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In regards to 6 vs 6 plus, here in tokyo I see 20 iP6 for every 1 iP6+.

That could be because there are another 19 iP6+ backordered for thsoe 20 iP6.

We'll only know how it worked out in maybe 3-6 months when supply is unconstrained and network stats will tell the true story.
 
I don't care if they all worked at Foxconn making $2.00 a day. 1.3 billion is a big number for only 1 million pre orders regardless of the poverty levels.

They have less people than the USA on wages (mostly bribes/corruption proceeds actually, not wages) that could afford one, that's the point. Also it's a cash society (people with $$$ don't store it in the bank because the currency fluctuates too much and they'll get found out/punished if state-owned banks know exactly how much they have, and who from). So pre-orders are more difficult. People will be walking into stores with wads of cash rather than plastic (so won't order online, giving state-owned banks a record of all the luxury goods they have purchased).

I get your point, but they should be expected to sell less than the USA. We'll see how many they sell in the first weekend THEN comment. This figure means nothing.
 
Still plenty in Hong Kong sadly.

Isn't this the phone the Sunday NY Times so gleefully announced was a flop because the grey market ones weren't selling in China? The story was similar here in Singapore, lots of people buying to flip and I hear that flipping wasn't so lucrative this year.

Looks like there is in fact plenty of demand, but Apple have priced the phone just at the right point that people are prepared to pay retail, but not scalper premium to get a phone a couple of weeks early; possibly because Apple has become better at ramping up the supply to meet the demand.
 
I don't care if they all worked at Foxconn making $2.00 a day. 1.3 billion is a big number for only 1 million pre orders regardless of the poverty levels.

Not if you can't afford the phone. Poverty matters, so you really need to look at the numbers with a income that can afford a smart phone.
 
About 50 miliion Chinese people are milionaires. While people in China are not rich in general, there are still plenty of Chinese people who can buy new iPhone every year.
 
About 50 miliion Chinese people are milionaires. While people in China are not rich in general, there are still plenty of Chinese people who can buy new iPhone every year.

Truely rich people in China wouldn't wait to buy the phone on contract. They'd buy it in CASH.

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Isn't this the phone the Sunday NY Times so gleefully announced was a flop because the grey market ones weren't selling in China? The story was similar here in Singapore, lots of people buying to flip and I hear that flipping wasn't so lucrative this year.

Looks like there is in fact plenty of demand, but Apple have priced the phone just at the right point that people are prepared to pay retail, but not scalper premium to get a phone a couple of weeks early; possibly because Apple has become better at ramping up the supply to meet the demand.

When it comes to Apple, NYT, Forbes, Bloomberg and the WSJ have zero credibility.
 
Show of hands.
Who here still thinks Apple needs to build a low-end cheap-ass iPhone for China?

Yeah. Leave the low-end cheap-ass "smart" phone market to the Xiaomis of the world.
(This is something that Samsung will be learning very soon.)
 
Isn't this the phone the Sunday NY Times so gleefully announced was a flop because the grey market ones weren't selling in China? The story was similar here in Singapore, lots of people buying to flip and I hear that flipping wasn't so lucrative this year.

Looks like there is in fact plenty of demand, but Apple have priced the phone just at the right point that people are prepared to pay retail, but not scalper premium to get a phone a couple of weeks early; possibly because Apple has become better at ramping up the supply to meet the demand.

I used to think that the silly season for tech press coverage of Apple took place in August when you have all the supply chain rumors and pump and dump propaganda trading back and forth. The handwringing is a predictable annual occurrence, as are the record-breaking launch sales.

But, now the foolishness seems to have extended into the overseas launches, since those still at least some aura of unpredictability. I put the NY Times story about falling scalper prices into the same category as that gem last week about how Samsung's troubles are bad news for Apple.

Common sense simply indicates that Apple announcing an actual launch date for the iPhone in China would OF COURSE be bad for scalper prices. Not too many people will pay more than double the retail price just to have bragging rights on a product that every will be able to buy in less than two weeks.

But, alas, the tech press has a bunch of "Apple is doomed" conclusions waiting for a few facts to fill in the blanks -- no matter how disconnected from the conclusions those facts actually are.
 
So much for this being the ugliest, biggest, dumbest, most bendable iPhone ever.

Even I hate to admit it but the 6 is by far the most compelling iPhone I've ever seen since the 3G . . . . which was the last iPhone I owned.

Not that this statement takes away any credit from the competition, just that I'm glad Apple decided to listen to the users and make a phone with a bigger screen, less glass, and more tablet like features in the 6 Plus.
 
Common sense simply indicates that Apple announcing an actual launch date for the iPhone in China would OF COURSE be bad for scalper prices. Not too many people will pay more than double the retail price just to have bragging rights on a product that every will be able to buy in less than two weeks.

Could it be that more people in China understand properly how capitalism works? I suppose two years ago if a product was offered by scalpers for top money, people thought "I have to pay this money to get the product". And today the same people think "I have to pay this money to get the product today, and much less, with better warranty and service, from a real store, in two weeks time, and these guys are just trying to rip inexperienced customers off".
 
I don't care if they all worked at Foxconn making $2.00 a day. 1.3 billion is a big number for only 1 million pre orders regardless of the poverty levels.

iPhone is facing significant competition from Samsung and domestic Android devices. The iPhone is not very practical in China and merely a status symbol.
 
About 50 miliion Chinese people are milionaires. While people in China are not rich in general, there are still plenty of Chinese people who can buy new iPhone every year.

Where'd you pull that number? out of your ?

China has around 2.5 million "millionaire" households. Far from 50.
 
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