more), but Apple have frequently manipulated public opinion in their battles with them knowing that their strong fanbase and PR machine is going to beat the EU's any day of the week.
 
For maximum security, turn off all access to the internet and local network. Only a stand alone computer can not hacked. Even better, put it in safe. 😇

Otherwise, we start down the trail of outsider discovery of our contents.

Truly pencil and paper and a fine chad size shredder provide the most security. Then burn the chad. :eek:
 
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The most important setting in MacOS and iOS right now....

Although even with it disabled it's still hogging 3GB of valuable space on my device. Sloppy Beta software.


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Really? I haven't tried turning it off. I've seen some people say that when turned off, things go back to normal. But they may not be looking at space correctly.

So for sure, even when disabled, it's taking up disk space regardless? Do you know if it already was before you turned it on?

Also, are any of its background processes still running and using resources? Not good if so and disappointing.
 
The amount of posts from people that are afraid of AI is simply astonishing. Remember, you fear what you don’t understand.
Quite the opposite. I understand a lot about it and that is the reason I so adamantly DON'T want it on my machines in this way. Things like image correction or identifying objects in images is great. But beyond that I don't need or want AI integrated on my machine sifting through all my stuff. Even more importantly, I don't know what they will do with that data and I don't trust the companies to be honest and respectful with it either. Microsoft is worse than Apple in this regard with Recall, though.
 
Does anyone other than Apple think this is a good idea?

It's a third-party app which you download from a developer's web site.

Apple isn't involved in all and can't do anything unless you want macOS to be like iOS.

This is user freedom which I know you are a staunch defender of.
 
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If Apple thinks anything is a good idea, legions of "Apple is always right" fans think so too. I think it's in the rules. ;)

This is something you should support.

A third-party developer develops a Mac App, avoids the Mac App Store, allows the user to download it from its website, and you as a user can grant it complete control of your Mac if you so wishes without any interference from Apple.

Or do you want Apple to control third-party developers on the Mac?
 
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How is the permission for the ChatGPT app on Mac to access notes enforced? There is no privacy setting for Notes in the system settings. Are we supposed to trust the ChatGPT app to restrict itself? If so, how do we know it hasn't accessed notes and other personal data on the Mac all along?

I'd feel better if ChatGPT was a sandboxed app from the app store ...

Yes, but this is the freedom so many MacRumours commenters want.

Complete freedom without interference from Apple.

It's this freedom which OpenAI is using by providing a Mac application on their website which users can download and install.
 
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It's a third-party app which you download from a developer's web site.

Apple isn't involved in all and can't do anything unless you want macOS to be like iOS.

This is user freedom which I know you are a staunch defender of.

I have no idea how you read my joke and interpreted it as some kind of support of clamping down on third party app entrepreneurs. I had to step back through the chain to see if I misinterpreted something.

My original reply had nothing to do with that, nor did the post I quoted. Next step before it is thread title… which giving A.I. unapproved access to notes does not seem desirable to me… and also has nothing to do with third parties making & selling their apps themselves.

Your post reads like we’re in one of the E.U. DMCA threads, in which I’ve been one of the few generally cheering on the freedom of app distribution from third parties just like Mac apps. Best I can tell, this is not that kind of thread.

By the emoji at the end of my post, it was intended as a joke. But even if interpreted as serious, I applaud third party app development and third party distribution of apps. However granting access to notes is not something I would want to do myself.
 
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There are other "personal" apps in MacOS, iPadOS and iOS that seem to lack the user specific choice to personally sandbox or isolate the app. Some can be non-deletable which brings one to the conclusion that Big Brother wins again.

A tidbit of data here and a tidbit of data there can be suddenly combined into tracking data or more importantly, like in Orwell's 1984, figure out what you are thinking. Remember the phrase "thought police"?

Really scary bovine byproducts (to be polite) now!
 
There are other "personal" apps in MacOS, iPadOS and iOS that seem to lack the user specific choice to personally sandbox or isolate the app
Are you implying that sandboxing requirements for iOS and iPadOS are not respected, and those rogue apps could have access to my notes or passwords on my iPhone/iPad?
 
From I have read, non-sandboxed apps could have freedom "to roam" (perhaps in ways that leave no traces) and MacOS seems to provide no way to restrict access to Notes along with other apps as well.

Even a thumb drive is not secure as there are programs that can sene a new drive and offer to scan it, but other programs may not announce their activity.

Security could be defined as standing in the middle of an empty 40 acre field barn of vegetation with NO electronics inside the field or on the body and you and other person(s) have positioned themselves in a sound proof enclosure that hides viewing of your lips.

It would have to be a randomly selected field and never used twice.

That is a rather cumbersome process. So we compromise to easier processes which we "HOPE" are secure.
 
From I have read, non-sandboxed apps could have freedom "to roam" (perhaps in ways that leave no traces) and MacOS seems to provide no way to restrict access to Notes along with other apps as well.

Even a thumb drive is not secure as there are programs that can sene a new drive and offer to scan it, but other programs may not announce their activity.

Security could be defined as standing in the middle of an empty 40 acre field barn of vegetation with NO electronics inside the field or on the body and you and other person(s) have positioned themselves in a sound proof enclosure that hides viewing of your lips.

It would have to be a randomly selected field and never used twice.

That is a rather cumbersome process. So we compromise to easier processes which we "HOPE" are secure.
Still, safety measures such as TCC or just the permissions system that’s in place for certain folders or Photos app, could well be extended to Notes app and maybe other critical system apps. Maybe we see that safety features extend to other areas of macOS and iOS on future versions of edge systems. Hopefully.
 
From I have read, non-sandboxed apps could have freedom "to roam" (perhaps in ways that leave no traces) and MacOS seems to provide no way to restrict access to Notes along with other apps as well.
MacOS has a sandboxing capability similar to iOS, but developers have to enable it in their apps. This is mandatory for (most) apps that are distributed on Apple's app store, but only voluntary for apps from other sources. Unfortunately most of the latter do not enable it, because they want to have a greater degree of access to your system, don't know any better, or are simply lazy.
 
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