Chrome for Mac Gains 'Help Me Write' Generative AI Feature

[john123]

Progress implies improvement. These tools have yet to meaningfully improve anything.

Tell that to all the code I’ve had ChatGPT spit out, or the impressive R plots I’ve had it produce that would have take me 10x as long to do myself.

I’ve noticed a trend in here — that people who have been unable to leverage AI assume there’s no benefit to anyone else.

 

[AshGuy]

I’m here to find out which flag to disable this

Ditto, looks like its opt-in. Still, I don't imagine it will be forever.

 

[svish]

Definitely can be useful. Hoping to see it roll out quickly to users across the world.

 

[boss.king]

Tell that to all the code I’ve had ChatGPT spit out, or the impressive R plots I’ve had it produce that would have take me 10x as long to do myself.

I’ve noticed a trend in here — that people who have been unable to leverage AI assume there’s no benefit to anyone else.

I’d be able to leverage it if it were actually any good at writing, but instead I just have to explain to people why it’s a garbage technology that produces garbage while still doing the work myself.

But I take your point, maybe for coding it is a useful tool. I will say I’ve spoken to a bunch of devs who say they often have to spend longer debugging stuff that ChatGPT has spat out than it would take to write it themselves, so it sounds like it’s still pretty unreliable at the very least.

 

[Paradoxally]

Wow. Good thing that a company like Apple would never promote their privacy stance and also accept $18bn (allegedly) to make Google the default search on iOS.

... oh

Apple is also no example for anyone.

instead I just have to explain to people why it’s a garbage technology that produces garbage while still doing the work myself

It depends on your input. AI is not a mind reader. You give it garbage input, it will give you garbage output.

Also use GPT4. Anything below that is just too unreliable.

 

[boss.king]

It depends on your input. AI is not a mind reader. You give it garbage input, it will give you garbage output.

Also use GPT4. Anything below that is just too unreliable.

lol, you assume that just because I recognise how flawed these tools are that I just don’t know how to use them? Show me any good writing done by an AI tool. Something you got it to generate, something someone else got it to generate, I don’t care. These tools do things fast, they do not do them well.

 

[Paradoxally]

lol, you assume that just because I recognise how flawed these tools are that I just don’t know how to use them? Show me any good writing done by an AI tool. Something you got it to generate, something someone else got it to generate, I don’t care. These tools do things fast, they do not do them well.

I am not a writer, that is on you to prove as "good writing" is subjective. I am a developer. What I said is true for any input.

GPT4 works wonderfully for most of my requests paired with Copilot. It can debug code issues, suggest improvements, and refactor files. The input prompt is what matters, you can't just say "refactor this file" or "fix this bug".

 

[Mousse]

But I take your point, maybe for coding it is a useful tool. I will say I’ve spoken to a bunch of devs who say they often have to spend longer debugging stuff that ChatGPT has spat out than it would take to write it themselves, so it sounds like it’s still pretty unreliable at the very least.

The programers I know uses AI for very basic stuff. They say it works well. Problems crops up when they ask for anything complex. AI starts hallucinating on top of hallucinations. I see the same with literary AI works.

I only find AI useful for translating what I want to say into professional speak gobbledygook. If I want to call a coworker an moronic, incompetent waste if oxygen, ChatGPT can spit out business speak that won't have HR breathing down my back.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

Help me plagiarize? Teachers are having a hard enough time trying to determine if kids are writing their own stuff or not. Things like this just make it worse

My son's teachers encourage the kids to use Chat GPT for their assignments.

Firstly, you still have to understand the work to know if Chat GPT has thrown you a curve ball or not.

Secondly, learning how to use AI is a highly important skill right now. If you're not using AI to assist and accelerate your work, you are rapidly falling behind, and setting yourself up to be unemployable.

 

[john123]

I’d be able to leverage it if it were actually any good at writing, but instead I just have to explain to people why it’s a garbage technology that produces garbage while still doing the work myself.

But I take your point, maybe for coding it is a useful tool. I will say I’ve spoken to a bunch of devs who say they often have to spend longer debugging stuff that ChatGPT has spat out than it would take to write it themselves, so it sounds like it’s still pretty unreliable at the very least.

There is a bit of GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) that’s common. It took me a bit of time to make it sing with advanced R plots, and even then when trying to do something I got stuck in a loop where the series of instructions to make it “correct” always managed to screw up a previous instruction. After a few hours I gave up and chalked it up to the current limitations. I think it’s important to remember though that it’s an evolving technology. I’d expect it to get smarter eventually and not have the outcome I just described.

Debugging is a similar sort of thing. If you’re trying to do anything advanced, you’re not going to make that happen today. It’s no replacement for a skilled engineer — or even a not-so-skilled engineer who at least understands the context of the problem and can recognize when an output doesn’t look right. I actually prefer this group over the former in my engineering teams if I have to choose!

 

[picpicmac]

I’ve noticed a trend in here — that people who have been unable to leverage AI assume there’s no benefit to anyone else.

I have no doubt that LLMs can make coding easier for many production software engineers.

Yet that does not mean the positives will outweigh the negatives for society.