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Chinese Forum Poster Claims Next Generation iPhone Details
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There have been reports of two models of iPhone. This may be the "low end" version for the kids.
And a 50% increase to processor speed, 100% increase to RAM, possible significant increases in 3G speed with minor impact on the battery is not spectacular?
Here's some perspective for you - in a world of little tiny step changes and improvements, this is a pretty big upgrade. Especially when referring to cell phones.
I should have clarified. I was basically referring to SLRs as that's where I have more experience. I'd rather have a crappy kit Rebel XSI or similar than some old 3.2mp with a 24-105L (which is a lens that I own and love).
Last autumn my digital prof wouldn't let me print beyond 11x14" on my 10mp 40d. He actually thought that size was pushing the limits of what 10mp could do and preferred I print 8x10". But I'll just have to deal until I can save up for the 5d mk II. Full frame = this is the pixel density you are looking for.
I do wish the iPhone was more like a point and shoot camera in quality. I don't have a camera that I can just throw in my pocket that takes decent shots. My SLR doesn't fit. I'd prefer to not purchase another camera, but I've been considering it, especially since they're so ridiculously cheap nowadays. Although thats just another thing to throw in the pocket...
I personally think the iPhone has a decent sensor right now, when used in sunlight, but it's terrible in low light and especially sucky at white balance. Everytime I take a picture of my daughter in the pool her skin turns orange because it reconsiders the overwhelming blues.
Yes! That is what I am talking about! I think that will be the differentiating feature between the high and low end models.
America isn't ready for that. AT&T only supports one way video calls. It'll no doubt be a charge that, atleast right now, might make so little sense to most people. Not to mention it's gotta make it's way into everyone's phone before it's feasible. Being first isn't always the best idea.
Are you guys serious?iPhone -> iPhone3G = faster network access, gps, upgraded capacity
iPhone3G -> iPhone 2009 = faster processor, ram, magnetometer for augmented reality and precision control, upgraded camera resolution/optics for better pictures and video recording/editing on the device, upgraded capacity
The iPhone 3G had 2 selling points that Apple marketed agressivly: 3G speed and GPS
This spec list has 2 marketing selling points: magnetometer, and photo/video capabilities as well as faster overall performance
Seems like a perfectly fine upgrade to me. Plenty to push me over the edge, personally, and just enough to make everyone else buy one too.
and what would the "high end" iPhone include more than these specs? a front facing camera?! give me a break, this is Apple, not nokia. They'll save that feature to sell iPhones next year, this one has plenty of features to sell like hotcakes.
Seriously though, what would the "iPhone Pro" have that this one doesn't? (a slide out keyboard will never happen)
I'm happy
If this is all that changes, I'll still buy it. I bought the 3G for the space increase and that's enough to get me to buy this one. Seems every time I get more space I figure out new interesting ways to fill it out.
This time all of my music would fit into 32gb with room to spare (I'm no trash-music packrat like some...) so no more trying to figure out which playlists I actually want and so on.
A boost in CPU speed would do a few of my favorite games a lot of good, as would the boost in ram. In fact, this boost in ram would be a game changer for any performance issues you ever notice.
The compass = navigation system. Woot!
So if we get just these things, I'll be very pleased. Oh, yeah, and not to mention iPhone OS 3.0 :-D Push notifications! woo!
I'm excited, apple brings more innovation/improvement each year with this one handset than most any other handset maker brings in half a decade. Glad I took the plunge a couple years back and went iPhone.
If this is all that changes, I'll still buy it. I bought the 3G for the space increase and that's enough to get me to buy this one. Seems every time I get more space I figure out new interesting ways to fill it out.
This time all of my music would fit into 32gb with room to spare (I'm no trash-music packrat like some...) so no more trying to figure out which playlists I actually want and so on.
A boost in CPU speed would do a few of my favorite games a lot of good, as would the boost in ram. In fact, this boost in ram would be a game changer for any performance issues you ever notice.
The compass = navigation system. Woot!
So if we get just these things, I'll be very pleased. Oh, yeah, and not to mention iPhone OS 3.0 :-D Push notifications! woo!
I'm excited, apple brings more innovation/improvement each year with this one handset than most any other handset maker brings in half a decade. Glad I took the plunge a couple years back and went iPhone.
You (and your professor) should realise that print resolution/size is dependent on your viewing distance. If you're going to be viewing from a certain distance, you don't need as high resolution.
As for higher resolution on a sensor, this is also dependent on sensor size. On an SLR, you can get away with higher resolution, because absolute pixel size is larger. How big do you think the sensor in a cellphone cam is? There will be an upper limit that is much lower than an SLR -sized sensor, whereby the image quality really goes down due to a low signal to noise ratio.
Apple Insider pointed the 3.5 network out as cause for disbelief but then I looked at my iPhone running Beta 5 and it says 3.5 too.
I think this is probably legit. The only thing I doubt a bit is the FM. Everything else is pretty much what all the other sources have been saying.
Hopefully this is just the "regular" iPhone and there will be a separate iPhone Pro that will be more revolutionary.
I really can't believe some of the yawns about this rumoured update.
Overall the specs seem inline with reasonable expectations and are by no means trivial - double the RAM, double the storage capacity, and a 50% increase in processor speed? Add to that a digital compass, a higher resolution camera along with autofocus.
So basically, if Apple released a new iMac tomorrow, with a 4.5Ghz processor, 2TB HDD and 8GB OF RAM as a replacement for the current 3.06 machine it would illicit the same level of boredom and cries of crapola?
I can understand it being not quite enough to cause someone to upgrade from the immediate predecessor, but cries of lame/Dud shout spoiled to me. What the heck else do you expect? A HD DLP, an Argon laser to vanquish your foes?
And a 3.2M camera, if properly executed, can be quite effective. It's a phone for cryin out loud. If your looking for photographic nirvana your holding the wrong tool anyway. 90% of the 8-12M P&S cameras on the market today are total crap from an image quality perspective. What good is increased resolution when half of it is noise? And any sensor that will be small enough to fit on a phone is gonna have photosites too small to be high quality from a noise perspective.
And after photosite size, the next important area in digital photography is image processing, it can make lightyears of difference. Sure optics are important, but any optics company worth it's salt can crank out a decent fixed focal length lens, which is all we are likely to get.
End of rant - to me it sounds like a pretty solid update.
its a fake
im going to say its fake just by looking at the picture because where it says carrier it say AT&T3.5 instead of AT&T 3.5 like how it should say. so im going to say its shopped b/c of that mistake
im going to say its fake just by looking at the picture because where it says carrier it say AT&T3.5 instead of AT&T 3.5 like how it should say. so im going to say its shopped b/c of that mistake
Well there were a whole rumours before that Apple would introduce different iPhone versions now. A more budget focused version, a Pro version, and perhaps a special market one for China since I believe they don't want to allow WiFi on the phone.
Personally, I'm looking for the rumours of a new PowerVR SGX based GPU to be true to introduce OpenGL ES 2.0 for shaders and OpenCL support. I'm not really a supporter of the quad-core ARM rumours, since it doesn't seem likely a handheld device could make use of it at this time and it'd just waste power. A dual-core ARM CPU would be nice though.
Wow I guess I don't really care that much. (Can I see what it looks like?)
Let's put it this way, I currently have the 1st gen iPhone. I am eligible to upgrade at anytime. Case closed! I'm upgrading no matter the specs are, Think about it this way it can't get worse
People it's just rumored specs so relax, Apple never really leaves us hanging (Well not for long anyways). Besides no matter what happens, this phone is still revolutionary. . . Thanks
And people stop with the whole "High-End Model" crap, If anything we should all be able to have the same specs/hardware, just different storage. It would be lame to go back to the $499 pricing for the "High End model" and only a few people with it, just for something the "Low End model" doesn't have I.E a front facing camera. Either way I'm still getting the "High End model"
Let's put it this way, I currently have the 1st gen iPhone. I am eligible to upgrade at anytime. Case closed! I'm upgrading no matter the specs are, Think about it this way it can't get worse
People it's just rumored specs so relax, Apple never really leaves us hanging (Well not for long anyways). Besides no matter what happens, this phone is still revolutionary. . . Thanks
And people stop with the whole "High-End Model" crap, If anything we should all be able to have the same specs/hardware, just different storage. It would be lame to go back to the $499 pricing for the "High End model" and only a few people with it, just for something the "Low End model" doesn't have I.E a front facing camera. Either way I'm still getting the "High End model"
Well, considering we are students, we aren't printing these for billboards. Neither are we shooting portraits to fill the walls with half-naked wonder at the Abercrombie and Fitch. These are to be viewed rather close-up at the student exhibition gallery for our senior shows.
As for signal to noise ratios, see my OP. I recognize that the iPhone has a tiny sensor only millimeters across, as do many other cell phones. I stated that I wish they could somehow enlarge the sensor so that the noise would be reduced. We just ended up diverging onto a tangent about SLRs because someone made the statement that megapixels are completely unimportant and that only optics matter which is a ridiculous statement. As for a solution, I would look towards what Sony has sone with the T900 and previous series in that line. 12mp, 4x optical zoom in a package about as thin as an iPhone using a sort of periscope.
Now I'm not looking for something that crazy, but I'd be more than happy with 5mp 2x optical zoom. There have been advances recently into micro zoom and focusing units which basically behave like muscular membranes that are rather bleeding edge and amazing. I'm sure that it will be many years before these make it into cell phones but this is the sort of advanced tech that I hope Apple is looking into.
"No major changes in battery, screen and external casing"? So basically that means the case cracking, light leaking, and numerous screen defects will still be there? If this is true I will not even bother upgrading to the new model, I'll just be selling off my current iPhone and switching to the Pre. It's hard to believe that Apple wouldn't address these obviously widespread issues in a new model, but then again it's hard to believe they haven't been addressed TEN MONTHS after release.