China's 'Vivo Vision' Overtly Copies Apple Vision Pro Design

[ChrisMac47]

Chinese companies, helped by their government, massively and shamelessly copy Western research, development, and products. No respect for copyrights and intellectual property. Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer. Does anyone seriously think Deep Seek was able to develop its top-rated model on its own, in no time and with just 5 million dollars?

There is a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment being expressed here, remember this is an international forum.

If you study the scientific literature, you'll see that more than 50% of the scientific papers published in the top peer-reviewed engineering journals are from China, and this has been the case for around 5 years now. The investment in R&D in China has been immense in the past decade or two. This huge scientific effort is quite focussed on "useful" engineering and is now filtering through to companies and products.

That's what we are seeing now: China is the place where there is most innovation ... not withstanding this "copycat" headset by Vivo! But look to other developments in China, such as XREAL's Air Smartglasses, excellent usability and performance for <$500, including your own stereo camera for creating your own content.

As for "Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer." that how progress is made: people beaver away on a topic but get stuck into one way of thinking ... then someone comes along and points out an "obvious" idea (only obvious afterwards!) which changes the approach drastically. I know several people in AI who felt the conventional brute-force approach to AI/ML of the big US companies was stupid but they could come up with an alternative ... until Deep Seek pointed out the "obvious".

It's called progress and we should all welcome it.

 

[cicalinarrot]

Chinese companies are all like this, they only know how to plagiarize.

That's some wild generalization that conveniently omits how many of the biggest US based companies were born with copycat products.
So I'll just call it plain racism.

 

[CarAnalogy]

how is this even allowed LMAO

Outside of China, it likely won't be. Inside of China, they play by their own rules.

 

[CarAnalogy]

There is a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment being expressed here, remember this is an international forum.

If you study the scientific literature, you'll see that more than 50% of the scientific papers published in the top peer-reviewed engineering journals are from China, and this has been the case for around 5 years now. The investment in R&D in China has been immense in the past decade or two. This huge scientific effort is quite focussed on "useful" engineering and is now filtering through to companies and products.

That's what we are seeing now: China is the place where there is most innovation ... not withstanding this "copycat" headset by Vivo! But look to other developments in China, such as XREAL's Air Smartglasses, excellent usability and performance for <$500, including your own stereo camera for creating your own content.

As for "Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer." that how progress is made: people beaver away on a topic but get stuck into one way of thinking ... then someone comes along and points out an "obvious" idea (only obvious afterwards!) which changes the approach drastically. I know several people in AI who felt the conventional brute-force approach to AI/ML of the big US companies was stupid but they could come up with an alternative ... until Deep Seek pointed out the "obvious".

It's called progress and we should all welcome it.

That is one aspect of it.

Another aspect is that they don't have to copy it, American companies already gave them all the designs to manufacture it. They're the only ones that can actually physically make any of it, and American companies chose to make it this way. One might say that the Chinese "own the means of production."

And just like the US has its own laws and allows what it wants to allow within its borders, so do the Chinese.

Those two factors combine to put US companies in an awkward position sometimes, like this.

 

[russell_314]

so copyright laws are purposefully not enforced there to allow the market to thrive? it's strange to me how Apple can't do anything about it when it sells its products in China.

What do you think Apple could do? Apple is a corporation. China is a country with over a billion people. Apple can’t change the culture of China

 

[russell_314]

There is a lot of anti-Chinese sentiment being expressed here, remember this is an international forum.

If you study the scientific literature, you'll see that more than 50% of the scientific papers published in the top peer-reviewed engineering journals are from China, and this has been the case for around 5 years now. The investment in R&D in China has been immense in the past decade or two. This huge scientific effort is quite focussed on "useful" engineering and is now filtering through to companies and products.

That's what we are seeing now: China is the place where there is most innovation ... not withstanding this "copycat" headset by Vivo! But look to other developments in China, such as XREAL's Air Smartglasses, excellent usability and performance for <$500, including your own stereo camera for creating your own content.

As for "Take AI for example: years of research and billions invested by US players, only to get outstripped by a Chinese newcomer." that how progress is made: people beaver away on a topic but get stuck into one way of thinking ... then someone comes along and points out an "obvious" idea (only obvious afterwards!) which changes the approach drastically. I know several people in AI who felt the conventional brute-force approach to AI/ML of the big US companies was stupid but they could come up with an alternative ... until Deep Seek pointed out the "obvious".

It's called progress and we should all welcome it.

People will always find something to separate and divide. “I don’t like you because you are X or you believe X” is far too common now

 

[Expos of 1969]

What do you think Apple could do? Apple is a corporation. China is a country with over a billion people. Apple can’t change the culture of China

And Apple has to walk a fine line over there. It is in no position to start throwing its limited weight around.

 

[xaanaax]

Yep, just another snowboarding googles design

 

[goldmac2006]

Only difference is that it is smaller and the grey is darker. Nearly 1:1

 

[Abazigal]

I wonder if this will become another AirPods moment where Apple design is initially mocked, but then subsequently goes on to define the industry.

 

[UK-MacAddict]

I think this is actually much more powerful and performs better than Vision Pro looking at the specs, looks nicer too.

 

[BrandoCalrissian]

Good question, I remember when Apple sued Samsung for making a phone with a rectangular body, square-ish corners, and glass front... and won.

Samsung took it a lot farther than that.