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Check Out the iPhone 14 Pro's Dynamic Island in Action
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You can't think of anything because your knowledge about Samsung's hardware and software is obviously limited.
Samsung has implemented many software features that eventually became part of standard Android while the reverse happens way less often. Even Android 12L is basically just Samsung pushing Google to finally better adapt Android to bigger screens in general, it's not Google's initiative.
Just take a look at how Samsung's UI has evolved in the last few years to bake better advantage of larger smartphone screens, to improve usability on larger screens by bringing UI elements down to be easier to reach, look at all the software features Samsung's Ultra smartphones have to take advantage of the 6.8 inch vs Apple's Pro Max smartphones which have no software or OS UI elements to take advantage on the larger screen in any way.
Samsung hasn't implemented a similar feature on their smartphones because it makes no sense whatsoever, if you understand how Android works. When Android runs a background task you get a persistent notification in the statusbar and you can access the task by a quick swipe-down anywhere on the home screen, you don't need to do finger gymnastics to reach the top of a 6.7 inch screen. Also most Android phones have a small circle in the middle of the top of the screen not a large pill that can dynamically gets even larger and takes even more screen realestate at the top so turning off pixels around that small circle would look ugly and weird.
When Apple first launched a phone with Face id, a large number of users here claimed that the entire smartphone wold will move in the direction of adopting it as the main biometric authentication method(the same was said about 3D touch) while I disagreed because it didn't make sense. The same is true here, it doesn't make sense for Android OEMs to implement such a feature, the way Android is designed to run makes it pointless. But yeah if Samsung would have implemented this exact feature on let's say the S10+, it would have been called a gimmick on this forum by a lot of users.
Actually no, they wouldn’t have come up with it. But now it exists the next phones of theirs will have it as well.
My hands don’t reach it properly. And it’s an eye sore while I try to play games. It sticks out into every video on YouTube and it’s ugly. Sorry I think this island is going to be exactly like the Touch Bar on a Mac. Sounds well and good in testing but in real world use it’s a gimmick people soon tire over.
People have to physically sign for it. And they still somehow messed it up. Great job UPS
It’s it too much to wish Steve Jobs and Jon Ivy were still around? Tim Cooke is turning the company into some convoluted and boring eco system. We’re getting things we got two years ago re branded and re packaged. Absolutely no innovation is going on anymore. We got new CPUs , wonderful. But if my car looked exactly the same drove the same felt the same every time a new one came out…. I would buy different car.
Your new exact car now can drive 14% further!!!! Now please pay us $45,999.
I’ll tell you now it’s disturbingly annoying to use this island. The phone is too heavy and the island sticks out into anything you are watching on screen. It’s not easy to stretch your hand to the top of the display on the max model. Any game I run this thing is wiggling and bobbing into the gameplay.
It’s terrible and I’ve already box the 14 Pro Max to return it.
I’m sending it back. I’ll just get a 14 Plus.
How is that any different than the rest of the phone screen?
Absolutely wrong about my knowledge of Samsung. Show me the feature here that you could ever call a gimmick, something so unique that you'd see reviewers discussing it like you see with the DI? Bringing UI elements down to be easier to reach is nowhere near simply a gimmick and is something that every manufacturer, including Apple, has done at one point or another with a larger screen.
Your claim here about the Pro Max not having software or UI elements for the larger screen is simply wrong. Since the iPhone 6 Plus, there are landscape functions that act more like iPadOS that are not available on the smaller screens. Does this mean your knowledge about Apple's hardware and software is obviously limited?
If Samsung released a facial recognition biometric solution that was five to ten times more secure than using a fingerprint, I would have been absolutely shocked. Companies immediately attempted to copy it but realized that it wasn't as simple as using a camera or even throwing in their own array (Xiaomi) without putting in a hell of lot more work than it appears. After all, that FaceID array was developed over many years by an entire company that did nothing but that sort of thing before Apple bought them. That company shopped that same solution around and most of the industry turned them down. Windows has adopted a similar solution as a standard spec in Windows Hello. At some point, the array will shrink further, manufacturing techniques will allow it to become even smaller, and it will become more prolific in other phones. Being behind the screen may never happen, but there are places around the bezel that may work. They're already experimenting with fiber optic/prismatic designs, it's just a matter of time.
If you actually recall what was said at the time of FaceID is that it would take two, possibly three, years for the competition to catch up to that technology. Instead, they chose not to go that route after some attempts, since most people do not realize the difference between the security there and simply using face recognition with a camera. Basically, they're sitting this one out as their implementation isn't worth as much as pointing out the "eyesore" of a notch.
Finally, the term gimmick you keep throwing around is not the bad word you think it is. "Just a gimmick" is a bad term, yes.
It should be renamed the Fold 1.0, and the previous ones Fold Proto, Fold Alpha, and Fold Beta.
On my company issued MacBook Pro, I use TouchBar all of the time....I love the convenience of it.
Almost immediately after I started using my 14 Pro, I found a GUI bug with the Dynamic Island Timer widget where the far right numbers get slightly cut off.
How did Apple not catch this?!?!
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Lol. Got even better once the timer dipped below 10 minutes. 🙄
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Touch Bar certainly has some incredible use case models, but it just hasn't caught on with consumers... hence Apple gradually phasing it out.
I’d like to ask @Tech for Kings what does he disagree with, from my message.
That message is, mainly, a succession of questions I’m legitimately interested in. I don’t quite understand what can someone disagree from a question, honestly.
That message is, mainly, a succession of questions I’m legitimately interested in. I don’t quite understand what can someone disagree from a question, honestly.
The rumors are that all the 15 iphones will get DI. It will just be a feature of newer phones as the notch phones age out.
To be honest, the Dynamic Island is a gimmick, pure and simple, those trying to defend it should see it for what it is. It is to camouflage the notch and that's it. All of the uses I have seen can be achieved without it.
No notch would be better, but I can live with the notch, but lets be honest, no notch is better.
Here's the thing though, I like gimmicks, I have upgraded my iPhone 13 Pro to a iPhone 14 pro on the strength of the DI and the always on display. Both are gimmicks but many users will buy the new phone because of them. I am in that category.
Shallow? Of course I am, I just don't try and make excuses for a device that proves it.
No notch would be better, but I can live with the notch, but lets be honest, no notch is better.
Here's the thing though, I like gimmicks, I have upgraded my iPhone 13 Pro to a iPhone 14 pro on the strength of the DI and the always on display. Both are gimmicks but many users will buy the new phone because of them. I am in that category.
Shallow? Of course I am, I just don't try and make excuses for a device that proves it.
It's just you. At some point, all parts of the screen are touched and can accumulate fingerprints. Why do you think the island will gather significantly more touches? I don't touch that area any more than any other parts of the screen. I regularly clean the screen with a swab. I can't believe someone is actually making a big deal out of this hypothetical that really has no significant basis in reality. Just more the same here.
I doubt I'm wrong.
The attempt to add a secondary screen like experience isn't that unique in the first place. Other Android manufacturers already played with this idea years ago. What they mostly lacked was good marketing around it or a very easy to impress fan base.
Anyway Samsung has introduced many new software features that have been called gimmicks on this forum, things like Edge Panel, Good look, Split Screen Multitasking, even Dex.
Also Apple hasn't done anything to improve usabilty on their 6.7 inch smartphones.
Funny, Apple removed home screen landscape mode on phones launched after the 8 Plus. The 6s plus is 5.5 inch, the 14 Pro Max is much larger at 6.7 inch in case you didn't notice.
So yeah there are no features to take advantage of the bigger smartphone screens, it's actually harder to navigate on a Pro Max than on a big Android smartphones. On Samsung there's Edge Panel, a proper back function that works from any side of the screen(very useful on larger screens), double tab to lock/unlock the smartphone, a proper one finger mode that shrinks the entire UI, the ability to swipe down anywhere on the home screen to access the notifications/quick toggle panels, ability to place icons anywhere you want, change the home screen grid, an UI that brings active elements closer to the bottom of the screen so they are easier to reach, Full Screen in Split screen view, Multi window for all apps etc.
You are very easy to impress by the marketing of a specific company it seems.
Nonsense. Xioami, Huawei, LG and even Google had fully working proper 3D facial recognition systems. The problem was their users didn't care about these more expensive and ugly looking cutouts.
So it will always be more expensive, complex to implement and it will continue to compromise the design of the front of the phone.
Well by comparison Android manufactures are preparing to adopt Qualcomm's huge ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that even allows for dual fingerprint authentication. It will most likely still be cheaper to implement than a 3D facial recognition system.
That was always just a biased assumption that also didn't make sense.
Wrong, any Android smartphone gives a warning that camera face unlock isn't very secure so people are intentionally made aware.
They didn't adopt it because the fingerprint sensor is much cheaper to implement and the can minimize the notch to a small circle that is just the size of the front camera and this is what people want and like, this is what competition does, it forces companies to adapt. There's no such competition in the iOS world.
Well I begin to suspect you forgot from where the conversation started.
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Indeed
Brand new iPhone features that Android already has
Some of the iPhone’s new features are already in Android.
www.theverge.com
When Samsung does this, it'll be an imitation (the sincerest form of flattery).
It bears repeating... Please keep it on the DL in the DI.
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