Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Cheaper iPhone Nano?
- Thread starter Le Big Mac
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Didn't see it mentioned yet...
Um... there is no and will be no iPhone nano / 2nd cheaper iPhone.
There will, however, be an ipod with touch screen.
This artcile is soo far off its amazing, honestly its rediculous to even read.
"touch wheel" - wtf is a touch wheel on a phone going to do? a firefly clone?
"it's probably the only way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalizing iPod Nano"
This is just so badly written and based on nothing even relavent I don't even know where to start....
Um... there is no and will be no iPhone nano / 2nd cheaper iPhone.
There will, however, be an ipod with touch screen.
This artcile is soo far off its amazing, honestly its rediculous to even read.
"touch wheel" - wtf is a touch wheel on a phone going to do? a firefly clone?
"it's probably the only way for Apple to launch a lower end phone without severely cannibalizing iPod Nano"
This is just so badly written and based on nothing even relavent I don't even know where to start....
I think you've got it. If it's for real, we'll see it by late November. Hopefully it's true...I can't afford $500, but $250-350 is a lot more affordable.
This, from the idiot, who predicted an iPod refresh by January 2008.
I don't know what's worse, the fact that these people get paid hundred of thousands of dollars to write this crap or the fact that Macrumors repeats it.
It's pure, idiotic speculation folks.
And the nano iPod is not coming anytime soon. Apple made it as small as it gets...
The next 12 months are going to be about the software....
I don't know what's worse, the fact that these people get paid hundred of thousands of dollars to write this crap or the fact that Macrumors repeats it.
It's pure, idiotic speculation folks.
And the nano iPod is not coming anytime soon. Apple made it as small as it gets...
The next 12 months are going to be about the software....
cool idea
Great idea for people who don't want the data end of a smart phone. The iPhone will be the high end of the market and the iPhone nano will fill in nicely on the lower end. Apple and att have sold a ton of iPhones, including the one I'm furiously typing away on. Yes, you can type fast of a smart phone without a plastic keyboard. An iPhone nano for Christmas would take the cell phone market by storm.
Think of all the royalties that Apple will be collecting for years to come.
Great idea for people who don't want the data end of a smart phone. The iPhone will be the high end of the market and the iPhone nano will fill in nicely on the lower end. Apple and att have sold a ton of iPhones, including the one I'm furiously typing away on. Yes, you can type fast of a smart phone without a plastic keyboard. An iPhone nano for Christmas would take the cell phone market by storm.
Think of all the royalties that Apple will be collecting for years to come.
It's seems as though if Reuters don't know something they "speculate" which is journalism talk for making stuff up.
If we were going to see an iPhone Nano in Q4 I think it would have been announced by now. Didn't Apple announce the iPhone six months before launch because of the long, public FCC approval process?
One question remains...
With the iPhone and now the iPhone Nano the question that has to be answered is how much does Apple get each month. For instance, let's say Apple gets $3 per phone. That means for every 3 million phones sold Apple takes in 100 million in pure profit. When they reach 30 million phones the royalties alone will increase profit by 10%, not counting the profit on the phone itself. Lets face it Apple os going to sell a lot more than 10 million in the first 18 months. They might make 10 million this year.
With the iPhone and now the iPhone Nano the question that has to be answered is how much does Apple get each month. For instance, let's say Apple gets $3 per phone. That means for every 3 million phones sold Apple takes in 100 million in pure profit. When they reach 30 million phones the royalties alone will increase profit by 10%, not counting the profit on the phone itself. Lets face it Apple os going to sell a lot more than 10 million in the first 18 months. They might make 10 million this year.
100% agreed.
We won't see any changes to the iPhone line until after MWSF 08, earliest.
I just find it hard to believe they'd mess with a product that sold ~1 million units in ~TWO DAYS. No way. Huh uh. Not happening.
Wait until we start seeing iPhone sales slow or the market is so inundated with iPhones... Only then are we gonna see the next addition to the iPhone family.
My $.02.
nah the next thing is apple pipeline are the new macs i think theyb will wait just like with the iphone to see how it works refine it and so on, then probably yes... but not for now
this would be brilliant as the "free" or pack in phone just, just strip it of some data features and make it a good mp3 player and phone
The price tag would make me buy it, but thinking about how many features it would be missing puts me right off.
Would be a complete waste if it didn't have a touch screen, and if it did, it would be too small to do anything with.
Meh.
Would be a complete waste if it didn't have a touch screen, and if it did, it would be too small to do anything with.
Meh.
Of course there will be an iPhone Nano...what loony thinks otherwise!!
Nokia sell 100million pieces of crap phones a QUARTER!
iPhone Nano will obviously be superior - of that no one can deny since Apple are masters of the GUI universe...
So why would Apple 'get into the phone business' and not want a slice of the nano action ??
It makes perfect sense - Ipod Nano + Phone = IPhone Nano
Very simple - very elegant - very affordable - the best of both worlds.
My guess is this will be the same price as a current nano and so will totally cannibalize straight ipod nano sales.
They will still for the time being sell a classic nano without the phone at just $20 less.
The contract subsidy will indirectly pay Apple for the difference in manufacturing costs for the iPhone.
Nokia sell 100million pieces of crap phones a QUARTER!
iPhone Nano will obviously be superior - of that no one can deny since Apple are masters of the GUI universe...
So why would Apple 'get into the phone business' and not want a slice of the nano action ??
It makes perfect sense - Ipod Nano + Phone = IPhone Nano
Very simple - very elegant - very affordable - the best of both worlds.
My guess is this will be the same price as a current nano and so will totally cannibalize straight ipod nano sales.
They will still for the time being sell a classic nano without the phone at just $20 less.
The contract subsidy will indirectly pay Apple for the difference in manufacturing costs for the iPhone.
A smaller iPhone will have to come sooner or later. (Rather sooner)
Nowadays, at least here in Norway, every $50 phone has an mp3-player and memory card support. a lot of people buy this + $20 1GB memory card = $70. There's no way a $500 phone will compete with that, even with the extra features and 3GB memory. (1GB for OS)
For me, the form-factor would be the deciding part. I mean, the iPhone is HUGE. I would like to have a phone with a form-factor something like this:
Nowadays, at least here in Norway, every $50 phone has an mp3-player and memory card support. a lot of people buy this + $20 1GB memory card = $70. There's no way a $500 phone will compete with that, even with the extra features and 3GB memory. (1GB for OS)
For me, the form-factor would be the deciding part. I mean, the iPhone is HUGE. I would like to have a phone with a form-factor something like this:
news
This could be great news but knowing Apple who knows who they pick for your service and then we'd start again with the same theater as for the iphone. And we'll be forced to use Nano licensed from criminal groups like ATT, O2, or Enron.
This could be great news but knowing Apple who knows who they pick for your service and then we'd start again with the same theater as for the iphone. And we'll be forced to use Nano licensed from criminal groups like ATT, O2, or Enron.
Here ya go. Like Ireland's drawing, but I ditched the camera. You could add games there... iPods need games...
I made it so the screen is just a tiny bit wider than the casing of the iPod nano. That's enough for accurate thumb control. We only have 3 columns.
I'm guessing that SMS would be kept a widget to keep an uniform appearance with it's big brother. However, such a phone would never go below $400, with the multi-touch screen. (that is why I think Apple will wait. Till they can sell it for $250 or something..)
The downside is that all mobile phones have video support, and some kind of internet support nowadays, so the iPhone nano would really be technically outdated compared to other phones. You wouldn't be able to buy background images, mms-templates, funny pictures and stuff the youths buy a lot of..
Here ya go. Like Ireland's drawing, but I ditched the camera. You could add games there... iPods need games...
I made it so the screen is just a tiny bit wider than the casing of the iPod nano. That's enough for accurate thumb control. We only have 3 columns.
Cool...
Of course doesn't need to be as wide or long since no need for a vertical alpha-numeric keypad. SMS would always be done in landscape mode with a full width keypad. Not so sure about ditching the camera though.
Otherwise , very nice - definitely Get's my vote...
Nokia, motorola et all must be bricking it right now...
That's a smart thought. How long does the FCC process takes?
If it's 4 months you're spot on, if it's two, this overpaid "expert" or "analyst" can still be right..
that's great news.
Apple needs a cheaper iPhone to attract more buyers. The price tag of $499 and $599 is too high for most folks. The iPhone nano should cost $199 to $299. That would be more realistic.
They will sell like crazy.
I just wish they had two choices of carrier, like AT&T and Verizon.
True. I would love a cheaper iPhone. The current price isn't too bad, but unless it is no more than around £150 and on pay as you go, I'm not really interested.
Oh, also, I want to be able to use my Virgin SIM.
You know, this part of the argument does make sense. A number of people have pointed out that the $5-600 iPhone isn't viable in the long term, it's just not the case that most people are going to be willing to spend that kind of money, especially in an environment in which most people are used to spending no more than $100, and frequently nothing at all, on a new phone.
On top of which, the iPhone itself is somewhat large and generally not appealing to everybody.
There are two real options: The first is that Apple doesn't care, they'll just take the high-end consumer phone market away from... who has that now, Nokia? And they'll stay there, producing minority interest expensive (but arguably worth it) devices much as they did in the computer industry.
The other is that Apple will want to grow their phone business, and if so they do have to produce devices that are considerably cheaper than what they offer today. Cutting the price of the iPhone would be an interesting move, but it starts to make the iPod nano look seriously over-priced the lower it gets.
I'd imagine that Apple has plans to launch a range of phones in the next year. I'd be surprised if higher capacity devices aren't released, replacing the current iPhone at the same price point. And I'd be surprised if a much smaller iPhone, possibly one that eschews the multitouch interface and much of the iPhone functionality, at a much lower price, doesn't also come out.
We will probably see the OS X iPods first though. Hopefully those will give us some clue as to where Apple is thinking...
You want cell phone service from a non-criminal group? Is this for the Neverland market that you're talking about?
I would buy if they made a Nano iPod that had a phone, SMS and address book. I don't care about anything else.
But it would have to come unlocked, and be able to be put on any network.
But it would have to come unlocked, and be able to be put on any network.