Well thats when the iphone should be announced, not released. i'm sure they have enough time to change minor details and put a new case on in time for mass production and release in June/ July.
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Well thats when the iphone should be announced, not released. i'm sure they have enough time to change minor details and put a new case on in time for mass production and release in June/ July.
It's reasonable to assume that the enclosure design was finished, potentially, months ago.
I think it is unreasonable, though, that they would send that final enclosure design out into the wild with an average engineer with only a normal iPhone case protecting it from prying eyes.
--mAc
New case seems like major detail to me, and doesn't Steve always have one he's using during the Keynote? I know details can change between now, the announcement and the final shipping but that seems like a lot to do in that time frame.
Seems expensive to have a dummy case, inside a case to test the internals of a phone in the wild but like I said I really don't know a lot about the manufacture and testing of electronics.
If it is to be released in June, then I seriously doubt there is any time at all for a case redesign. Even minor detail changes could result in huge technical hurdles to overcome. To change the case at this stage would probably require months of work by a number of different teams. Everything would have to be re-evaluated.
The phone could even be in mass production in the next few weeks.
--mAc
true but the case may have already been made, its just too expensive to make it for a select number of devices. IDK how much detail would be changed but, i could be wrong about this whole thing.
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Picking up a phone left on a stool by someone does not constitute theft. Better study them lawbooks again dude!
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Picking up a phone left on a stool by someone does not constitute theft. Better study them lawbooks again dude!
Expensive, maybe. Apple has a lot of cash and a lot of secrets to protect, though. I'm not sure how expensive it would be, but I bet that Apple has multiple prototype iPhone enclosures that they explored before settling on the final design. Any one of those could potentially be used as an enclosure on a software development mule.
The outer "case" that I was referring to was just the iPhone case (like a protective case) that anyone can buy to protect their iPhone.
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If you found a sack of money from a Brinks truck, your legally obligated to return it to them or a law enforcement official. If they refuse it(LOL) or if they don't claim it, then it's yours. The same should apply here especially since they know the owner of the phone.
Gizmodo is a thief; influenced by people who seek knowledge about apple new product. He is not doing service for anyone; other than spoil his image and harm other people. He described his action like a heroic. I believe Apple should suite him and make him as an example... The only benefit party from the leak would be google.
I don't know whether to be more depressed by the apparently widespread lack of any sense of morality or by the incidence of abject ignorance of the law.
No civilized society lacks laws that forbid a member from blithely appropriating the valuable property of another when there is no basis to reasonably believe that the true owner has intentionally discarded it. If for no other reason these laws exist because without them true owners would likely resort to violence to vindicate their property rights.
How anyone old enough to type comes to think the law imposes no responsibility to respect the rights or welfare of others, i.e., that no one is "his brother's keeper", beggars belief. Here's all anyone really needs to know: if you'd be ashamed to tell your mother how you behaved, there's a pretty good chance you've violated some law, and an even better chance that no decent person will want to have anything to do with you--other than, perhaps, wanting to beat you up.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
No civilized society lacks laws that forbid a member from blithely appropriating the valuable property of another when there is no basis to reasonably believe that the true owner has intentionally discarded it. If for no other reason these laws exist because without them true owners would likely resort to violence to vindicate their property rights.
How anyone old enough to type comes to think the law imposes no responsibility to respect the rights or welfare of others, i.e., that no one is "his brother's keeper", beggars belief. Here's all anyone really needs to know: if you'd be ashamed to tell your mother how you behaved, there's a pretty good chance you've violated some law, and an even better chance that no decent person will want to have anything to do with you--other than, perhaps, wanting to beat you up.
Now get the hell off my lawn.
That guy is an idiot!!
Firstly, the whole story does seem strange indeed. Especially now that Apple is "kindly" asking to return the device. Why not use the Location Feature? Why was it out in the open in the first place? Where has the phone been from the 18th of March? The whole month? And don't you think it's a bit weird that the device has surfaced a day after the corporate meeting?
Anyway thankyou sooo much Gizmodo, for posting the photos!!! I hate the design! It looks no better than some SonyEricssons. The screen is even smaller! Are you kidding me? Unless Apple comes out and announces that this is not RTM version, I'm happily switching to HTC and Android.
Secondly, I think Gizmodo had done nothing wrong with releasing this guy's name. What many of you have forgotten was: he was in a bar! He got so *drunk* that didn't notice the phone was missing. It was entirely his fault.
Firstly, the whole story does seem strange indeed. Especially now that Apple is "kindly" asking to return the device. Why not use the Location Feature? Why was it out in the open in the first place? Where has the phone been from the 18th of March? The whole month? And don't you think it's a bit weird that the device has surfaced a day after the corporate meeting?
Anyway thankyou sooo much Gizmodo, for posting the photos!!! I hate the design! It looks no better than some SonyEricssons. The screen is even smaller! Are you kidding me? Unless Apple comes out and announces that this is not RTM version, I'm happily switching to HTC and Android.
Secondly, I think Gizmodo had done nothing wrong with releasing this guy's name. What many of you have forgotten was: he was in a bar! He got so *drunk* that didn't notice the phone was missing. It was entirely his fault.
Just a note to all those that feel Gray would not have had priviledge to a hardware prototype... Gray is (was) a software engineer for the baseband hardware, the non-radio electronics of the phone. From his linkedin:
[Line references] added by me. First, third, and fourth lines all point to needing the latest prototypes (former industry experience here). I guess you could say his job responsibilities have changed, but it's only been a year and a half since he started at Apple.
[Line references] added by me. First, third, and fourth lines all point to needing the latest prototypes (former industry experience here). I guess you could say his job responsibilities have changed, but it's only been a year and a half since he started at Apple.
Mind you, the device is at LEAST two months old (judging by the twitpic post date) I agree that this PROBABLY is the final design, or if not, extremely close to it. Basically any redesign of the case to make it more curved or whatever would no doubt require a redesign of the internals as well and it seems a little late for that.
I recently de-activated ad blocking for most sites after that Ars Technica article. Well, now Gizmodo definitely gets a place on the blacklist. I won't read them on purpose anymore, but a link might take me there; and I don't feel like generating a dime of income for them even by accident. :-(
Was it really "lost" in a bar?
It sounds to me like another great Apple marketing idea.
Much more story than the usual "leaks".
It sounds to me like another great Apple marketing idea.
Much more story than the usual "leaks".
One of the running jokes I have heard that there is a small hill in the center courtyard of the Apple Infinite Loop complex nicked "Crucifixion Hill" for those that really screw up.
Bravo Apple!
Now this story/"leak" is a twisted one. No matter what one will believe, Apple can only gain from this story. Bravo again!
I now can only hope for the new iPhone to actually be close to this design, as it looks pretty good for my taste.
Now this story/"leak" is a twisted one. No matter what one will believe, Apple can only gain from this story. Bravo again!
I now can only hope for the new iPhone to actually be close to this design, as it looks pretty good for my taste.
Um yes it does. Try opening a law book dude. CA law clearly defines what he did as theft. Black and white, in those terms, no question.
Nothing illegal was done here. Ha ha ha, you Apple stans are trying so hard. People make mistakes, and this Apple employee probably just made a mistake... probably had a couple of beers.
And the guy who had the phone after retrieving it did not still anything. And Gizmodo is not doing anything illegal.
And the guy who had the phone after retrieving it did not still anything. And Gizmodo is not doing anything illegal.
Actually thats not true in this case. The item was misplaced. If a sack of money falls out of a truck its lost. If someone set an envelope full of hundreds down on the counter of a store its misplaced. The finder of a misplaced item cannot make a legal claim to the item. Even if the owner is never found only the owner of place where it was found can make a claim. If its lost or abandoned the finder can make a claim but not for misplaced items.
Unless your in Vegas and you find a chip on the floor. Don't even think about it, its the casino's property and you WILL go to jail!
The law would disagree with you. It isn't something you can just chuckle away because you don't think anything wrong was done. I would repost the pertinent parts of California law that detail the illegalities, but a simple search would provide those. Plus you don't seem too interested in facts, just calling people stans.
Seriously dude, get a new word.
edit: Here is the pertinent part of California law dealing with finding property.
And the part dealing with receiving stolen goods.
So if your in line at the supermarket and the guy in front of you forgets his wallet on the counter and you pocket it and walk away thats OK huh. That is the exact situation here.
PS gibbz will you adopt me? You have such nice toys!