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It's so heart warming to see the faithful manning the ramparts.

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My only gripe is that they need to invest more in services. Not just money and hardware, but people too. Stop half-assing it. And if they're not going to whole-ass it, they should at least give us API hooks in iOS 7 to replace their somewhat inferior services.
The problem is not their services, you have a lot of alternatives already, but the way they operate. The amount of money they have already piled up is a total waste and they don´t seem to have any idea how to spend it. I don´t get it at all. There´s so much technology or companies that develop great solutions that would perfectly fit into Apple´s already very well built infrastructure. But they don´t, because they are in some kind of tunnel vision.

You are right though, they need a bigger workforce and invest silly amounts on R&D.
 
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I am an economics student and actually a lot of it is just manipulation on the part of analysts. These guys are just smartasses.

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Actually apple could just use the same plastic HTC uses, it feels solid and has a great look.


Yeah because thats really working well for HTC... :rolleyes:
 
Sure it seems like a lot of money to you but the only trend that's okay in business is UP!
This is trending down. Has been and looks like it will continue. The worst kind of trend.

The trend is still up. Just not as steep as it used to be. Either way, the market has factored this in and then some so I don't expect the stock to fall much further.
 
You guys had no problem believing analysts like munster who gave unrealistic expectations of aapl reaching $1000+ by the end of last year, but when an analysts prediction doesn't exite you you call them dirty crazy crooks and bury your heads in the sand. You fanboys are strange people anyways.

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The trend is still up. Just not as steep as it used to be. Either way, the market has factored this in and then some so I don't expect the stock to fall much further.

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I'm not sure I'd call a watch "Crazy Stuff".
Nothing suggests so far it will sell well (If they are even working on a release this year sometime.) Certainly not even close to what the iPhone did.
Would you pay $200-$300 to strap a 2011 Nano to your wrist so you don't have to reach into your pocket quite as much?


And once again, Apple will post a record breaking quarter. These "analysts" are trying to drive down prices so that they can get some cheap Apple stock. They're upset they didn't buy in 2008.

Remember the calm before the storm that was iPhone? Apple is working on some crazy stuff right now and they'll only release it when it's ready to ship. If you really think they're sitting on their hands then you really don't understand anything about the company.

Apple needs to remain non-reactionary. Just keep building great products and the money will follow.

My only gripe is that they need to invest more in services. Not just money and hardware, but people too. Stop half-assing it. And if they're not going to whole-ass it, they should at least give us API hooks in iOS 7 to replace their somewhat inferior services.
 
You know that some of these guys actually know their stuff..
Been following analysts predictions and comments for some time now. I'd be interested in your list of those who are on the mark. And I'm talking about the "pro" analysts who get the media's attention as harbingers of the future of Apple and the future success of unknown products and plans.
 
I don't get all this hatred toward plastic cases. The :apple:TV has a plastic case. So does the AirPort Express and the Time Capsule. And so did the iPhone 3GS.

I hate stainless steel, aluminium and glass cases/backs. The iPhone 3GS is still the best hand-fitting iPhone ever released. Our hands are not flat with sharp corners. :rolleyes:

Yeah, that phone had a great hand fit! Are 3GS's for sale anywhere? I live in Panama and I can't see LTE coming anytime soon. While I would miss some of the functionality of features found in OSes no longer support by the hardware, for talk n text n surf it'd be the bomb.
 
Here we go again.
So ... the stock may tank, not because Apple may (or may not) miss their target by a meager 1.16%, but because of nebulous analyst predictions.
 
Less profit = less revenue = less investors = lower stock price

Pretty much everything is wrong with this formula. Less revenue might result in less profit, but not necessarily if the margins are up. If the margins are down, even more revenue might result in less profit. Also, the number of investors never actually changes, at least not in the way you imply.

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Here we go again.
So ... the stock may tank, not because Apple may (or may not) miss their target by a meager 1.16%, but because of nebulous analyst predictions.

If this analyst is right, it would be an unmitigated disaster. Companies missing their own guidance is always a disaster. Apple missing would be even worse, as they are known to guide very conservatively.
 
Now is a good time to buy. If they do miss and it tanks, even better time to buy. If I had a chunk of money available, I'd buy 10k now, incase the analysts are wrong and it's a record quarter, but if they're right and it tanks, I'd have another 20k or more to throw in there. Don't be pissed when it drops, just buy more! history repeats itself :cool:
 
It's a system that's made to fail. Where we put more emphasis on growth than profits, blowing air into a finite balloon until it bursts. The market is back at it's highest point not because the economy is good but because again they are artificially manipulating it by forcing businesses to higher points than they can sustain themselves. The market works on the same principal as a structure made of playing cards. Build something to an unstable point (making a profit the whole way) and bailing before it comes tumbling down.
 
I would recommend you stay well clear of the stock market.


Now is a good time to buy. If they do miss and it tanks, even better time to buy. If I had a chunk of money available, I'd buy 10k now, incase the analysts are wrong and it's a record quarter, but if they're right and it tanks, I'd have another 20k or more to throw in there. Don't be pissed when it drops, just buy more! history repeats itself :cool:


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That would be true if buying trends didn't constantly fluctuate (many factors) What the market will bare is ever changing.
Yes there is always a ceiling and floor but they aren't stationary.

It's a system that's made to fail. Where we put more emphasis on growth than profits, blowing air into a finite balloon until it bursts. The market is back at it's highest point not because the economy is good but because again they are artificially manipulating it by forcing businesses to higher points than they can sustain themselves. The market works on the same principal as a structure made of playing cards. Build something to an unstable point (making a profit the whole way) and bailing before it comes tumbling down.
 
I find these reports to be good news. What often happens to Apple is that the analysts start ratcheting up the expectations well beyond Apple's guidance. When the numbers come out exceeding that guidance, they are still not enough. If the beat guidance trend holds, and the expectations are low, this may mean a big boost for the stock.
 
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