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Chrome Drops Safari Into Fourth Place Among Browsers

LagunaSol said:
Screw the W3C. The Web doesn't have to wait for W3C and their glacial review/approval process.

The Web moves ahead. With or without the W3C's blessing.



Really? Windows users have nothing against Flash and Flash-clogged websites? None of them? Really?
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Really. Why not? It's Apple and Steve Jobs who have some strange beef with Adobe and Flash. PC software (be it from Microsoft or anybody else but Apple) has no problems with it and so do PC users. Really

While Appple fans wait till Web finally moved ahead, PC users simply enjoy their lifes ;)
 
i never use Safari anyway...
I like the flexibility of FireFox and being able to add any feature from Mozilla's candy store of plug-ins and extensions.
And I don't care if a "better" browser comes out at all. I'm in with FireFox- I like what they stand for, so they've got my full support.
 
I used to be an avid fan of Chrome but ever since Safari 4 with the Top Sites bookmarking system, clean looks @ excellent speed, I haven't felt compelled to use Chrome at all.

Speed wise it is virtually no different, it has way less features and nothing beats Activity Monitor.
 
In Windows Vista (SP3) and Windows 7, the current public release of Google Chrome (3.0.195.38) is lightning fast in response and works very well with Flash videos. I've had no troubles with stuttering in Hulu, Crunchyroll and ESPN websites, all three of which use Flash to display videos.

There is some talk that Microsoft may be investigating a possible switch to WebKit as the primary layout engine for Internet Explorer 9.0.

I'm hoping once the final release of Chrome for MacOS X arrives it will be faster than Safari and offer better tab handling than Safari 4.0.x does.
 
Will probably have a look at Chrome, but at this stage Safari is doing the job for me. Now if Safari can get its RSS feed system like FF (drop arrow/folders) then I'll be even happier
 
Hattig said:
Chrome is being advertised this week in the UK, there are billboards up advertising it, and full page adverts in the newspapers.
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I know, I couldn't believe it yesterday when I saw the Chrome advertising all over the Tube and newspapers in London.

Browser Wars 2: This Time It's Personal? :D
 
Scrolling is smoother in Safari

If they make Chrome scroll as smooth as Safari 4 does on Snow Leopard I'd be happy to try it as my default browser. As it is now I think it kind of feels better/quicker to browse using Safari mainly because of the scrolling.

I think this ”feel” of the web browser is pretty important considering how much tim is spent using one.

I've tried Goggle Chrome in Windows 7 and there the scrolling is much smoother than the Mac version of Chrome in Snow Leopard.
 
SactoGuy18 said:
In Windows Vista (SP3) and Windows 7, the current public release of Google Chrome (3.0.195.38) is lightning fast in response and works very well with Flash videos.
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Totally agree on that.
I'm using the current release of Chrome in Windows 7 ”Release Candidate” and it's super quick at loading web pages, even crowded ones and ones containing several Flash animation.

On Mac OS X there's this irritating delay (usually a little beach ball) the first time a page with Flash is loaded and that 32-bit Flash plug-in process starts up.

What I find strange/sad is that when I tried ClickToFlash for Safari (to get rid of the Flash loading) I still got this delay when loading some flash pages.

ClickToFlash here: http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/
 
lilo777 said:
Really. Why not? It's Apple and Steve Jobs who have some strange beef with Adobe and Flash. PC software (be it from Microsoft or anybody else but Apple) has no problems with it and so do PC users. Really
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Apple has tried to go against Adobe by not allowing Flash on the iPhone, but apparently the guys at Adobe don't seem to get what the problem is.
While Appple fans wait till Web finally moved ahead, PC users simply enjoy their lifes ;)
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Sure, by being able to play flash well but doing everything else terribly. Great experience. :D
 
AidenShaw said:
Here's one Flash-hating Windows user. And not because Flash runs poorly per se, but that it bloats websites horribly and seldom for any actual user value. The web is simply much faster without Flash.
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*sigh* That's not hating Flash, that's hating how it's being implemented on -some- websites. That's different. I don't like these bloaty Flash sites either. Sites that are fully created in Flash, only for the sake of driving you nuts with flashy animations and other nonsense.

I'm talking about watching video's on-line. There's no reason why Windows users hate Flash, because it runs perfectly, even on old hardware. Only on a Mac it runs like ****. Probably because Adobe doesn't care about 4% of its users. (Maybe that's why Adobe's CS suite is more advanced on PC's as well? Full 64-bit support, for example?)
 
Erwin-Br said:
*sigh* That's not hating Flash, that's hating how it's being implemented on -some- websites. That's different. I don't like these bloaty Flash sites either. Sites that are fully created in Flash, only for the sake of driving you nuts with flashy animations and other nonsense.
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It's hard to separate the two ("Flash" and the horrible implementations) ;).


Erwin-Br said:
I'm talking about watching video's on-line. There's no reason why Windows users hate Flash...
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Flash videos often are DRM-like, websites embed them in wrappers that try to prevent downloads. I'd prefer higher quality downloadable open format videos over low-quality, DRM'd proprietary formats.

I also hate (the implementations) where you're locked into sitting through ads just to watch a short clip. CNN is one of the worst offenders here - I just don't click on CNN links with the video icon except in rare cases (like watching the plane land in the Hudson).


Erwin-Br said:
Probably because Adobe doesn't care about 4% of its users. (Maybe that's why Adobe's CS suite is more advanced on PC's as well? Full 64-bit support, for example?)
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Adobe planned on OSX x64 support for CS4, but Apple changed its plans and dropped Carbon64. This meant that Adobe has to port CS to Cocoa - which was not possible in the CS4 release schedule. Adobe CS5 on Mac to be Intel-only, Cocoa, 64-bit native.
 
I use chrome. And I use it because it doesn't crash. Safari sucks when it comes to flash sites or flash video. On top of that, my MBP has a go just *running* safari. It seems like a huge hog. To browse the internet!! -.-
 
My browser of preference is Safari. It just works better on my machine. Not to say it doesn't crash sometimes because it does, but not nearly as much as Firefox which has horrible stability from my point of view.

Chrome has a nice idea running things in separate processes, but Google already knows enough about me, they don't need even more access to my data. So doubt I will ever use it.
 
ProwlingTiger said:
Well sure, you get all the fanatical Google nerds downloading it, Chrome was bound to over take it. I honestly don't think Apple cares about the browser competition. And it really is irrelevant, anyways.
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The fanatical google nerds. I've never heard of them.
 
I've always used Maxthon. Version 3.0 of their browser is in Alpha right now but it comes out next year and will feature the use of both Trident (IE) and Webkit (Chrome, Safari) engines all in the same browser. It will use Webkit for most pages and automatically switch over to Trident when needed.
 
I've been using Chrome for a while and I have to admit, it's much better than Safari. Faster, and more stable. Seems like apple is getting lazy.
 
I really love Google Chrome on my PC, it's slick, clean, and the multi-tabs are great. Not that FF can't do the same, but Chrome just crashes less, runs quickly, and I love being able to easily save windows, bookmark things, and not have to worry about themes or extra FF crap. I switched over as soon as it came out (well, as soon as the fixed the security patch issues)- FF was crashing at least two or three times a week on me. I've had Chrome crash maybe, 2-3 times total. Sometimes it's laggy booting up out of hibernate, especially if I've got a ton of tabs open, but I think that's more my 4-year old machine than the browser.

I haven't tried it out on Mac yet- my white plastic iMac at school doesn't have the intel chipset and can't run it, and my new Macbook hasn't come in yet. But I'm really eager to try it as soon as I get a chance.

I don't see why Safari people wouldn't like it- isn't Chrome just a modded version of older Safari?
 
lilo777 said:
Really. Why not? It's Apple and Steve Jobs who have some strange beef with Adobe and Flash. PC software (be it from Microsoft or anybody else but Apple) has no problems with it and so do PC users. Really

While Appple fans wait till Web finally moved ahead, PC users simply enjoy their lifes ;)
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Why we love Flash [NOT]:

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http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/abstraction.png
 
lilo777 said:
While Appple fans wait till Web finally moved ahead, PC users simply enjoy their lifes ;)
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I'm trying to make sense of your post, but as both a Windows and Mac user, I can say that, while Flash does indeed run better on Windows (and Adobe needs to fix their crappy Mac software), it is not magically delicious. Not even close.

And by PC users "enjoying their lifes" I can only assume you mean "running their daily virus scan in the background while surfing YouTube Ballmer dance videos." Oh, and don't forget to get that Adobe Reader update as soon as Adobe releases it to patch the latest security hole (just one in a long history for Reader). I guess the baddies are busy exploiting that one even as we speak.

Enjoy.
 
Adobe has pretty much shot itself in the foot over Flash. It's about time we put Flash out of its misery.

I have a Flash-free phone (thanks Apple) and ClickToFlash not only de-Flashes the Mac for me (you have control over this if you need Flash for some reason), but it grabs the QuickTime version, if there is one.

A peaceful web experience. You ought to try it some time.
 
Only Firefox runs on many of the distance learning sites

Out of the following browsers: Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Opera and OmniWeb only Firefox runs on many of the distance learning software (such as WebTycho at the University of Maryland or Blackboard). This is not as narrow a market as you believe and until the others fix those problems Firefox I think we be dominant on Mac machines.
 
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