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Boy I can't wait for Verizon to get the iPhone. Then all these AT&T whiners can experience what real bad service and price manipulating really is!!
 
You mean the vaporware tethering plan with the unlimited bandwidth compared to the crippled 2G tethering plan that costs just $5 less than the data plan you also need which gives you a data plan with a minuscule data amount that makes tethering an iPad, or laptop on even an occasional basis pretty much useless?

If they are going to cripple tethering to such a degree it should just be free and people can use their 2 gigs however they want.

He said it'll be crippled AND cost more. (More than what? Yes, I'm assuming he meant the vaporware tething plan you refer to.)

It'll be crippled, but it doesn't cost more.

He said 2 things, I'm just saying that only one of those things was correct. You just explained that one correct thing. I agree with you, but that wasn't the issue.
 
....they will be unable to switch back to the unlimited plan at any point in the future.
They will be unable to switch back to the 5GB plan at any point in the future. It has NEVER been unlimited. I still don't see how they get away with claiming unlimited when it most definitely IS limited. That goes for all carriers as well as cable co.'s.
 
What will they (AT&T) do if you've got some unknown usage?

Sounds weird, but I looked at my last month's bill and there's close to 3GB of data usage resulting from activity every night between 2am-3am. I'm pretty sure I'm not sleep-surfing, so somewhere in my phone there's something generating some pretty big data transfer activity.....

I'm trying to get AT&T to help me identify what it is, but all I've gotten from the helpful CSR so far is "don't worry; you've got an unlimited plan...."

True, but if I had a capped plan and this was happening I'd be freaking out!

Anyone else noticed this?

That used to happen with my Blackberry! I called ATT and the person said it was Blackberry doing some updates. ? I would be po'd if I were on a limited plan.

Could be, but if my iPhone was doing some mysterious "updating" in the middle of the night to the tune of 3GB/month I'd be pretty ticked if all I had was a 2GB plan!
 
They will be unable to switch back to the 5GB plan at any point in the future. It has NEVER been unlimited. I still don't see how they get away with claiming unlimited when it most definitely IS limited. That goes for all carriers as well as cable co.'s.

These unlimited "limits" are rarely (if ever) enforced. For all intents and purposes, the unlimited plan is unlimited.

I have exceeded (by far) the 250GB cap on my cable internet from Comcast and they have never said anything to me about it.

And many are exceeding the 5GB on the AT&T unlimited with no repercussions.
 
need help

Okay I use quite a bit of data on my iphone. I am on a family plan with a friend now. It ends july 12 I am planning on getting my own account what ever day the iphone comes out? should i go ahead and get another 3GS under my name and return it when the new iphone comes out so I can stay with unlimited?
 
They will be unable to switch back to the 5GB plan at any point in the future. It has NEVER been unlimited. I still don't see how they get away with claiming unlimited when it most definitely IS limited. That goes for all carriers as well as cable co.'s.

I've been reading these boards since well before the iPhone came out and I've yet to see anyone claim to that they hit the limit and had something happen to them.

If a limit isn't enforced, is it really a limit?
 
Well that is sort of the ire too - yes, most people who use tethering, even the new $20 a month tethering, will use more than the 2 gig limit. They are charging you almost as much as the data plan itself and giving you nothing more in return - I mean, they aren't even doing the tethering - the iPhone OS is!

This is a useless tethering option and  so needs to drop AT&T as sole US provider if they are doing this.

I do agree that AT&T should have given something for the $15.00. I can understand on an unlimited plan to charge an additional fee, since you would/could certantly use more data with other devices. This would cover the cost of the higher data usage. But. When I am paying for 2GB of data. I should not have to pay more to use it tethered or not. I can see charging a fee of $15 only if that buys me more data. The tethering should have been a part of the 2GB plan for $25.00. Or maybe make it the $35.00 for the 3GB & tethering.

In my case I would only use the tethering sporaticaly. Maybe if I needed to get online on my laptop, or wifi ipad if allowed, in a pinch. Sort of like buying the 3G ipad for the functionality if ever needed. Thus paying $15 a month for the one off chance makes no sense and limits my options.

This is another feature for AT&T just to make extra $$$. It costs them nothing additional on a capped plan.
 
There's more money to be made by increasing your customer base than in making a couple bucks more off some of them.

Good point. If AT&T doesn't get any competition with the iPhone soon, though, I suspect that they will lure people in with these lower rates and then jack the rates up.

How much does tethering currently cost for non-iPhone smartphones on AT&T? If it didn't cost anything additional, then AT&T can add an additional $20 per month to its profits for all those non-iPhone smartphone users who depend on tethering. Also, confining tethering to only a 2 GB data plan for new customers seems like nothing more than a complete money grab.

There's little doubt that iPhone OS 4 will be jailbroken yet again once the final version is released, thus allowing people on the current "unlimited" plan to keep their current plan and continue to tether with PDAnet or other solutions for the current rate of $30/month -- which is a much better deal than AT&T's alternative. However, I think it's only a matter of time before current "unlimited" customers are forced into one of the new plans.
 
the best part is.... with the awesome new front facing camera for video chat, we will ALL be using more than 200mb, and have to ration our potential use of this new feature to stay under 2gb. I guess it makes sense though, if every cell phone user used camera chat for every call, there would be major bandwidth problems.
Cost isn't gonna matter. There may be a front facing camera, and there may be an iChat client for the next iPhone, but do you really think you are going to video chat with someone on AT&T's network? Two way video and two way audio streamed live to each other? Along with how many other millions of people trying to do the same thing?? The network can't even handle VOICE to each other!!!

I'll guarantee a big fat FAIL on AT&T when this new iPhone and "video chat" is launched. It ain't gonna work. No way, No how. Maybe with next gen bandwidth, but not on 3G. Not now. Not on AT&T.
 
Switching to ATT before June 7

what if I want to switch to ATT before June 7 (i'm currently on VZW)? presumably, I should be able to sign up for unlimited data for $30/month right?
 
They will be unable to switch back to the 5GB plan at any point in the future. It has NEVER been unlimited. I still don't see how they get away with claiming unlimited when it most definitely IS limited. That goes for all carriers as well as cable co.'s.

It is not limited. If you read the agreement there was no limit. There is a 5GB capo set for the "unlimited" data plans for the 3G data servce for computers but not on the iphone terms of service.
 
So instead of using the money they've been collecting on data plans to upgrade their system to handle the bandwidth, they're screwing everyone by capping the usage. But their giving unlimited access at AT&T hotspots, so that's what...only AT&T stores? And why do people continue to stay in their contracts with this company?

They are in a lot of places actually. Pretty much every Starbucks uses AT&T wifi. Also some hotels use AT&T wifi. I was pleasantly surprised by that realization when staying at the Taj in Atlantic City. The iPhone also automatically connects you to any detected AT&T wifi hotspot without any need to jump through hoops, so I think it's a great service.
 
what if I want to switch to ATT before June 7 (i'm currently on VZW)? presumably, I should be able to sign up for unlimited data for $30/month right?

Theoretically,yes. But they may have discontinued the plan. So while those that have it can continue with it, no one will be able to purchase it.

Of course, I don't know, that is the alternate possibility.
 
Post pics! Not anecdotal "oh I've used blah blah blah." As you can see, my trend is upwards, which I would imagine is the case for most people.

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LOL. Mine bounces all over the place... decisions decisions. it is worth the hassle of only saving. my wife and I are on a shared family plan (but each phone is required to have it's own data plan). the graph only allows you to go back 7 months (at least that is all I can get to display). for me, it makes sense - I tend to use 74mb to 135mb per month. But I am mostly at home. My wife on the other hand uses almost 1gb per month (would be interesting to see how much for the June billing as she is in another state visiting family).

so, do I save $10 a month and then worry if I go over with wi-fi tethering. Oh wait, I have a 3g, and not a 3GS - so I would probably have to upgrade my phone.

Looking at Verizon's mifi. $66 / month 5gb up to 5 devices. According to the map, my house is in the coverage area (I know 3 years ago is was not - a family member was traveling and her verizon phone would not work here).

Maybe something to look into in the future - Ditch my $50 / month DSL and $60 / month iphone data plans. of course, then there is the wife's phone when she is not with me...... ruff!!
 
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Mine has started trending down as it's warmed up. Then I traveled a lot in April so I was on 3G more. Not sure what the hell I was doing in November and December.
 
They are in a lot of places actually. Pretty much every Starbucks uses AT&T wifi. Also some hotels use AT&T wifi. I was pleasantly surprised by that realization when staying at the Taj in Atlantic City. The iPhone also automatically connects you to any detected AT&T wifi hotspot without any need to jump through hoops, so I think it's a great service.

Take a look at this website. Supposingly they keep it up to date. Plus, you can access any wifi that is not locked down.

http://www.wififreespot.com/
 
BTW,

How does the tethering work? Is it only one device via the cord only or does it allow wireless via an ad hoc network making the iphone a hot spot?
 
So it might take a high-tech telecommunications company up to five business days to give me an (now) inaccurate update of my data usage? Why business days if this is all being done by computers that run 24/7 ?
 
Gee, thanks AT&T. This will be so handy as you've set us up a new thing to get worried about. Do I want the stress of a lower plan and constant monitoring? Or just simply curse AT&T each month with the exorbitant rate of a higher plan? Decisions, decisions...

When does the Verizon iPhone come out? Seriously.

I'm with you.

I'm old enough to remember when AT&T has a monopoly with landlines (pre-cell days). They were greedy then, too. $1+ per minute for long distance. Gas was $0.35 per gallon. It seems that AT&T corporate philosophy is minimum customer service at maximum dollars.

I'm a big Apple fan and stockholder. I switched to AT&T (and experienced lower quality service) just to jet an iPhone. I lived with AT&T because I like the iPhone enough to put up with inferior service. Now their new pricing plans just confirm my experience. AT&T sucks.

So I'll either continue jailbreaking (just to have tethering), get a Droid and a better carrier, or hope that Apple decides to release a Verizon model.

I'm sure this rant will fall on deaf ears at AT&T. Why should they not screw their customers? They have a monopoly with Apple.
 
BTW,

How does the tethering work? Is it only one device via the cord only or does it allow wireless via an ad hoc network making the iphone a hot spot?

With the current iPhone it's over a cable.

It's looking like the 4th-gen will be the same, but it's impossible to say until it's officially announced.
 
A reasonable rate for the new plans would have been:

1. 100MB plan: $10 for the first 100MB, $5 for each additional 100MB
2. 1GB plan: $20 for the first 1GB, $5 for each additional GB

These plans would cost exactly the same as what is being offered by AT&T for 200MB and 2GB usage levels, but they would be much more practical (and attractive) for light and medium/heavy users of bandwidth. Yes, using 5GB would cost $40 instead of $30, that would only be a moderate (and arguably fair) rate increase for bandwidth hoggers who are most likely to shift to using more WiFi and less 3G as a result...
 
Folks need to stop trying to rationolize this bull from At&t. Yeah you may not be hitting that 2GB limit now, but future is filled with services that will need alot of bandwith, netflix, video chat, wireless syncing, etc. that will easily push pass that limit.

Which means that AT&T will have to add capacity to their network and that costs money. Why should I, who topped out at 500 MB during the busiest of the last 6 months, have to pay more so that AT&T can build a network that you can use to video sext your GF hourly?

Those who want to use more of the service should pay more. That's just fair. Until now, those who don't make such heavy use of the network have been subsidizing those who do. I say, screw that.
 
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