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Chrome Drops Safari Into Fourth Place Among Browsers

Chrome's gonna be successful on Windows because it's the only decent browser there IS for Windows (speed-wise, and Safari for Windows sucks).
Mac users still have got the best, Safari 4 is as fast and stable as Chrome BUT it doesn't rape your privacy, while completely integrated with the OS. So you've got both a great browser and a great system integration. OS X's the only platform when you can find this thing.
 
I've been using Chrome nightly builds for awhile and downloaded the official beta. It is definitely faster, Google will contribute a lot to webkit and make Safari better. The sandbox concept is innovative, especially when people have plenty of memory to make it not feel like a resource drag.

Safari is my prime browser for one reason: cookie management. Chrome has to be able to not accept third party/tracking cookies, or a lot of security freaks won't touch it and come up with a lot horror stories for the tech media to grab onto.

In the end, the competition is good, and all the linux geeks will be all over chrome when bloated FF is their only current browser choice.
 
That's because Chrome for Windows is amazing while Safari for Windows is almost as bad as iTunes for Windows. Safari on Mac is still better than anything on Windows...
 
IntelliUser said:
Chrome's gonna be successful on Windows because it's the only decent browser there IS for Windows (speed-wise, and Safari for Windows sucks).
Mac users still have got the best, Safari 4 is as fast and stable as Chrome BUT it doesn't rape your privacy, while completely integrated with the OS. So you've got both a great browser and a great system integration. OS X's the only platform when you can find this thing.
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Exactly how is Chrome raping your privacy?
 
generationxwing said:
I'd be all over Chrome if it didn't lack a Bookmark Manager. How on earth a "feature" as basic as that could be put off is beyond me. If you can't manage your bookmarks wtf is the point? Very stupid decision on Google's part.

That said, I can't stand Safari's bookmark system. I can handle the sidebar, but let me leave it open the whole time, don't close it when I choose a site. Or hey, give me a drop down menu.

Firefox does it for me.
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There is a Bookmark Manager menu item when you right click the bookmark bar, just greyed out for beta I would assume.

Here is the link for the nightly builds:

http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/

I have been using it solid for 2 weeks, getting the newest build so often. I like it, if it keeps the speed then bye Safari.
 
generationxwing said:
I'd be all over Chrome if it didn't lack a Bookmark Manager. How on earth a "feature" as basic as that could be put off is beyond me. If you can't manage your bookmarks wtf is the point? Very stupid decision on Google's part.
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Err, it's ctrl+shift+B, and is listed on the Tools menu.

Or was this left out of the Mac Beta?
 
Consider me one who will NOT try it out. I like Google's search engine. I like Google Maps. But where is this company going to stop? Microsoft is a mere mom & pop when you compare the two companies trying to dominate all computing 10 years apart. At least Microsoft charged you money for most of the stuff it sold. Google just seems to invent something and then throw it at us for free.

I know where the money comes from for the search engine. It worries me that Google is just using that money to develop all of this other stuff in order to route us all back to that search engine from EVERYTHING we do.
 
djellison said:
At this point, the usual 'oh - but flash is dreadful' apologists come in. Tough - Flash IS a massive massive part of the modern browsing experience, and it being a complete mess under OS X and Safari is why Safari has dropped to 4th.
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I'm no Apple apologist, and whilst I agree Flash is really hideous on Mac OSX, the same applies across all browsers on the platform... Flash on OS X is a mess, and Apple can do zilch about it unfortunately. I'm not entirely sure it's relevant to the browser debate, per-say.
 
Hopefully some competition will get Safari to add some advanced features that browsers like Firefox have had for years. I've started using Chrome since the Beta came out and am really liking it. It's a really nice browser, despite some of the lacking features. Safari has always been low on the customization front and for that reason I rarely use it, despite the fact that it is faster than any other browser, Chrome included, on my Mac. I'm glad to ditch Firefox lately though because the recent versions have been so bug ridden and painfully slow. Unless they get their act together, I think Firefox is going to see the biggest hit from Chrome in the long run. Safari at least has the benefit of being a default browser on Macs like IE is on PCs so there will always be a built-in audience there.
 
djellison said:
4th is where it should be - behind Chrome, Firefox, and I'm afraid to say, IE. IE + Flash on Windows is great compared to Safari+Fash/ The moment you're browsing modern flash rich websites, Safari is a mess.

At this point, the usual 'oh - but flash is dreadful' apologists come in. Tough - Flash IS a massive massive part of the modern browsing experience, and it being a complete mess under OS X and Safari is why Safari has dropped to 4th.
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Flash runs poorly on Chrome, Firefox, Shiira, Opera and Safari on Mac OS. Its the flash plug in that is buggered not the browser so your argument is rather flawed as there will be no difference between Flash on Safari and Flash on Chrome also they share the same rendering engine and execute Javascript about equally in speed therefor the argument of people switching to Chrome due to Safari's Flash performance is flawed.
 
Let the competitive games begin, cannot wait to see what :apple: has up its sleeves to crush IE and Chrome.

I use Safari on the Mac and Safari/Chrome on the PC due to speed and security and nothing more.
 
Webkit marketshare

I would think that Apple is happy to have Webkit competition driving the uptake of its rendering engine and HTML5 compliance. Webkit marketshare is far more important to Apple than Safari marketshare, as Webkit-tested sites will run well on a Mac, and that is what matters. Until IE becomes fully standards compliant (anyone holding his breath?), the important marketshare fight is Gecko/Webkit vs IE.
 
babyjenniferLB said:
Flash runs poorly on Chrome, Firefox, Shiira, Opera and Safari on Mac OS. Its the flash plug in that is buggered not the browser so your argument is rather flawed as there will be no difference between Flash on Safari and Flash on Chrome also they share the same rendering engine and execute Javascript about equally in speed therefor the argument of people switching to Chrome due to Safari's Flash performance is flawed.
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So in closing, flash needs to be replaced with something better. :D
 
Morky said:
I would think that Apple is happy to have Webkit competition driving the uptake of its rendering engine and HTML5 compliance. Webkit marketshare is far more important to Apple than Safari marketshare, as Webkit-tested sites will run well on a Mac, and that is what matters. Until IE becomes fully standards compliant (anyone holding his breath?), the important marketshare fight is Gecko/Webkit vs IE.
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True as your comments might be, the general public only sees it for the browsers they use, they do not care or understand what drives the browser and the web in general. :)
 
Chrome Drops Safari Into Fourth Place Among Browsers

Not on Macs, it doesn't.

As for Chrome's success on Windows . . . excellent. I support anything that eats away at IE's share.
 
!¡ V ¡! said:
So in closing, flash needs to be replaced with something better. :D
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WebGL, HTML5, CSS3, Even faster Javascript, further improvements to AJAX, and the wide support of the HTML5 h.264 video tag would do it.

The next decade will be interesting though i suspect Flash may go back to its routes as a animation program that outputs to the HTML5 video tag. If Flash is to stay then it will need to continue to evolve and start playing nice with the other technologies that build up the web including working with accessibility software.
 
Market share?? What market share? There is no market. This software is all free. Who cares which browsers are used more?
 
baryon said:
That's because Chrome for Windows is amazing while Safari for Windows is almost as bad as iTunes for Windows. Safari on Mac is still better than anything on Windows...
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i've used all the browsers and my preference is FF, IE, Opera, Chrome and Safari

they all have similar memory footprints. i've used FF and Chrome with Google Wave and that's where Chrome is a bit faster. but google wave sucks donkey balls and i've had Chrome up to 500MB of RAM used in Wave
 
Of course Chrome passed Safari.

Having recently converted to Mac, I know first hand just how horrible Safari is on Windows.

It's a night and day difference on a Mac, however.

Flash sucks on Windows too...it's amazing how much it heats up a laptop when running Youtube.
 
ChromeAce said:
Market share?? What market share? There is no market. This software is all free. Who cares which browsers are used more?
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I care for one, as does every Web designer and/or Developer as the less users of IE the less time we need to spend pulling hair out over that stupid browser.
 
ChromeAce said:
Market share?? What market share? There is no market. This software is all free. Who cares which browsers are used more?
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Because if developers have to make sure their sites run on Webkit and Gecko, then Microsoft can't set Internet standards by itself. Before Firefox, that was where we were.
 
I'm loving Chrome so far, though I am wishing it had a bit better bookmark management (at least on the mac) but other than that I use it quite a bit. I wish there was a PPC version for my wife's old Powerbook though.

I've said this before in other threads, but I actually use Safari, FF, Chrome and kinda bounce between them (and IE at work) like any other competing products, they all have their own unique strengths and weaknesses so I use each for different sets of tasks. Though I must admit Safari and Chrome on my Mac get the most usage, I might be dreaming but FF has gotten to feel kinda slow and bloated for many things.
 
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