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>With ‌macOS Big Sur‌, Safari received significant updates that saw it further outpace Chrome. Apple says that Safari on ‌macOS Big Sur‌ is "50% faster on average at loading frequently visited websites than Chrome," and that Safari provides up to one and a half hours longer of streaming video, and up to one hour longer normal web browsing on a single charge, compared to Chrome and Firefox.<

Updates? Safari was fine before Big Sur, now some sites just hang until it connects, get a spinning beach ball when entering a password, get a spinning beach ball after clicking on Bookmarks, etc.
If Chrome works better than safari maybe my 16Gb RAM will make it not matter so much.
Safari is a disaster under Big Sur, get rid of the 'updates', Apple, and give us our functioning browser back
 
Safari has been the smoothest experience for my browsing needs. Much more responsive than other browsers I've tried. It may not have every feature, but there's no better choice for me on my Mac. I use Chrome on my Windows PC and feel like it's more refined on Windows. I never felt the level of refinement using Chrome on my Mac. This extreme variance between the two apps isn't shocking after using both of them.
Same until they kneecapped adblockers, at which point I sadly had to ditch it for Firefox. Browsing the web with ads is a nightmare and also a risk. I only use it for important logins now cause it uses the Keychain.
 
I've been on sites whose _buttons_ don't work in Safari. How?? I'm mostly a n00b at web development, but using popular tools like React, my sites always work fine on Safari without me even trying.
I have seen some younger web developers don’t even test on Safari. When some people compared Chrome to IE back in the day, I understand why. Chrome adds a feature, and it’s the only browser with that feature. Some web developers like that feature and require it for their site to work. This was the same problem with IE - some sites would only work on IE because they used those special IE-only features. We have web standards for a reason; if people ignore them and only write for Chrome, it‘s the same disaster all over again.
 
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M1 Macs are already paging badly to disk because they don't have enough memory and people are reporting on Twitter that their SSDs already hit 200TB of data written to disk.
I haven’t heard about this! It sounds kind of alarming. Any article links?
 
Chrome is essentially trying to BE your OS, macOS is just a boot-loader for it.

I haven't run actual chrome for years - I'm used to the safari UI, if I have to run something chrome based I use either brave or the new Edge (as its now installed by default in Windows - and whatever Brave does to try protect you, if its running on Windows the telemetry is there for Microsoft whether you run Edge or not :D).
 
Regardless of the validity of this particular test, Chrome is a flaming garbage fire of spyware. Chrome assigns your computer a unique fingerprint which it uses to track you across the web. They claim to not associate it with your Google account, but why trust them? It has also been demonstrated that Chrome cranks on the CPU for some users even when not running in the foreground with its "updater". Delete Chrome, use Firefox with uBlock Origin, and your browsing experience will improve dramatically.
 
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Regardless of the validity of this particular test, Chrome is a flaming garbage fire of spyware. Chrome assigns your computer a unique fingerprint which it uses to track you across the web. They claim to not associate it with your Google account, but why trust them? It has also been demonstrated that Chrome cranks on the CPU for some users even when not running in the foreground with its "updater". Delete Chrome, use Firefox with uBlock Origin, and your browsing experience will improve dramatically.
It is surprising how many people think the ad blockers on Chrome are protecting them. Google’s business model is selling your personal information to advertisers. You use Chrome, you are giving Google permission to sell your personal info.
 
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It is surprising how many people think the ad blockers on Chrome are protecting them. Google’s business model is selling your personal information to advertisers. You use Chrome, you are giving Google permission to sell your personal info.
Exactly. Google's revenue model is directly at-odds with providing the best possible internet experience to users. Google sells ads and they go to great lengths to make sure people consume those ads. What other reason do people really need to switch to another browser? Any sort of dominance in performance that Chrome had is distant history by now.
 
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Apple doesn’t allow other browser engines in iOS, so Chrome for iOS is actually a skinned safari.
I know although it's somewhat different than that, and I also know that the modified Safari/modified KHTML rendering engine was only supposed to run on Intel but that's been a while. Obviously, it's been running on ARM-based processors for a while.
 
In Chrome's defence, it never poops the bed; It's reliable. Safari on the other hand will frequently hang and/or not be able to load certain pages because it's fussy.
 
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That post is total nonsense. Yes, Safari itself always uses about 100MB of RAM, but it creates a separate process for each tab, which for me uses close to 1GB for the current MacRumors tab for example. Chrome spawns a whole bunch of subprocesses which taken together have a roughly similar memory footprint (actually slightly lower, at least on my setup).
Exactly. For anyone that doubts this, open Activity Monitor and check the Memory tab. A Netflix tab alone is >500MB on my 16" MBP.
 
I have seen some younger web developers don’t even test on Safari. When some people compared Chrome to IE back in the day, I understand why. Chrome adds a feature, and it’s the only browser with that feature. Some web developers like that feature and require it for their site to work. This was the same problem with IE - some sites would only work on IE because they used those special IE-only features. We have web standards for a reason; if people ignore them and only write for Chrome, it‘s the same disaster all over again.
The thing is, Chrome does mostly follow standards, problem is Google has a lot of influence over the standards now. So they add something to Chrome and make it "standard" before any other browser has a chance to implement it. It's not as bad as the situation with IE was, but it's the same kind of problem.

Given that, I still don't know what makes buttons or simple navigation not work. I get it if a site requires some version of WebRTC or some other advanced feature that only Chrome supports.
 
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What is a good secondary web browser to use when Safari doesn't work? I don't want to put Chrome on my shiny new M1 Mac.
 
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