well......there goes the lovely apple stock. I can already see it plumetting - hopefully Apple can pull out a win on this one...
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Cisco Suing Apple For iPhone Trademark Infringement
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They'll settle out of court and this will be a non-issue.
Unless Apple decides to switch to my personal name of choice:
The MacPhone.
I think it would really help switch more iPhone owners to the Mac... they'd somehow psychologically think that they already sorta kinda have a Mac-type thing, so why not go for a Mac computer?
Unless Apple decides to switch to my personal name of choice:
The MacPhone.
I think it would really help switch more iPhone owners to the Mac... they'd somehow psychologically think that they already sorta kinda have a Mac-type thing, so why not go for a Mac computer?
Apple hasn't actually released the iPhone have they? So I doubt it would be a big deal to change the name before it ships, but I don't know what issues could could come up due to the fact that they used the name in their keynote and on their webpage.
By the way, why is the TV thing called Apple TV not iTV? Could the iPhone become the Apple Phone?
By the way, why is the TV thing called Apple TV not iTV? Could the iPhone become the Apple Phone?
"Apple Phone"
I see this as taking the same trajectory as the iTV. I think when the phone actually launches, it will just be called "Apple Phone" and the branding will just be the Apple logo with the word "Phone" next to it.
It makes sense, if you think about it. Apple is saying that they are reinventing the mobile phone, so why not have you branding just be "Phone" plus the Apple logo?
I see this as taking the same trajectory as the iTV. I think when the phone actually launches, it will just be called "Apple Phone" and the branding will just be the Apple logo with the word "Phone" next to it.
It makes sense, if you think about it. Apple is saying that they are reinventing the mobile phone, so why not have you branding just be "Phone" plus the Apple logo?
I was expecting Apple to call it the Apple phone (using the logo) after they announce itv's new name. Especially since the real iphone was just released last month. If they don't make a deal, that's my guess of the name or possibly mac phone.
Edit: Looks like a was 3rd to post the same thing.
Edit: Looks like a was 3rd to post the same thing.
Well given iTV became Apple TV
Let iPhone become, Apple Phone. or iPod + phone.
Shrug. They have a few months before the product ships and all to figure it out. Though I guess they had to announce the product yesterday else they would have been creamed by the crowds let alone the analysts for coming out with Apple TV and nothing else.
Mind you, the "Apple TV" name doesn't work for me, good way to get the buyers confused....
A: i bought an Apple TV over the weekend...
B: really? how big of a screen does it have? 50 inches?
A: no screen...
B: i thought you said you bought a tv?
A: i did but it is just the box that connects to a tv...
B: so you bought a box that is called a tv that you have to connect to a tv to use?
A: yes...
B: thats stupid.
I can't think of a better name for it right now, but the current name is pretty misleading.
Let iPhone become, Apple Phone. or iPod + phone.
Shrug. They have a few months before the product ships and all to figure it out. Though I guess they had to announce the product yesterday else they would have been creamed by the crowds let alone the analysts for coming out with Apple TV and nothing else.
Mind you, the "Apple TV" name doesn't work for me, good way to get the buyers confused....
A: i bought an Apple TV over the weekend...
B: really? how big of a screen does it have? 50 inches?
A: no screen...
B: i thought you said you bought a tv?
A: i did but it is just the box that connects to a tv...
B: so you bought a box that is called a tv that you have to connect to a tv to use?
A: yes...
B: thats stupid.
I can't think of a better name for it right now, but the current name is pretty misleading.
It almost sounds like Apple was strung along by Cisco. One day they're saying "we're very close to a deal", and the next day (the day right after the release) Cisco is saying "we changed our minds, you can't have it anymore."
Was this possibly a publicity stunt by cisco to get free advertising for their iPhone (because no doubt, this story will be all over the news).
Was this possibly a publicity stunt by cisco to get free advertising for their iPhone (because no doubt, this story will be all over the news).
Typical. I was very surprised to see that name still being used at the Keynote after that iPhone release before xmas.
They'll have to put that price up to 599 and 699 and increase the tie in to 3 years now
They'll have to put that price up to 599 and 699 and increase the tie in to 3 years now
Umm it has wifi as the fastest form of communication in and out. What's not internet about that?
Update to the story
Note: While Cisco has the US trademark for "iPhone," Apple does have the trademark for "iPhone" in some other countries.
Note: While Cisco has the US trademark for "iPhone," Apple does have the trademark for "iPhone" in some other countries.
Those who think Apple was stupid
to assume the iPhone name without getting Cisco's blessing are missing the point.
As long as this controversy goes on, Apple will be getting daily free publicity for the iPhone or whatever they are going to call it. Marketing people understand a fact that rational, logical people can simply not grasp: there's no such thing as bad publicity.
As a highly intelligent person, when I hear bad things about a company, I avoid their products. Ordinary people hear company names, but the negative information slowly fades and only the name remains. When that person sees a product from that company, they feel familiar with it, thus making a sale more probable.
Anyways, iAnything is a rip-off of iMac, so, in reality, Apple really owns all of those names and reserves the right to use them whenever it wants.
Some camera company made a camera called the *ist. Anyone naming their product the *ster, or the *meister is just waiting to get screwed. Same thing with Cisco.
to assume the iPhone name without getting Cisco's blessing are missing the point.
As long as this controversy goes on, Apple will be getting daily free publicity for the iPhone or whatever they are going to call it. Marketing people understand a fact that rational, logical people can simply not grasp: there's no such thing as bad publicity.
As a highly intelligent person, when I hear bad things about a company, I avoid their products. Ordinary people hear company names, but the negative information slowly fades and only the name remains. When that person sees a product from that company, they feel familiar with it, thus making a sale more probable.
Anyways, iAnything is a rip-off of iMac, so, in reality, Apple really owns all of those names and reserves the right to use them whenever it wants.
Some camera company made a camera called the *ist. Anyone naming their product the *ster, or the *meister is just waiting to get screwed. Same thing with Cisco.
They might just do that- in fact, this could just be posturing. If Cisco did not take action against Apple, it could be viewed as abandoning their trademark. In other words if they don't pursue Apple- then they could loose their right to ever pursue the trademark- of course I'm not a lawyer, I only play one on the forums....
They saw it coming, they were reportedly in the middle of discussions as of yesterday. They goofed and went public before settling the deal.
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Nope.
A trademark has to do whith public perception. While Cisco has a registered trademark for iPhone in ONE jurisdiction worldwide, Apple has it in many others.
Furthermore PUBLIC perception of the name of Apple's cellphone product BEFORE the announcement was that it would be called "iPhone."
This is not a cut and dried claim by Cisco.
One could claim there is a "Cisco iPhone" and also an "Apple iPhone", both of which are quite different and differentiated in the market.
This is a negotiation tactic by both sides. Obviously Cisco did something akin to domain name squatting on this issue.
Fine.
Just ask less and settle it.
Rocketman
I wish I had come up with this idea, but TelePort I think sounds pretty awesome, I ordered AppleTV anyway
I too am growing tired of the "i"
perhaps they could devise a new naming scheme
i - for applications if they must
Apple - for devices (minus the iPod of course)
Mac - For computers
makes sense to me
Looks like it's Asia and the UK first and the US to follow in 2008 when they've sorted the legal mess out over the US ownership then.
Never mind eh?
It is supposed to be an internet device. We want it to be an internet device. We want VoIP in addition to GSM. We want internet based syncing, shareing, etc...
iPhone is the perfect name but then it is the perfect name for Cisco's phone too.