Cinema Display Price Drops

[RichP]

Im waiting to see what the revision brings, and if the panel actually changed. I had the pink cast issue on the 23s I owned, and, even worse, it takes time to develop, which makes a quick return and replace impossible, as apple then considers them "repairable" and not eligible for a return.

For all we know, they could have had the new specs for some time, and now they are advertising it.

Anyone with a "new" 23?

 

[bitfactory]

I'm apple worst nightmare.

[sic]

I'll give you one of those words.

 

[faketom]

big 3-0

Just ordered a 30" with my Mac Pro. Stuck with the stock graphics card however. It was a huge decision of whether to go for the single 30" or the two 23" displays - which is actually cheaper. Did I make the right choice?
Anybody who has a 30" have anything good or bad to say about them?

 

[stoid]

Anyone with a "new" 23?

I ordered the 'new' 23 inch display within 30 minutes of the store being back online, and I just unpacked it. Having no frame of reference to compare to an 'old' 23 inch, I can say that it is ridiculously bright and clear, has no pink cast whatsoever, and from a first careful look over it, 0 dead pixels!

Hopefully no pink cast will develop (I've had it plugged in for about 10 minutes now.

I'm off to get one of those dead pixel checker programs...

 

[Links]

new 23" ACD HD

Would someone who bought what they assume to be the newer
version of this display with improve brightness and contrast
please post part of your serial number.

Mine: 2A6211XXXXX (Xs represents the rest of my number)
date of manufacture: May 2006

Determined from the decoder at:
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

I'm trying to detemine if the one I just bought is in this new batch.
And if it isn't I want to return it quickly.
I have 15 days to return it and exchange if I don't want this display to the store
where I bought it (not from an Apple store).

 

[stoid]

Would someone who bought what they assume to be the newer
version of this display with improve brightness and contrast
please post part of your serial number.

Mine: 2A6211XXXXX (Xs represents the rest of my number)
date of manufacture: May 2006

Determined from the decoder at:
http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

I'm trying to detemine if the one I just bought is in this new batch.
And if it isn't I want to return it quickly.
I have 15 days to return it and exchange if I don't want this display to the store
where I bought it (not from an Apple store).

Mine is 2A6241XXXXX
manufacture date: June 2006

 

[Links]

Mine is 2A6241XXXXX
manufacture date: June 2006

Thanks stoid, Just trying to determine when the specs actually changed,
RATHER than when Apple decided to announced the changes.
Must have been before August 7 2006 when they were "updated".

It looks terrific, no problems so far.
Just want to be sure I have the "latest and greatest" right?

 

[davepoint]

Curious that they haven't changed the revision??

 

[Russell L]

Stoid and Links: Is there a spec sheet enclosed with your new displays? Do they reflect the updated specs? I'm thinking of getting a 23" myself (directly from a local Apple Store), but I'd want to check the serial # (if possible) before I commit.

Thanks,
Russell

 

[Links]

Stoid and Links: Is there a spec sheet enclosed with your new displays? Do they reflect the updated specs? I'm thinking of getting a 23" myself (directly from a local Apple Store), but I'd want to check the serial # (if possible) before I commit.

Thanks,
Russell

Yes and no.
The spec sheet avoids any mention of brightness or contrast ratio.
Guess Apple doesn't want to be bothered printing a new manual every time the panel manufacturer does an update.
Does come with a nice cloth for cleaning the screen though.

I would make sure you serial number is in the 2A62XXXXXXX range.
2A7XXXXXXXX would be later if they are at that number yet.

 

[zooey91]

Thanks stoid, Just trying to determine when the specs actually changed,
RATHER than when Apple decided to announced the changes.
Must have been before August 7 2006 when they were "updated".

It looks terrific, no problems so far.
Just want to be sure I have the "latest and greatest" right?

I ordered mine on Monday and got it yesterday (ground shipping!). I just got off the phone with tech support (customer service had no clue about the change in specs). He actually had no clue either. He'd never heard of any color or pink cast problems, surprise surprise, and said that that kind of thing is just a matter of opinion. I said that bumping brightness to 400 cd/m2 (up from 270 cd/m2) and contrast ration to 700:1 (up from 400:1) isn't a matter of opinion, so they should have some way of confirming that I received what I paid for.

In any event, he did tell me that mine was manufactured in June (sn 2A6221XXXXX). I would hope and assume that this means it's the newer LCD. It looked great from my powerbook, and I'm looking forward to checking it out with my new Mac Pro when it arrives tomorrow.

Jim

 

[Links]

I ordered mine on Monday and got it yesterday (ground shipping!). [...]
Jim

Reminds of an issue many years ago when Apple released the G3 (B&W).
The first batch had a crippled ATA bus due to the wrong chip.
If you bought the same machine, same model number, same specs
a month later you had a different chip and much improved Hard Drive performance.
How could you tell them apart?
You had to search out the chip inside the G3 and find the number on the chip to compare with the newer one.

 

[MUCKYFINGERS]

You're free to dream, but they don't plan to meet or exceed the Dell in number of units sold, so I wouldn't expect them to meet or exceed them on price either.

B

Even then I doubt Apple would really lower their prices. They're famous for overcharging customers.

 

[steve_hill4]

To be honest, the only things putting me off a future purchase of an ACD are connectors, possible incompatibility and cost. If they were a little more affordable for me, (as they are sure to be by the time I think of a purchase), I would get one of the 23" models. However, I would be planning on using it as a display for my PC which also doubled as a second display for my iMac and MBP. Therefore I would need ideally either one VGA and one DVI, two DVI and a VGA or a pair of DVIs. It just wouldn't be practical switching back and forth all the time for me.

 

[BeefUK]

wnurse I see what your sayin but, i'm lookin to buy and ACD and Dells are much cheaper plus they support HDCP.

The real problem with ACD is that they don't have HDCP in the DVIs. Bying such a large monitor (I'm targeting 23") is 5-year investment. And bying one now, without HDCP is a wasted money because in 2 years HD movies would be mainstream and you could not watch them on that nice big monitor you bought..

I agree with aleck, I want to be able to connect the monitor to the PS3 when they are released, and not have to buy a new one to watch films.

However I have done alot a reserach into ACD and Dell monitors and there seems to be problems with banding in dells monitors. This maybe another valid reason to put people off Dell.

But the more I read the more it seems people are starting to nit pick and look for problems with there Dells. I still agree that ACD's are all over priced, maybe except for the 30".

 

[MacFan26]

w00t. I'll be buying a 23" real soon at the edu price. I'm excited! I was hoping they'd add built in iSight or the ability to use Front Row with it, but oh well, It'll be sweet to use with my powerbook. I doubt they'd update them soon, seems like they would have just released new ones with the Mac Pro if they were going to do that.

 

[wnurse]

Guys, I must be missing something.
Everybody is saying here that Dell 30" monitors are cheaper than Apple's 30"
Check the link bellow and you'll see that is actually more:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=222-0863

I understand that maybe there are rebates and so on, but seriously I rather pay more for an Apple display than a Dell. First the design of Apple is better and second I can get Applecare included if I purchase it with a ProMac or PowerMac.

I am not going to discuss the specs of each display. I rather see each side by side to analyze which is better.

huuh.. no one is saying Dell 30 inch is cheaper now (used to be.. so maybe you read an old post before the current price drop). Heck, don't you see I have started a foundation to get me a Apple 30'?. I think some people prefer Dell because their monitors have more options (connections wise). I know I'm glad i got my 20 inch Dell over a 20 inch apple. But I really wanted an apple monitor (even with limited connectivity).. now all you have to do is send me a buck, persuade 1999 other people to do the same (I promise to burn every contributer name onto the back of the monitor). hahaha..

Anyway, I think everyone now knows apple 30 inch is cheaper.

 

[wnurse]

Please tell me where I said that I thought that Apple monitors were better than Dell monitors in anything other than asthetics? I have not made any claim anywhere!

All I said was that tech specs in some places were listed different so something about the panel seems to be different. Yes I bought an Apple monitor, yes I'm an Apple fanboy because I like the look of their electronics, but no I never stated that Apple's monitors were functionally better. On the contrary my statements are to the effect that Dell montiors show functionally better specs, so logically aren't they (not Apple) using the better panel.

Also, what say you to blonde redhead's post about Apple and Dell using different suppliers? Is that correct, or more disinformation.

Get off your soap box, have a cup of tea (or whatever will calm your attitude) and let's have a civil discussion.

Sorry took so late to get back to you..
1. I'm not even sure you were the one that said Dell monitors suck (notice i said "i get annonyed when people.. not I get annonyed when stoid". Anyway, as to different suppliers?.. I was not the one that made that observation/comment. I suppose whoever made that comment can verify for you if that is correct.

 

[ezekielrage_99]

I thought the Apple Displays might sport an iSight Camera....

Still uping the specs and dropping the price is enough for me

 

[benbow]

A big hole in Apple's LCD product range

The 23" display is now $999
The 30" display is now $1999

Apple could fill that $1000 hole with a nice 26" cinema display. It would be perfect in our household.

Are there "25-27" LCDs out there that Apple could sell for say $1499? Has Dell or HP filled this hole yet?

 

[davepoint]

I agree, some middle ground would have been nice

 

[Viking Quest]

The 23" display is now $999
The 30" display is now $1999

Apple could fill that $1000 hole with a nice 26" cinema display. It would be perfect in our household.

Are there "25-27" LCDs out there that Apple could sell for say $1499? Has Dell or HP filled this hole yet?

I'm about to pull the trigger on the Dell 2407WFP. 24" monitor with Component, VGA, S-Video, and DVI inputs. It's a sweet monitor and blows the Apple 23" out of the water. And it's only $703!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[davepoint]

would anyone care to explain why the uk price for a 30" cinema display is £1549 whereas in the US it is $1999 (around £1054.71) even with VAT included this still only comes to £1,239.28 - so why the huge margin...I guess it's not called rip-off Britain for nothing eh...

 

[skunk]

would anyone care to explain why the uk price for a 30" cinema display is £1549 whereas in the US it is $1999 (around £1054.71) even with VAT included this still only comes to £1,239.28 - so why the huge margin...I guess it's not called rip-off Britain for nothing eh...

Excluding VAT, my edu disc price is £1,213.00. I'm sorely tempted to order.

 

[klaus]

Okay,

The left display in the pic below is one I bought 2 years ago, it was replaced 2 times (this is the 3rd display). The display on the right is brandnew, I bought it on wednesday from the online apple store.

The colors in the picture are exagerated because of the photo itself. The background of the screens is black and the backlight leakage is white irl.

The effect is also not as obvious as in the picture but however, it is there, very visible.

If you look at the highres - http://users.skynet.be/bk318948/macosx.nl/schermen.jpg - then you can clearly see there is ghosting on the right screen.

I've requested for a replacement for the new one. The old one (left) was bought at a dealer. It's still in warranty (applecare) but i'm in some kind of dispute with that dealer, so i'm hoping to take care of it directly through Apple.

On a sidenote, I payed almost 2400 euro (vat incl.) for the left one 2 years agon, the right one, which I bought this week, cost me 1150 euro. Should be enough to be eligible for 2 perfect displays no?