China Times Echoes Poor HomePod Sales and Rumors About Possible Lower-Priced Version

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    A new supply chain report out of Taiwan echoes a recent Bloomberg News story suggesting that HomePod sales have been lackluster, but as with most channel checks, it can be difficult to draw accurate conclusions.


    Namely, the China Times claims that Apple has reduced its HomePod shipment forecast to 200,000 units or less per month in the second quarter, down from around 500,000 units per month in the first quarter, due to lower-than-expected sales. Apple is also said to revise down its shipment forecast for all of 2018.

    HomePod sales may very well be lackluster, as a relatively niche product with an expensive $349 price tag, and given a handful of early reviews that criticized Siri's capabilities, but Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously warned against trying to interpret single data points from the supply chain.

    Cook on Apple's first quarter earnings call in 2013:
    For example, the China Times report only mentions Inventec and a few smaller suppliers affected by the cuts, despite reports that Foxconn would begin assembling HomePods alongside Inventec at some point in 2018. It's possible that Inventec has simply lost a portion of its orders as Apple diversifies its production.

    A few months have passed since the HomePod launched, too, so early adopters who were eagerly waiting to purchase the speaker have likely already done so. Just like an iPhone, sales can be expected to be strongest within the first few weeks of availability, followed by a gradual decline over time. Production cuts are to be expected.

    Moreover, the HomePod has yet to even launch outside of the United States, Australia, and the United Kingdom, so sales remain limited geographically. Apple said the speaker will launch in France and Germany later this spring.

    If sales are in fact poor, one way that Apple could boost interest is by offering a more affordable HomePod, and today's report echoes rumors about a possible lower-priced version. However, the report predicts that Apple wouldn't launch a revised or cheaper HomePod until at least the fourth quarter of this year.

    We'll likely never know exactly how well the HomePod is selling, as Apple said it will group the speaker under its "Other Products" category in its quarterly earnings reports, alongside the Apple Watch, Apple TV, AirPods, Beats, iPod, and more. But we'll be listening to the May 1 earnings call for any potential hints.

    Article Link: China Times Echoes Poor HomePod Sales and Rumors About Possible Lower-Priced Version
  2. sblemmy macrumors member


    Oct 24, 2013
    My Target has had the same two HomePods (one black, one white) in stock for weeks.

    HomePod is an underwhelming product. Both my wife and daughter miss the old Sonos: Play 1 we had before HomePod.
  3. Smartass macrumors 65816

    Dec 18, 2012
  4. macam macrumors regular

    Sep 6, 2005
    Greater London, UK
    If they reduced the price - they might get more sales... Just going to leave that on the table and let is stew.
  5. robertcoogan macrumors 6502


    Apr 5, 2008
    Joshua Tree, California
    I think much of the smart speaker "phenom" is overrated. I don't want to talk to my home, and I am sure most others don't want to as well.
  6. Mansu944 macrumors 6502

    Mar 11, 2012
    I was interested in getting one but after the last update killed the bass I’m less interested. I’ll still probably pull the trigger here in the next few months.
  7. Aluminum213 macrumors 68040


    Mar 16, 2012
    Apple releasing a dumb speaker for $350 isn’t going to be acceptable in 2018

    Siri can’t even set two timers at once on the thing haha
  8. deanthedev Suspended


    Sep 29, 2017

    Has an analyst EVER been right about Apple product sales drops/production? Even once?
  9. Bdub12 macrumors regular

    Feb 23, 2011
    Fredericton NB Canada
    I love my HomePods. Maybe the sluggish sales will accelerate the addition of third-party services like SiriusXM and iHeartradio.
  10. alex00100 macrumors 6502

    Mar 17, 2011
    Moscow, Russia
    The sales are fine. 200k is great for a device like this. A drop is completely normal after the hype of the release.
  11. RogerWilco macrumors 6502a


    Jul 29, 2011
    I'm waiting for the HomePod vs. Eneby faceoff -- we know which product has the sales numbers. Hey Phil Schiller, the phone is ringing...
  12. TwoBytes macrumors 68020


    Jun 2, 2008
    'Hey Siri, what's cheaper, 3 amazon echos or one homepod?'

    'would you like to do a web search?'
  13. 4jasontv, Apr 12, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2018

    4jasontv macrumors 65816

    Jul 31, 2011
    meh. I hate talking to my machines. It’s not that they don’t understand, it’s that it feels so disruptive. If I ask her to shut off a light, just do it. We aren’t dating. You don’t need the final word.
  14. jjhny macrumors regular


    Sep 16, 2005
    If I want good sound there are better speakers for less. Siri just isn't very good.

    I sometimes wonder if Siri just recognizes one word I say, and then pulls a random response from a list.

    Tim better get the computers updated soon! Your pet projects aren't working.
  15. nburwell macrumors 68040


    May 6, 2008
    $350 for a speaker that is essentially used to listen to Apple Music is a bit much IMO. I love my Google Home and I paid a fraction of the price that the HomePod is going for. Yes, the HomePod sounds better, but I'm no audiophile. Plus, Google Assistance vs. Siri is not even close.

    I doubt Apple would reduce the price of the HomePod's, but if they would improve Siri that would certainly make the HomePod more desirable IMO.
  16. nwcs macrumors 65816


    Sep 21, 2009
    I had 2 echos for about 18 months and replaced them with 2 HomePods. I’m happy with the change and I expect Apple to improve the functionality available over the course of this year.
  17. yaxomoxay macrumors 68020


    Mar 3, 2010
    Did they really expect a different result?
    They had to fix Siri before releasing this product.
  18. iPhone89 macrumors newbie


    Sep 19, 2012
    Connecticut, USA
    This is a miss for Apple. I am a musician who owned an Alexa Dot and always used a Bose wireless speaker to listen to Spotify. Naturally I was excited to see an all in one product that would jive with my Apple ecosystem and that was supposed to sound far superior to any other smart speaker on the market. I had several issues with HomePod, and subsequently I sent it back.

    - Siri was not as smart as Alexa, and couldn't even read from or add to my calendar. Even Alexa can do this with iCloud accounts!
    - HomeKit is a nightmare. The interface is terrible, and I live with a roommate who already had a HomeKit set up with his Hue lighting across the house. I've added my bedroom/bathroom to that account, but HomePod had a hard time with being signed in under my account while reading the Hue data off of his Home.
    - I like the amount of bass, but the wide separation between the lows and highs was a bit much. I found myself wanting to adjust things, but couldn't due to lack of EQ controls.
    - You cannot link more than one speaker yet. This is a selling point for me since I live in a split level with a bathroom on the lowest level and a bedroom two floors up.
    - Lack of third party app support. This was a deciding factor. I love Spotify - its streaming rate, its interface and app setup are far superior to Apple Music. I found myself fumbling around Apple Music and hating my experience. Things are clunky and hard to get to, the sound quality is slightly under Spotify, and I wasn't happy with having to access Apple Music through iTunes, which is hard enough to manage.

    Ultimately, I ended up returning HomePod and getting three Sonos One speakers with Alexa. Now I have one on every level of the house with easy linking and the freedom to use whatever sources I choose for music and podcasts, and freedom to customize how things sound. I think Apple definitely missed the mark with this product.
  19. citysnaps macrumors 68040

    Oct 10, 2011
    San Francisco
    You nailed it. Some people, even those who are not audiophiles, but still put high value on audio quality no matter the room's acoustics HomePod is placed in, are willing to pay more.

    Siri is HomePod's user interface to play music. And for that it works extremely well.
  20. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    I have always said the HomePod is a terrible product. Right up there with several other Apple product failures.
  21. Blackstick macrumors 6502


    Aug 11, 2014
    Sunny South Florida
    Google and Amazon have the edge on utility, mindshare and price... leaving Apple with only their Apple Music subscribers that don't mind the $349 premium.

    I'm a huge Apple fan, and this product isn't compelling at all.
  22. iriejedi macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2000
    Nor Cal
    As a fan boy... this is one of the silliest things Apple has done - I think they repurposed excess Trash Procan Chassis - Bluetooth speakers are cheap and not many people need home theater sound that is portable. All this amazing engineering and they can't make a iMacPro without a monitor (aka Modular Mac Pro)! Yup bringing it back full circle.... turned an HomePod story into a give me a new Mac Pro comment! :rolleyes:o_O:apple:;):cool::p:p:D:eek:
  23. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    200,000 per month for HomePod? I’d say that’s pretty good considering what the product is right now. It’s ridiculous to think the premium speaker category will have sales anything like smartphones.
  24. cliffster82 macrumors regular

    Sep 27, 2013
    Hopefully this means they will sell "refurbished" (aka on sale) units soon, or just do a price drop. The one I already have sounds amazing. I couldn't care any less about Siri, and anyway, she can be updated with software. If you have Apple Music you can't go wrong IMO.
  25. iriejedi macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2000
    Nor Cal
    If they made it shaped like a cube and not a trash can.... maybe sales would pick up! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    --- Post Merged, Apr 12, 2018 ---
    Air Play 2 and two sets of AirPods .... then just pick up the set in the area you are needing music... LOL A better deal....


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