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... The new version coming with the M5 processor will do even better. I know I will be upgrading from my M2 Vision Pro to the M5. My Vision Pro is the best computing device I own (which included iPad Pro and 14inc MacBook Pro).
The Apple VP is probably the most exciting tech I own. If there is a decent trade in price I may also upgrade to an M5 version as Apple 1st gen devices rarely give the best long term run (unless you keep them unopened for 20 years to sell to collectors).

As much as I love the VP and wow colleagues with guest mode demos, I have to admit I rarely use it. That's mainly down to the headaches it provokes, which I suspect stem from the lens insets being sent with the wrong strengths (something I'm planning to rectify but have surprised myself by not being in any particular rush).

Whilst fortunate to be in an income bracket where the VP is not an extravagance, I fully understand why its cost is the most common complaint ahead of content and comfort. That said, I prefer to pay extra in order to experience the quality of a device that does not feel compromised by cost factors. So all in all glad that Apple stuck to their guns even though it cannot be deemed a commercial success.

Do I recommend the Apple VP? Not to anyone to whom it would stretch their budget.

Would I consider buying a Vivo Vision or Samsung's upcoming alternative even if they were significantly cheaper? No, because I'm too invested in Apple's ecosystem.. but I know I'd have lots of fun trying them.
 
Good question, I remember when Apple sued Samsung for making a phone with a rectangular body, square-ish corners, and glass front... and won.
It was a blatant copy. They copied everything including the OS aesthetics. For reference, this was Samsung’s phone when the first iPhone came out. Apple won for a reason.
 

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I do not think it's a bad thing that companies are copying the Vision Pro; it may help start alternate solutions. The more players involved, the better, with everyone feeding off each other.
 
The Vision Pro out sold both the Mac Studio and Mac Pro. The new version coming with the M5 processor will do even better. I know I will be upgrading from my M2 Vision Pro to the M5. My Vision Pro is the best computing device I own (which included iPad Pro and 14inc MacBook Pro).

As for the Chinese product, if it's good and proves somewhat popular, than that would be good competition for Apple. It is certainly true that in the field of electric cars, China is doing a much better job than American companies to date.

Thanks for pointing this out ... yes, the Chinese electric car industry is vastly more successful than the US electric car industry. They implemented an integrated long term strategy, starting more than a decade ago and are now reaping the benefit ... indeed all of us who can buy Chinese electric cars are benefitting as well (effectively banned from the US).

There is a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment being expressed here, remember this is an international forum and not everyone thinks the US or its culture is wonderful.

In the field of consumer electronics, nearly all the innovation is now coming out of China; of course, that does not mean everything coming out of China is innovative! In the field of displays think of XREAL's Air products, <$500 for a very impressive smart glasses 3D display and including a 3D camera. In contrast, Apple's products are increasingly boring and laughably expensive.
 
Actually, this can be a win for Apple. People in a bigger mass will start using this kind of (clumsy) device, that however will fail eventually (because you can't copy quality easily), and then.. they are more willing to pay the price tag of a premium product.
 
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It seems like all the usual suspects are here to make snide remarks about the Vision Pro. One wonders why, if Apple's design is so horrible, other companies are copying it. This is the third or fourth one I've seen. The others are nowhere near the Vision Pro in function or resolution. It will be interesting to see the spec on Vivo's knock off.
 
Will it also be a flop?

The Vision Pro is not a flop. Why do people keep repeating that nonsense? It was called "Pro" because it's targeting the professional market, so if you eliminate all of the gamers and casual consumer users, how is it doing in the Professional segment? Probably pretty good!

But the best is yet to come. We all know that Apple is playing the long game here.

As for the Vivo Vision, normally, I'd be shaking my head at the copying of the Vision Pro, but we're way past that now. It's a testament that Apple is on the right track!

The best is yet to come!
 
No surprises China is ripping it off so blatantly theres no intellectual property protection in China unless its a Chinese companies IP like DJI.
 
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Good question, I remember when Apple sued Samsung for making a phone with a rectangular body, square-ish corners, and glass front... and won.
To be fair, it was beyond just the physical resemblance of the phones design (which at the time, was rather unique). It also was heavily focused on user interface and other patented functionality such as smooth scrolling or bounce back from edge of page.

I think it was eventually overturned and they settled out of court. It really wasn’t that ridiculous of a case as it was nearly universally accepted at the time to be Samsung’s “iPhone clone”.
 
It seems like all the usual suspects are here to make snide remarks about the Vision Pro. One wonders why, if Apple's design is so horrible, other companies are copying it. This is the third or fourth one I've seen. The others are nowhere near the Vision Pro in function or resolution. It will be interesting to see the spec on Vivo's knock off.
Chinese companies will copy anything with the name Apple on it. Merits of the design are irrelevant
 
Chinese companies, helped by their government, massively and shamelessly copy Western research, development, and products. No respect for copyrights and intellectual property. Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer. Does anyone seriously think Deep Seek was able to develop its top-rated model on its own, in no time and with just 5 million dollars?
 
Chinese companies, helped by their government, massively and shamelessly copy Western research, development, and products. No respect for copyrights and intellectual property. Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer. Does anyone seriously think Deep Seek was able to develop its top-rated model on its own, in no time and with just 5 million dollars?
This is how Chinese companies works, they prefer to make things "cheap" and "looks similar to the original".
 
how is this even allowed LMAO
If it’s a product sold in China, US copyright laws don’t apply. I can’t think of the brand, but there is one phone brand sold there that copies everything from the Apple Store to making the operating system look like iOS. It’s been a while since I’ve been to China so this brand may not be a thing anymore.

If they were selling these devices in the USA or Europe, Apple would put a stop to it, but it’s China so it’s fine. In a way it gives China an advantage because they can innovate without being hindered by copyright restrictions. Think of all the difficulty Apple is having with the Apple Watch. Because of copyright law, someone sued them now the Apple Watch doesn’t have an oxygen sensor.

China doesn’t have this problem. If they want to make a watch with an oxygen sensor, then they do it. If the company that designed the oxygen sensor wants to copy another companies technology, they do it as well. The idea is the masses benefit, but the downside is the corporations who designed these technologies don’t benefit individually. It’s a completely different culture.
 
If it’s a product sold in China, US copyright laws don’t apply. I can’t think of the brand, but there is one phone brand sold there that copies everything from the Apple Store to making the operating system look like iOS. It’s been a while since I’ve been to China so this brand may not be a thing anymore.

If they were selling these devices in the USA or Europe, Apple would put a stop to it, but it’s China so it’s fine. In a way it gives China an advantage because they can innovate without being hindered by copyright restrictions. Think of all the difficulty Apple is having with the Apple Watch. Because of copyright law, someone sued them now the Apple Watch doesn’t have an oxygen sensor.

China doesn’t have this problem. If they want to make a watch with an oxygen sensor, then they do it. If the company that designed the oxygen sensor wants to copy another companies technology, they do it as well. The idea is the masses benefit, but the downside is the corporations who designed these technologies don’t benefit individually. It’s a completely different culture.
so copyright laws are purposefully not enforced there to allow the market to thrive? it's strange to me how Apple can't do anything about it when it sells its products in China.
 
Not surprised to see others copy. Waiting to hear about the price. Will definitely be much cheaper than Vision Pro. Apple will have to get the price much lower and increase its availability to more countries.
 
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