Chrome for M1 Macs Runs Up to 80% Faster Than Rosetta 2 Version

[gnasher729]

So what I take from this is that Activity monitor whilst saying % CPU and showing it's usage, it's not actually reporting the usage correctly because only 1 core is being used? If that is the case then shouldn't activity monitor be showing how many cores are being used and what core is being used because to the untrained eye, when a computers activity monitor shows a heading of % CPU, it's implying that ALL cores of the CPU are being used.

But say you compare an old quad core Intel Mac with a Mac Pro with 28 cores. When the Mac Pro does 7 times more work, you want it to show a 7 times higher number. So the quad core Mac would show 0 to 400%, and the 28 core Mac Pro would show 0% to 2800%. So you can see it does more work. If you use one single core on each machine, they both show 100% and not the quad core showing 25% and the 28 core MacPro slightly under 4%.

Things are just complicated (and there is another post about hyperthreading which makes it worse). But whatever is best, when Activity Monitor shows 100%, it's ONE core being fully used.

 

[MauiPa]

Is that screenshot for real??? Chrome is taking up nearly 60% of the M1's CPU usage!!!

Out of 800%?

 

[Frixos]

In other words, avoid Rosetta 2 to avoid nearly 50% performance penalty. All apps should ideally be native.

Of course native is ideal. But I don’t think it’s fair to think of it as a penalty since M1 performs better than its predecessor even with Rosetta

 

[MacBH928]

This article is deceiving, it sounds like "Chrome on M1 runs 80% faster than on Intel".
This shouldn't be news any way, obviously native code will be faster than translated/emulated.

 

[Cycling Asia]

So this primarily shows how much speed improvement native code will get you. Doesn’t say anything about M1 vs intel. It’s more native vs Rosetta.

Logic like this is dangerous in a place full of fanboys. Take care.

 

[hot-gril]

Hyperthreading only serves to keep the pipeline full when commands on threads are waiting for completion. With 8 cores, there should be little benefit on ARM because of the shorter command processes, so you simply might not see it

I thought it was also for helping with context switching by duplicating the registers, could be wrong. Even if so, probably the shorter pipeline means it's not worth the complexity.

 

[pasamio]

This article is deceiving, it sounds like "Chrome on M1 runs 80% faster than on Intel".
This shouldn't be news any way, obviously native code will be faster than translated/emulated.

You're right, it's only 70% faster than the Ryzen machine quoted and the emulated Rosetta 2 version is almost as fast as the Ryzen chip's native performance.

Seems like pretty cool news to me that you're level pegging with a chip that if I recall correctly was launched earlier this year when running in emulation mode and then are 70% faster than it when running native. Not quite sure how high the bar is for you on what is and isn't news. It feels like a bunch of people missed that the last bar on that chart was a Ryzen CPU.

 

[coredev]

Biggest gripe is not being able to update without updating the OS, and since my machines are on Mojave still, quite a few things don't work in Safari now.

There have been standalone Safari updates for some time.

 

[coredev]

Because appke dud nit have the m1 chipmat the time, and IBM was moving to slow for apple, larly Intel has been having problems with keeping to their roadmap and apAppke has had such sucess with its in house phobe/ tablet chips that they decide to do a desktop chip fir them selves ( vell kaptop for rhe moment) and they seam to have managed it quite well

Never drink and write

 

[3587]

Chrome still feels snappier in my opinion... it also works so much better when using Wix.com. Safari still struggles with the basics.

 

[chris1958]

What are the advantages of Chrome over Safari? I heard that it drained batteries fast. That is why I deleted it from my machine.

The advantage of Chrome over Safari is that is much faster in implementing new specification. Many new CSS-features, which help to avoid complicate Javascripts-hacks are available in Chrome and Firefox - but not in Safari.

From the perspective of a web developer Safari is the new IE. You always need to deliver workarounds, which makes pages slow, just to make your site work for Safari.

 

[chatin]

Safari drains the battery much faster playing Amazon video. Chrome for M1 is more efficient.

 

[KPOM]

So this primarily shows how much speed improvement native code will get you. Doesn’t say anything about M1 vs intel. It’s more native vs Rosetta.

They also compare it to Chrome running on a PC running an AMD Ryzen chip.

 

[KPOM]

Will it still be a pig on ram and battery though? I have to use chrome for my office work, otherwise it’d never see the light of day on my Mac.

Does Microsoft Edge work? It is still Rosetta, but it is a Chromium-based browser?

 

[killr_b]

Safari won't run real ad blockers anymore so...in the bin.

 

[FNH15]

Safari won't run real ad blockers anymore so...in the bin.

Could someone explain this to me? I keep seeing people saying this, but Adblock works fine in Safari 14.0.1 (as it has since they introduced extensions back in Safari 4)...

 

[killr_b]

Could someone explain this to me? I keep seeing people saying this, but Adblock works fine in Safari 14.0.1 (as it has since they introduced extensions back in Safari 4)...

First of all, I was told that Adblock is spyware.

Now as far as I know, Apple prevents real ad blocking now and forces the use of their signed "content blocking package," or at least that was my understanding. The best example of this is Youtube ads. I bet you see them. I don't.

Here is a post you can read: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

Personally, I'm using Chrome and uBlock Origin. I have like 30 tabs open usually and have no idea what everyone is talking about with Chrome hogging resources or causing fans to spin up...

 

[hot-gril]

First of all, I was told that Adblock is spyware.

Now as far as I know, Apple prevents real ad blocking now and forces the use of their signed "content blocking package," or at least that was my understanding. The best example of this is Youtube ads. I bet you see them. I don't.

Here is a post you can read: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

Personally, I'm using Chrome and uBlock Origin. I have like 30 tabs open usually and have no idea what everyone is talking about with Chrome hogging resources or causing fans to spin up...

^
The issue with AdBlock and AB Plus is they've entered deals with advertisers. https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158
uBO is what you want.

 

[coolfactor]

Why did we ever adopt Intel in the first place?

It's a good question, but Motorola/PowerPC was stalled at the time with no clear path forward other than to adopt an established architecture.

 

[coolfactor]

Or if I want to open an Apple News link without it opening in the News app. That's irritating.

But yeah, Safari has always been the most efficient and my default. Biggest gripe is not being able to update without updating the OS, and since my machines are on Mojave still, quite a few things don't work in Safari now.

"Quite a few things"? Please give us a list. 😇

 

[FNH15]

First of all, I was told that Adblock is spyware.

Now as far as I know, Apple prevents real ad blocking now and forces the use of their signed "content blocking package," or at least that was my understanding. The best example of this is Youtube ads. I bet you see them. I don't.

Here is a post you can read: https://github.com/el1t/uBlock-Safari/issues/158

Personally, I'm using Chrome and uBlock Origin. I have like 30 tabs open usually and have no idea what everyone is talking about with Chrome hogging resources or causing fans to spin up...

I’ll take a look at Ublock Origin then. I have no interest running Google spyware on my machine. That and the fact that Chrome does not respect Apple’s design guidelines is why Chrome is not an option. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[MacBH928]

There have been standalone Safari updates for some time.

where?

 

[MacBH928]

You're right, it's only 70% faster than the Ryzen machine quoted and the emulated Rosetta 2 version is almost as fast as the Ryzen chip's native performance.

Seems like pretty cool news to me that you're level pegging with a chip that if I recall correctly was launched earlier this year when running in emulation mode and then are 70% faster than it when running native. Not quite sure how high the bar is for you on what is and isn't news. It feels like a bunch of people missed that the last bar on that chart was a Ryzen CPU.

Hey don't blame me, this site founder himself this is a native vs emulation comparison (link)

 

[hot-gril]

"Quite a few things"? Please give us a list. 😇

I was using an old Safari (whatever came with Mojave) and just found out you can update it separately.
But anyway, twitter.com was totally unusable, chase.com was glitchy, geico.com wouldn't keep me logged in, github.com wouldn't let me edit comments, and I forget the rest.

 

[Tech198]

uh huh...... ..... now we'll see a "Rosetta 2 suck" fleet..

Is only 20% difference... It makes more of a hit to slower CPU's, but how much can "Rosetta-ing" your software really strain on an 8-core Mac ?