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Cinema Display Price Drops

The official reason for the price drop was to meet dell prices or get close to them. To what extent could Apple have dropped their display prices to come back a little later with a new model with new features (built-in iSight, better specs or any new crazy thing like an integrated coffee machine) that would justify more expencive models.

I know it sounds crazy but it came to my mind and seemed quite possible after all.

your opinion?
 
Someone over at the Display forum at Apple's discussion boards mentioned he had a chat with someone from Apple Support and that he told him the specs were already in circulation from April but that they were only now updated on the webpages.

There is also no way of telling if you have a display with the newer specs or not, since there isn't another product code for this.
 
Sure, I know Chipmunk and have used it in the past too.

But since you cannot know when exactly the new panels were used, this data is useless.

The product code is the same, and every lcd has a serial, but it's not like Apple tells us which serial nr was the last one of the old batch is it.
 
klaus,
so, based on your experience, we can still say the "new" 23s are junk? That really is upsetting.

I gave up on 23s a while ago, although I would really like the increased resolution. I agree with what you said, for the price we pay, we should get quality and consistency, (especially with a company that really pushes dual screen configurations) There is NOTHING more irritating than when the monitors dont "match"
 
If they came out with new displays by the new year that would be wonderful. Looking to get a MBP with the new OSX when it comes out. If new displays come out, I'll be tempted to get one.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
The 20" is still way over-priced.
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yeah, but it has an apple logo and is made of brushed metal. if you don't like to pay for design, run unix on a homebuilt PC in a square plastic case.
 
You're telling me they haven't recouped costs for designing the things yet? Or that we should always have to pay..
 
davepoint said:
You're telling me they haven't recouped costs for designing the things yet? Or that we should always have to pay..
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Of course they've recouped costs for designing products. My point is, if one product has superior design, there is high demand for it. Considering that the global economy is based on supply & demand, well designed products will always cost more than poorly designed products, unless the creator of the product with superior design chooses to discount their product to gain market share and popularity.
 
davepoint said:
the world sucks
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the world sucks because good things cost more than not quite as good things? as economically left as i am, i struggle to see your reasoning. in capitalism, there are free markets. in free markets, manufacturers price their own merchandise to be competitive with other manufacturers.
 
capitalism is hardly ideal, but given human nature what can you do.

It's a pity we can't live in a utopian society, and even more of a pity that we seem so very capable of a dystopian one
 
stoid said:
I ordered the 'new' 23 inch display within 30 minutes of the store being back online, and I just unpacked it. Having no frame of reference to compare to an 'old' 23 inch, I can say that it is ridiculously bright and clear, has no pink cast whatsoever, and from a first careful look over it, 0 dead pixels!

Hopefully no pink cast will develop (I've had it plugged in for about 10 minutes now.

I'm off to get one of those dead pixel checker programs...
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This is getting very messy.
Another purchaser of the 23" contacted AppleCare and reported this in Apple's Monitor Forum:

"I just talked to an AppleCare specialist and he said that this is still the old model based on my serial number. 2A6241XXXXX and manufactured June 2006"

"I called the apple store online on the phone and asked them how I would get the new one that is as the one they sell now. They said, it is guaranteed 100% that I would get the new one online, but through their retail stores, it is very likely to get the previous model, because they still have the old ones."

So both of us (mine made in May ( 2A6211XXXXX) and yours in June 2006 (2A6241XXXXX) have the old model with the following specs according to his report:
Brightness 270cd/m2
contrast ratio 400:1

So I guess no one can be sure of what they are getting, no matter how or where they buy it.
 
BenRoethig said:
Hey guys, when did we stop talking about displays and start the communism discussion?
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in posts 135-139. still, this is related to the price of the displays, so we're not totally off topic.
 
I went into my local Apple store yesterday and they denied that there were even upgrades? WTF? I guess they want to sell off there current stock?
 
gootz said:
I went into my local Apple store yesterday and they denied that there were even upgrades? WTF? I guess they want to sell off there current stock?
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New stock old stock?
From all the reports I've seen so far, no one at Apple knows for sure what they are selling.
Here's another report posted at Apple's Monitor forum dated August 10.

I spoke with Apple today to determine what the deal was with the recently upgraded brightness and contrast specs for the 20" and 23" Cinema Displays. They indicated that the change was actually (quietly?) made back in April 2006, and that any monitor recently sold directly by Apple should be one of the newer models.
 
Links said:
This is getting very messy.
Another purchaser of the 23" contacted AppleCare and reported this in Apple's Monitor Forum:

"I just talked to an AppleCare specialist and he said that this is still the old model based on my serial number. 2A6241XXXXX and manufactured June 2006"

"I called the apple store online on the phone and asked them how I would get the new one that is as the one they sell now. They said, it is guaranteed 100% that I would get the new one online, but through their retail stores, it is very likely to get the previous model, because they still have the old ones."

So both of us (mine made in May ( 2A6211XXXXX) and yours in June 2006 (2A6241XXXXX) have the old model with the following specs according to his report:
Brightness 270cd/m2
contrast ratio 400:1

So I guess no one can be sure of what they are getting, no matter how or where they buy it.
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Well, I sprung for a new 23" at the Apple Store in SF last Friday (along with a new Mac Pro!). I asked the salesman to find me one with the highest serial number, which was 2A6251xxxxx (also June 2006). FWIW, the display was set at its highest brightness setting and was just too bright--I've now got it set at about 25% and it looks terrific. No obvious dead pixels, no pink cast. I also purchased the AppleCare warranty, so I should be covered over the next 3 years.

Russell
 
I was looking at buying a 30" anyway - it was march when they updated those right? I don't think they got updated at wwdc did they?
 
I just bought a 30" from apple online and i doubt it's "really new" but i have no way of telling.

The box looked a little dusty but i didn't really care, it looks great.




davepoint said:
I was looking at buying a 30" anyway - it was march when they updated those right? I don't think they got updated at wwdc did they?
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I just bought the 23 inch several days ago. My serial is 2A6251XXXXXX and it shows up with a june 2006 production date. Like the earlier poster, it is very bright and I also turned it down a little. I also turned the color down to Thousands instead of Millions as a psychological trick for when i need it. Now after reading the pink hue replies (which i totally forgot about) I can't tell if i have a pinkish hue or if its my own paranoia.

1. Does anyone have a pic or example of the Pinkish hue?

2. Is there a way to test or tell which 23" model you have?l
 
There's going to be new ACDs soon or...

why?

Those dual optical slots in the mac pro, one of them's obviously for a Blue Ray / HD-DVD drive, both of which use HDCP content protection. HDCP isn't supported currently on the ACD.

I think this is probably the reason for no Blue Ray drive option on the mac pro not price as has been suggested. If you've got customers spending £1400+ on a graphics card I'm sure you can sell a Blue Ray drive for £600 - £700 They sell them here, so I'm sure Apple could get hold of them.

This is of course unless Apple's going to seize the opportunity for stealing the thunder from both HD-DVD and Blue Ray. The easiest method for delivering HD content to users is via the internet, Apple is in a perfect position to do so:

1. It has lots of customers running intel macs all of which support at least 720p in the proper 16:9 aspect ratio, this is a huge untapped market which already has the equipment to view HD content, especially in areas such as the UK where HDTV sales have been very slow and finding content is almost impossible.

2. It has iTunes.

3. The whole HDCP, HDMI, HDTV debacle with 1st gen investors in equipment unable to view content. Apple could have a field day with this one, even better than the jibes at ms.

4. it could avoid the HDCP content protection in favour of the itunes variant, thereby negating the need for new displays whilst providing that much needed ease of use to consumers, and satisfying the studios.

So that second optical slot could be rendered useless, there'd be no need for new displays, we'd see the widescreen ipod and Apple laughs all the way to the bank...
 
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