But you will use Mac because they don't spread themselves out? Computers, phones, home media (Apple Tv), media services (iTunes), mobile me, and they didn't buy a map company because they wanted to stick with Google.
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Chrome Drops Safari Into Fourth Place Among Browsers
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But you will use Mac because they don't spread themselves out? Computers, phones, home media (Apple Tv), media services (iTunes), mobile me, and they didn't buy a map company because they wanted to stick with Google.
I've also installed Chrome on OS X. I'm very satisfied with it.
With Safari I had this annoying bug: Audio in Flash movies didn't play after I watched or listened to something in iTunes, QuickTime or VLC. I'd have to restart Safari before I could hear any sound being played.
This annoying problem does not exist in Chrome. So people who say it's Adobe's fault, not Apple's; explain this to me. Why does Flash run without problems in Chrome and not in Safari?
Get ClickToFlash. Not only does it block all Flash for you, if you choose to play some flash, it will give you the QuickTime version instead, if it's available. Flash is on the way out, now. Adobe have pretty much shot themselves in the foot.
I just downloaded click to flash and installed it successfully. Why doesn't it actually do anything? Did i do something wrong??
Cuil is quite easily to manipulate in regards to shadow domaining, link farms and other neferious page rank exploits. Run say a thousand search quries against it, and you will find some very... odd, results on the first page.
This is expected as they deal more with the content of the page, where Google deals with the releveance of the page within it's relationship for entire Web
But it does look nice at least.
For those that take the "Google is big, ergo, Google is bad" stance. Quick question. If a company made the greatest invention ever, I mean this thing changed your freaking life forever, but the company was, say, a fortune 500 company, would you ignore the invention just because it's from a "big company"?
Google is in it's position because its the best at what it does. This cant be ignored. And as any business owner will tell you, companies, no matter how big, can never ever stand still. They are always pushing, always straining, to either maintain their position at the top, or get to the top.
Flash on the way out? Silverlight still has a long way to go to conquer the market, and HTML 5... Well... Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later.
Meanwhile, the only people who have something against Flash are Mac users who present a measly 4% of the market.
I admire your positivity, but really...
for the first time i bought my macbook, the first application that i install is mozilla firefox
I just downloaded click to flash and installed it successfully. Why doesn't it actually do anything? Did i do something wrong??
Did you set the Preferences submenu (under Safari/ClickToFlash)?
Silverlight who? I guess Safari and Chrome are wasting their time supporting HTML5 right now, then ???
I'm talking about an internet without Flash, today. I enjoy such a thing on my phone and ClickToFlash delivers it to my WebKit browser. Serenity.
Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later.
Screw the W3C. The Web doesn't have to wait for W3C and their glacial review/approval process.
The Web moves ahead. With or without the W3C's blessing.
Really? Windows users have nothing against Flash and Flash-clogged websites? None of them? Really?
Chrome is pretty sweet... being Open Source as Safari should have been from the start. Enabling more and more people to step in. Chrome however has some annoying (minor privacy) issues, but the Google team is working on it.
Also; Chrome will soon be the next competitor to Mozilla Firefox. We all know this. Most of us keep quiet... while Asa Dotzler go out on a rampage. Ignoring the simple fact that his salary (what was it again $150,000?) is being paid by Google for over how many years already?
Sick and tired of the update notifications? Look here:
~/Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate
p.s. Enter: launchctl list and look for google
Also; Chrome will soon be the next competitor to Mozilla Firefox. We all know this. Most of us keep quiet... while Asa Dotzler go out on a rampage. Ignoring the simple fact that his salary (what was it again $150,000?) is being paid by Google for over how many years already?
Sick and tired of the update notifications? Look here:
~/Library/Google/GoogleSoftwareUpdate/GoogleSoftwareUpdate
p.s. Enter: launchctl list and look for google
Explain me how Google violates your privacy? I have yet to see any evidence that they scan the emails to generate advertising. Gmail rocks.
meh
Meh, browser wars are so 2001. It has gotten to the point where I just don't care. I prefer Safari on OS X but I'm just as happy using Firefox, Camino, etc. I have no compelling reason to install anything other than Safari though.
Most people use browsers to browse and not much else. To most users, the browser is the window that contains web pages. It seems like this is quite a bit different from other genres, e.g. iPhoto vs. some other photo app.
Meh, browser wars are so 2001. It has gotten to the point where I just don't care. I prefer Safari on OS X but I'm just as happy using Firefox, Camino, etc. I have no compelling reason to install anything other than Safari though.
Most people use browsers to browse and not much else. To most users, the browser is the window that contains web pages. It seems like this is quite a bit different from other genres, e.g. iPhoto vs. some other photo app.
That's exactly what has happened up to this point with the different browsers instead of every company simply complying with W3C standards 100%. In fact whether companies abide by "open standards" is a business decision driven by profit potential. Only OSS geeks truly care about open standards, and they have day jobs.
Uh, while I am a staunch G supported.....
Send an email/have a conversation, and check the adds to the right of the page. IE if you have a convo about say computer games, you will get ads that point to gaming resources. etc etc
You seem to forget last year when apple automatically started downloading safari on any system with itunes, quicktime, or any other apple software and attempting to make it the default browser. Stop it with the apple Propaganda guys. Apple is not god and they are far from perfect.
Flash on windows flies on 8 year old machines. You can watch youtube smoothly on a pentium III 450mhz on windows. Apple needs to fix something in their OS or if its a problem on adobes end they need to push adobe in the right direction.
Here's one Flash-hating Windows user. And not because Flash runs poorly per se, but that it bloats websites horribly and seldom for any actual user value. The web is simply much faster without Flash.
So happy that IE8 has a toggle for Flash (and other plugins). Install it, then disable it. When you really want it, a "couple of clicks to Flash" (wish I could put "Flash On/Off" as a single button on the toolbar).
Lately though, I've been using IE8 x64 most of the time - since there's no x64 Flash, it's nice and quiet -- bliss. When I want Flash, I just copy the URL and paste it into an x86 IE window.
ps: Silverlight is also disabled except when wanted, for the same reasons....
Really, its honestly not a problem on windows for most people, obviously there is no 100% of anything anywhere, we can only speak percentages and relativity. unless you just meant to make argument for the pure sake of being argumentative.
Whoa...I have now historically agreed with AidenShaw on two points.
*head explodes again*
I still think Mozilla Firefox is the best. It just works so much better than the other browsers, it's more intelligent, more coherent, and has many more logical features. I guess, I'd say it's more logical and concise.
I suspect Chrome benefits from the same thing a lot of these Android-based phones do: pent-up geek enthusiasm. You see it with all those phones, huge sales right off the bat and then it slows to a trickle. I'm not surprised Chrome overtook Safari but how much further the momentum takes it and whether all those users stick with it remains to be seen.
Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript speeds are abysmal. I mean, truly awful compared to IE and Safari. I wish they would get that sorted out because FF might stand a chance at becoming my favorite browser, but for the time being, it's definitely Safari.
Unfortunately, Firefox's Javascript speeds are abysmal. I mean, truly awful compared to IE and Safari. I wish they would get that sorted out because FF might stand a chance at becoming my favorite browser, but for the time being, it's definitely Safari.
HTML 5... Well... Ian Hickson, editor of the HTML5 specification, expects the specification to reach the W3C Candidate Recommendation stage during 2012, and W3C Recommendation in the year 2022 or later.
Thank god they are not doing the specification all in one go then
HTML5 will come in blocks. The audio and video tags are already being finalized and will be set forth as standards as soon as they are. The rest of HTML5 will follow, a few components at a time, until HTML5 is fully completed and ready for a candidate recommendation in 2012.
So we won't have to wait so long for it. Of course, you'd know this if you were actually following HTML5 and not just spreading FUD about it.
Chrome Terms of Service
I just clicked on the link (from Google.com) to download Chrome for Mac OS X, beta, had a look at the Terms of Service, and I noticed a term I don't like and wanted to point out. You must agree to always receive software updates and allow Google automatically deliver them to you. So whenever an update is available it is NOT optional for the user whether to install it or not.
This is is in Section 11 of Terms of Service
I just clicked on the link (from Google.com) to download Chrome for Mac OS X, beta, had a look at the Terms of Service, and I noticed a term I don't like and wanted to point out. You must agree to always receive software updates and allow Google automatically deliver them to you. So whenever an update is available it is NOT optional for the user whether to install it or not.
This is is in Section 11 of Terms of Service
as a qa engineer for web software, i pay attention to these stats very closely. we're always looking for what new browsers we need to test in and what browsers to "drop".
in my opinion global stats are a bit too general. if you look at north american stats, safari still garners almost double the usage as chrome. from gs.statcounter.com:
take a look at safari and chromes growth rate over 1 year. both grow at the same rate.
the reason why chrome is higher than safari globally is the fact that safari usage is nonexistent on every other continent other than Australia. Even Opera dominates Safari in Europe.
if your website is geared towards mostly English speakers, I'd look closer at breaking down browser stats by country/continent.
in my opinion global stats are a bit too general. if you look at north american stats, safari still garners almost double the usage as chrome. from gs.statcounter.com:
take a look at safari and chromes growth rate over 1 year. both grow at the same rate.
the reason why chrome is higher than safari globally is the fact that safari usage is nonexistent on every other continent other than Australia. Even Opera dominates Safari in Europe.
if your website is geared towards mostly English speakers, I'd look closer at breaking down browser stats by country/continent.