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Shouldn't this be on page 2? If we don't know anything or if there's no track record, that sounds like page 2 material.
 
MP doesn't matter as long as the optics are good.

I couldn't agree more.

The advertising seems to be working great.
Too many people get sucked into the Megapixel myth that more is better. You take a current 12MP compact point and shoot and compare it to a 6 year old 6MP Canon 10D (just one example), or a 4MP Canon 1D and there is no comparison in image quality. Yeah, I know, the Canon is a DSLR. My point is that the hardware and software that make up an imaging device is far more important than the amount of pixels.

What good would a 5? megapixel camera phone be if it cannot capture clean, sharp, well exposed photos. Unless you don't care about picture quality and just want to look at a big image on your monitor.

I think a 3.2MP camera in a phone that takes good photos would be good enough for a lot of people. If you really need big megapixel count wherever you go, you might want to carry a camera with you because a high MP phone is probably going to look like crap until they figure out how to do it right.

Stop believing all the advertising. Megapixels are not everything.

I'm done. Sorry.
 
Wait- if the updates are limited to this, why are all those video editing images and what not found in the os 3.0?
 
I believe this is real

TBH All I expect from the new iPhone is a camera on the face and mobile iChat. Same casing kinda scares me but we'll see on June anyways

:apple:
 
Well, considering we are students, we aren't printing these for billboards. Neither are we shooting portraits to fill the walls with half-naked wonder at the Abercrombie and Fitch. These are to be viewed rather close-up at the student exhibition gallery for our senior shows.

As for signal to noise ratios, see my OP. I recognize that the iPhone has a tiny sensor only millimeters across, as do many other cell phones. I stated that I wish they could somehow enlarge the sensor so that the noise would be reduced. We just ended up diverging onto a tangent about SLRs because someone made the statement that megapixels are completely unimportant and that only optics matter which is a ridiculous statement. As for a solution, I would look towards what Sony has sone with the T900 and previous series in that line. 12mp, 4x optical zoom in a package about as thin as an iPhone using a sort of periscope.

Now I'm not looking for something that crazy, but I'd be more than happy with 5mp 2x optical zoom. There have been advances recently into micro zoom and focusing units which basically behave like muscular membranes that are rather bleeding edge and amazing. I'm sure that it will be many years before these make it into cell phones but this is the sort of advanced tech that I hope Apple is looking into.

5mp sounds like the upper limit with current tech. Anything above that I'd like to see some improvement in light gathering of the pixels. (I know some newer cellphones have gone much higher)
 
FM ? fail !!

There's no chance there will be anything FM in the next iPhone, so you can write this one off.

People have been wishing that for iPods for years. Can't see it happeing, now.

Yet the current iPhone even has a chip capable of receiving FM. The new chip is said to also support transmitting FM. So that backs up this rumor.

http://www.9to5mac.com/broadcom-BCM4329-iphone-802.11n-FM

Yet another reason why a new model won't do FM anything. It already has the capability and it's not used.
 
Sounds like a nice amount of RAM(heck my aging Mac is only 1.25Gbs)

Still a 3.2MP camera is a little weak, I hope we see improved software usage of the camera. Also no new battery is troubling...again, hope software can make it last longer.

32GB sounds good though!

obviously another person that thinks phones should take quality pictures:rolleyes:
 
5mp sounds like the upper limit with current tech. Anything above that I'd like to see some improvement in light gathering of the pixels. (I know some newer cellphones have gone much higher)

Yeah thats about what I thought it would be. Maybe in the future they could implement a microlens array to boost the light gathering ability?

I also forgot to mention this: If this is going to essentially be the "iPhone video" then they are going to need a better mic to pic up audio. I've used several of the recording apps available in the app store, and while the microphone on the 3g is better than the first gen, its still lacking in range, especially for recording lectures!
 
Meh. If those specs are true, it's not even enough to get me to upgrade from my original (EDGE) iPhone. And I do want to upgrade. A faster CPU is nice, but some web pages can take over 10x as long to load as on a desktop machine, using WiFi even.

I'll wait for 3.5G/4G data, an 800 MHz CPU (or multicore), and a higher resolution screen (720x480 would be good). I'm much more excited about the 3.0 software and mythical "media tablet" than the new iPhone hardware described here.

Same here... Assuming this is true, I see no compelling reason to upgrade from my Edge iPhone either; nothing that screams "you MUST buy me!!" I live in an area w/ zero 3G coverage, so the hardware improvements will have to be more substantial than what is suggested in the OP for me to upgrade...
 
Yay for faster processor. I'm tired of my slow iPhone. It's painfully slow in the Maps and YouTube apps sometimes.

It will also come in handy once "push" for the iPhone is out (3.0)
 
I do wish the iPhone was more like a point and shoot camera in quality. I don't have a camera that I can just throw in my pocket that takes decent shots. My SLR doesn't fit. I'd prefer to not purchase another camera, but I've been considering it, especially since they're so ridiculously cheap nowadays. Although thats just another thing to throw in the pocket...

the clue is in the name - iPhone
it's not called iCamera

if you're serious about photography, and evidently you are, you shouldn't be using _any_ phone to take pictures. they'll never compete with a proper camera
and they shouldn't have to either
 
The most important thing I want implemented is a new battery. I can't go a full day without running out of battery so I'm expecting better battery life/management than the current. The form factor remaining the same seems very accurate to me, but I'm still crossing my fingers for a new one. Black and Silver models, (instead of the white) please. And does MP really matter to you guys? The quality of camera phones (because of the lens) are terrible, so the MP really wouldn't make enough of a difference to justify it taking pictures.

32GB is good for me, with the amount of Apps I have on my Phone
 
i like the first one, just the camera is tooooooooooo bulky, get rid of that piece of crap and keep something simple, i know zoom can be added to the iphone (jail break apps make it happen) just keep the camera the way it is and add the zoom feature and will be good to go, and i love the ichat camera (great work on this version if it ever comes)

as for the second pic its wack, looks like it will be easy to break :cool:

Even if tastes are tastes.. you can't compare a [digital] "zoom feature" to an optical zoom... :rolleyes:
 
A RAM upgrade will be a sure-fire way to render previous iPhones and iPods obsolete as Developers will not be required to work so hard to keep apps under 25 MB of RAM usage.
 
Not interested unless they put in an OLED screen. Don't need a storage bump, and most cell phone cameras are a sorry excuse for a point and shoot replacement and aren't worth fooling with anyway, imho.

We'll just have to wait and see how much (if any) of this is true when apple announces the inevitable new model.
 
Not interested unless they put in an OLED screen. .

Then you won't be buying because Apple won't be putting an OLED screen in there. Why? Consumers - the real people who buy this stuff - don't care one whit about it.
 
Funny man :rolleyes:



I still think 5MP with good optics is not too much to ask


Yeah if you want a freaking bulge out the back. Trust me as a user of the N90, N93, N95 I know all about the megapixel game. There is so much noise in N95 shots that you wouldn't want to enlarge it more than 4x6. If you want to enlarge your photos get a $100 point and shoot, it will be better. My 4 year old 4MP Canon SD300 is far better than the N95 and its 5MP.

There is no way you can get a decent 5MP setup in something that thin. 3.2Mp will yield better results. Get over yourself and type "megapixel myth" into Google.

Only spec whores care about that number in the context of these design constraints.


BTW, these specs **** on the N97. I'm done with Nokia.
 
I'm missing some other previous rumors like:

1. what about multicore cpu / gpu ?
2. wheres the stereo sound over bluetooth support?
3. wheres oled?
4. what about the new 3G chipset with improved speeds?
5. what about 802.11n (so it doesn't make your router downscale to 802.11g)
6. what about the seperation of a high end and a low end iPhone?
7. what about FM transmitting and receiving?

any more missing rumors in this rumor?

ps. as mentioned before, 29,3 GB free is not realistic as the iPhone OS consumes quite some space

pps. AT&T on a Chinese phone is unlikely but could be plausible; if Chinese networks don't support the iPhone yet, they might just fly into the US for testing. I used to work for a hardware manufactures / consumer electronics company and that happens quite regularly only the other way round. It's sometimes easier to get people to the (test) hardware than hardware to the people. Perhaps the people and the hardware travelled to the US for a test with AT&T? :)


Then you won't be buying because Apple won't be putting an OLED screen in there. Why? Consumers - the real people who buy this stuff - don't care one whit about it.

If OLED increases battery life they will certainly be interested in that...
 
"No major changes in battery, screen and external casing"? So basically that means the case cracking, light leaking, and numerous screen defects will still be there? If this is true I will not even bother upgrading to the new model, I'll just be selling off my current iPhone and switching to the Pre. It's hard to believe that Apple wouldn't address these obviously widespread issues in a new model, but then again it's hard to believe they haven't been addressed TEN MONTHS after release.

No offence and all, but you're talking about a product that hasn't been released yet. Of any of the problems about the iPhone I haven't heard about light leaking but I'll take your word for it. These things could be fixed and the design would not have to be any different.

The Pre looks like a pretty good phone but just remeber that Palm doesn't suddenly have some special battery technology inside the Pre. They're using all off the shelf parts because they don't have the money for research. Chances are, with the Pre's background processes, battery life will be much worse. Conveniently, the Pre talks about many things on it's website but not battery life. It also has only 8GB of space and no video. The iPhone will have 32GB and video. Not only that it actually has more RAM than the Pre (I believe it is at 192). The only reason people complain about battery life is that you have a reason to use it. Other phones have great battery because they're phones give a lousy experience.
 
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